colin Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 im calling his floor on snaps this post season at 41.3% Quote
Long Suffering Fan Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Yes. When he's on the field he's clearly making an impact. Obviously. You're being stubborn if you don't think so. He played 14 snaps against the Jets. In those 14 snaps he had a sack, a QB hit, and one TFL between his 2 tackles. Against Kansas City in the biggest game of the season he did the exact same thing. He's played 35% of snaps this season and in the snaps he's actually on the field you can feel his impact in almost every game he's played. He's obviously not living up to his Contract and isn't Prime Von Miller, but he's MUCH more impactful than you insisted he would be in the offseason. 2 hours ago, Shaw66 said: After his sack he was breathing heavily for several minutes on the bench. Not a good sign. At this point, I consider him a powerplay specialist. Imagine a forward that only played 5-6 minutes a night, but was on the first line powerplay unit. His total stat numbers will never compare to your best first liners. He is not out there enough so the total stats will look bad and the contract will look bad, but a guy that scores on the powerplay can win you a playoff series. If we win the Superbowl and Von has 3 sacks and a bunch of pressures in the playoffs while playing 15 snaps a game...he'll be a great signing. 3 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 16 minutes ago, Long Suffering Fan said: At this point, I consider him a powerplay specialist. Imagine a forward that only played 5-6 minutes a night, but was on the first line powerplay unit. His total stat numbers will never compare to your best first liners. He is not out there enough so the total stats will look bad and the contract will look bad, but a guy that scores on the powerplay can win you a playoff series. If we win the Superbowl and Von has 3 sacks and a bunch of pressures in the playoffs while playing 15 snaps a game...he'll be a great signing. Absolutely but I don’t see anything that suggests that is going to happen. If so it’s an amazing signing!!! Quote
Shaw66 Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 35 minutes ago, Long Suffering Fan said: If we win the Superbowl and Von has 3 sacks and a bunch of pressures in the playoffs while playing 15 snaps a game...he'll be a great signing. I agree. Knock Mahomes on his butt once or twice on the way to a win in the AFC championship game - that's why Beane signed him. The plan was knock Mahomes on his butt year after year, but the knee injury took him out for the first two seasons of what was essentially a three-year deal. Third time's the charm, and all that. 2 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Nice sack by Von Sunday. I hope he's been holding back what's coming in the playoffs. Be a difference maker there. That's why we signed him. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 28 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Nice sack by Von Sunday. I hope he's been holding back what's coming in the playoffs. Be a difference maker there. That's why we signed him. I'd really like to see some 3rd downs where AJ is on one side and we stack Von behind/next to Rousseau on the other I see that as a serious concern for opposing OL's 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 On 12/23/2024 at 10:26 PM, GunnerBill said: We agreed on 6 sacks as the metric. He needs 2 in the final 2 games to even get to that pretty low bar. You won't be getting many victory laps. EDIT: and I am completely objective on it. See the thread @Savage started questioning his game Sunday. I defended Von. He played well v New England. I'd say one of his 3 best games of the year with Miami road and Indy. I am just a truth teller on this topic rather than someone clinging to a narrative. On 12/30/2024 at 10:29 PM, GunnerBill said: Why do I? I think I have been right. Good rush on Sunday though. I am not against giving him credit where it is due. But in terms of real impact on the season... has he made any? He still has a chance to do so in the playoffs. Here's hoping. Feel free to admit you were wrong anytime. Happens to everyone. Von wildly outplayed your offseason expectations. It's okay to just state the truth when it's so blatantly obvious. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 12/31/2024 at 2:18 PM, colin said: im calling his floor on snaps this post season at 41.3% It's going to be close to 70% in the playoffs dude 2 Quote
RochesterLifer Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 12/31/2024 at 1:18 PM, colin said: im calling his floor on snaps this post season at 41.3% Pure hype. There’s no way he surpasses 40.75. 