Fender Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea. The rep is as I said. Murray trips up and Von taps him. He doesn't sack him in a traditional sense. You are talking nonsense. Haven't listened to Joe yet this week. I will. I respect his opinion. But unless he shows me stuff I missed in the game I disagree with him on Von. He was meh. He clearly caused that sack and for you to not give credit shows you’re too emotionaly invested 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Against Kyler Murray makes it even more impressive. Against a non-mobile QB he would’ve netted a couple more. Things are looking up. A dominant D-line can really mask a lot of deficiencies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Some fans expected way to much last year when he was coming off an ACL tear. Those take a full year before you start getting up to speed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 9 minutes ago, Fender said: He clearly caused that sack and for you to not give credit shows you’re too emotionaly invested I promise you I am not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea. The rep is as I said. Murray trips up and Von taps him. He doesn't sack him in a traditional sense. You are talking nonsense. Haven't listened to Joe yet this week. I will. I respect his opinion. But unless he shows me stuff I missed in the game I disagree with him on Von. He was meh. Dude it’s not like you to be such a wan- - - about a player, lol, you sound like Bado on a rant. Nuthin but luv but really? The player through his effort capitalizes on an opportunity, and you discount that…, 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Don Otreply said: Dude it’s not like you to be such a wan- - - about a player, lol, you sound like Bado on a rant. Nuthin but luv but really? The player through his effort capitalizes on an opportunity, and you discount that…, I'm not trying to be that at all. I'm just saying it as a I see it. He did fine on the play but the sack was a bit of a freebie. It's like when Ed Oliver got his first career sack he got it on a flea flicker and said "yea I don't really count that one." It's equally like while I appreciate Groot's 3 sacks for the day the one he gets for chasing Murray out a yard shy is nice and I appreciate the effort but it doesn't tell me much about the pass rush in the way the other two do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'm not trying to be that at all. I'm just saying it as a I see it. He did fine on the play but the sack was a bit of a freebie. It's like when Ed Oliver got his first career sack he got it on a flea flicker and said "yea I don't really count that one." It's equally like while I appreciate Groot's 3 sacks for the day the one he gets for chasing Murray out a yard shy is nice and I appreciate the effort but it doesn't tell me much about the pass rush in the way the other two do. 9 more sacks to my accurate prediction. Yeah the sack was a gimme sack for sure. But he got great push on the RT and walked him back. He was part of the pressure. He moved better yesterday than he did all year last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, Sargent Hulka said: Why was Epenesa lined up over center on that scheme? He got no penetration, and actually allowed for Oliver. to be double-teamed. Is this Babich being "clever"? probably something to do with Murray being 5'9" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Avisan Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Weird. Doesn't Brian know that Ed Oliver is actually the one who caused the sack here? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: 9 more sacks to my accurate prediction. Yeah the sack was a gimme sack for sure. But he got great push on the RT and walked him back. He was part of the pressure. He moved better yesterday than he did all year last year. I agree with this, and if he gets 9 more sacks this year I'll be happy to eat crow. I just don't think there was anything there yesterday to support a victory lap. Was there some encouragement compared to last year? Sure. Was this a "Von is back" performance? Not even close and that 'sack' is definitely not evidence of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 16 minutes ago, Avisan said: Weird. Doesn't Brian know that Ed Oliver is actually the one who caused the sack here? Von walked Beechum right into Murray. That’s where the first pressure came from. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: invisible agreed he an Oliver were really non factors. This will need to improve. AJE is a streaky player though... he needs to up his consistency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Otreply Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 59 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'm not trying to be that at all. I'm just saying it as a I see it. He did fine on the play but the sack was a bit of a freebie. It's like when Ed Oliver got his first career sack he got it on a flea flicker and said "yea I don't really count that one." It's equally like while I appreciate Groot's 3 sacks for the day the one he gets for chasing Murray out a yard shy is nice and I appreciate the effort but it doesn't tell me much about the pass rush in the way the other two do. I can accept you view, although I like my spin better… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Not that a player like Von needs confidence but Sunday definitely should boost that for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I was happy to see him get involved- proving any doubters wrong will require consistency! IF and i mean a big IF because Im not expecting it - if he can keep this up and become force to gameplan around again - we could just be in a nice spot on defense. Pass rush creates more mistake for Offenses - more INT's this year potentially for our back end guys. Groot showing promise to be a double digit sack monster along with Ed Oliver (i think he will get back to form, not sure where he was sunday, but game one - he will have his ears pinned back against the dol;hins i think). I like it. Pressure with the front four will help this defense incredibly - thats all im asking for. He has also definitely groomed and helped Groot. You see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, foreboding said: Why does AJ equal espn? What do you see in his last name? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Uhhhh... no. Was that a dream you had? Here's the rep Joe Marino did his All-22 review today... he said this might have been his favorite game from Von Miller as a Bill. Boy... You're batting 1000 well if JOE MARINO says so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Murray fall down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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