😉 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Von for 3 sacks against his long time team (Pegula please offer cash hand pay incentives for Von) Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Feel free to admit you were wrong anytime. Happens to everyone. Von wildly outplayed your offseason expectations. It's okay to just state the truth when it's so blatantly obvious. He got six. That was my metric for having some impact. So sure, I was wrong. I'm not sure about "wildly outplayed" but he did have some impact. I'm not sure how much we take from another slightly fortuitous sack in a meaningless week 17 game, but he did beat his man around the edge and create a pressure and so fair's fair. He met the mark I gave him very little chance of making. That said, I still don't think he has really had a major impact on the season. Of his six sacks, week 1 v Arizona and the one vs Kansas City came at critical moments. Otherwise it is one in a meaningless game and three in blowouts, but I accept I said he wouldn't get six and he did. Congratulations to Von. I'm kind of happy he earned his incentive because despite me not being mad keen on having him on the roster the pay cut he took with a chance to earn some back was magnanimous of him and a team first move. I said in the week I thought given that it would be unfair for the Bills to sit him totally today and I'm glad they didn't. For me to completely eat my words on Von he will need to make some impact in the post season, if he does that, all the struggles, and the disappearing acts are forgiven. 10 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: It's going to be close to 70% in the playoffs dude There is no WAY Von plays 70%. Before today Groot was at 70%. That is our top usage for a DL. Now might he get first dips opposite Groot and be around AJE's regular season mark of 57/58%? Sure. But that is the ceiling. Edited January 6 by GunnerBill 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He got six. That was my metric for having some impact. So sure, I was wrong. I'm not sure about "wildly outplayed" but he did have some impact. I'm not sure how much we take from another slightly fortuitous sack in a meaningless week 17 game, but he did beat his man around the edge and create a pressure and so fair's fair. He met the mark I gave him very little chance of making. That said, I still don't think he has really had a major impact on the season. Of his five six sacks, week 1 v Arizona and the one vs Kansas City came at critical moments. Otherwise it is one in a meaningless game and three in blowouts, but I accept I said he wouldn't get six and he did. Congratulations to Von. I'm kind of happy he earned his incentive because despite me not being mad keen on having him on the roster the pay cut he took with a chance to earn some back was magnanimous of him and a team first move. I said in the week I thought given that it would be unfair for the Bills to sit him totally today and I'm glad they didn't. For me to completely eat my words on Von he will need to make some impact in the post season, if he does that, all the struggles, and the disappearing acts are forgiven. There is no WAY Von plays 70%. Before today Groot was at 70%. That is our top usage for a DL. Now might he get first dips opposite Groot and be around AJE's regular season mark of 57/58%? Sure. But that is the ceiling. In Vons playoff run with the rams he played 59% 75% 77% 84% in the super bowl Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said: In Vons playoff run with the rams he played 59% 75% 77% 84% in the super bowl Yes. But the Bills are not the Rams. We rotate linemen more than they do. I still think Groot and Ed will play the most. I'd put them around 70/75%. If Von is in that 55-60% range then it means he has gone from situational rusher only to starter. I think that is the realistic progression in usage. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 The way Von has flashed the last few games he should be playing around 60% of the snaps in the Wild Card 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 So happy for Von!!!! He totally deserves it! Great signing! 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The way Von has flashed the last few games he should be playing around 60% of the snaps in the Wild Card I think teams would target him in the run game. I would run right at him and wear him out. I think he is best used as a situational pass rusher, which could be super valuable. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think teams would target him in the run game. I would run right at him and wear him out. I think he is best used as a situational pass rusher, which could be super valuable. Let them. Von has been really good against the run when he's been other field this year. And throughout his career he's been excellent. Quote
Simon Posted January 6 Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yes. But the Bills are not the Rams. We rotate linemen more than they do. I still think Groot and Ed will play the most. I'd put them around 70/75% Ed actually racked up an 80% in the playoff game vs the Chiefs last year. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Simon said: Ed actually racked up an 80% in the playoff game vs the Chiefs last year. He did, 70% v Pitt and 80% vs KC. Highly unusual for the Bills and I definitely don't see them asking Von to go from where he has been to that and it wouldn't be smart to do so. Quote
Simon Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just now, GunnerBill said: He did, 70% v Pitt and 80% vs KC. Highly unusual for the Bills and I definitely don't see them asking Von to go from where he has been to that and it wouldn't be smart to do so. I don't either, just remember being shocked by the number at the time. Quote
colin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 58 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: It's going to be close to 70% in the playoffs dude Still makes my bet correct Quote
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