Bruffalo Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, DCofNC said: The Browns are going to have to blow it up and start over. You could see Garrett was visibly disgusted already in the first game of the year. When the best player and leader in your team is having to be talked off the ledge on the sideline before the end of the first game, it’s going to be trouble. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear Garrett beat the crap out of Watson and left him behind a dumpster by week 8. The contract restructure makes it all the more curious, they are going to be so screwed, they can’t do anything. They might as well unload the talent they have for picks, release Watson and start over if they can’t turn it around this year. I wouldn't mind a trade for Amari Cooper if there was a fire sale on Browns talent... Just saying. 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Udubalum07 said: I just went to look at his contract and Spotrac has him with a 72 million dollar hit the next two years and a void year of 26 million the following year. It is all fully guaranteed. That might be the worst contract in NFL history. It is right up there with Russell Wilson and the Broncos. 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Worst than Russ in Denver? Maybe not when he was under Hackett but he actually played OK under Payton so I guess Watson would be worse. He has looked terrible no matter who the OC is. Call Old Man Flacco back or trade for Jacoby Brisket again. Wilson was worth a shot. Watson was never as good as Wilson but for a single season years ago. Quote
Low Positive Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: 😬 Well, when you put it like that.... For real, that is even worse than it looked from the broadcast angle. 1 Quote
Danger Mouse Posted September 9 Posted September 9 I will never be able to describe how much I disliked Dorsey's strategies. Just horrible. Quote
Malazan Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Bruffalo said: I wouldn't mind a trade for Amari Cooper if there was a fire sale on Browns talent... Just saying. I'd rather Myles Garret 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted September 9 Posted September 9 Just now, Malazan said: I'd rather Myles Garret I'm just assuming he'd be cost prohibitive, but yeah obviously that's a game changer. Quote
No_Matter_What Posted September 9 Posted September 9 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: 😬 I just saw this elsewhere and came to post it. Brutal. Quote
Mister Defense Posted September 10 Author Posted September 10 18 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: For most people, yes. But most people didn’t get $230 million dollars to help forget what people say or think. If someone came up to me right now and said “Here’s $230 million, all guaranteed, but people are going to talk crap about you.” I’d sign the paper. Who cares what people think? I now have enough money to live comfortably forever and never even need to concern myself with that crap. His reputation was already ruined in the public eye. Even if he wins people will hate him. Might as well get paid and flip the world the bird when you head home in your super car to your mansion and sleep on your piles of money. Come on, Watson was offered a huge guaranteed contract. Most thought it was a bad move by the Browns, an illogical one--he was likely not going to get many offers, and even fewer guaranteed offers, and he had been out of the game for long time. Who would not take that kind of unique offer? Beyond your opinion of why he is not successful now, what makes you think that, what details or facts are there to support your point? Have you read or heard things about his work habits and such? I say basic human nature tells us he would want to be successful, no matter the money he is earning. He looks done, but I don't think it is because he threw in the towel so he can relax and enjoy his riches. Quote
Mister Defense Posted September 10 Author Posted September 10 11 hours ago, Bruffalo said: I wouldn't mind a trade for Amari Cooper if there was a fire sale on Browns talent... Just saying. This, 100%. Fits with the Bills and the perfect player to add to this young, inexperienced receiver corps. Reminds me of a bigger, faster Cole Beasley, so could be a final piece of the offensive puzzle. Quote
Mister Defense Posted September 10 Author Posted September 10 21 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Watson is terrible The O-line is injured Bill Callahan left to coach with his kid Chubb is still out Dallas D is good I'm not one to defend Dorsey, but there are several much more relevant reasons the Browns struggled than it was Dorrsey's fault. But the offense... They looked like the Bills last year at the start of many games, like they didn't know what they were doing. Unprepared for the game. It's just that the Bills had Allen. We'll see how good Dallas' defense is, but they did look different, more physical, more disciplined, but also playing looser. But it was against one of the worst offenses in the NFL. We'll see. If 10 hours ago, Danger Mouse said: I will never be able to describe how much I disliked Dorsey's strategies. Just horrible. What do you mean? Quote
Mister Defense Posted September 10 Author Posted September 10 7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: I just saw this elsewhere and came to post it. Brutal. Yes. As it indicates I can still become an NFL quarterback! I can do that, throw like that. So those saying the Dallas defense was great, and I agree, watch this video. Their defense will have to wait until next week to earn some luv. Derek Carr is a much better quarterback obviously, so an actual test for the girls. The Saints may be the better team. Quote
NoSaint Posted September 10 Posted September 10 On 9/8/2024 at 7:43 PM, Freddie's Dead said: Not Dorsey's fault that he's saddled with POShaun Watson, a cancer even if he was playing well, which he ain't. Karma is a 200 lb. female St. Bernard POShaun, except this dog won't be making you any martinis. isn’t it exactly Dorsey’s fault for choosing the job Quote
Mister Defense Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 (edited) Update: Dorsey doing his thing in Cleveland, of course. 6 weeks into the season: --Last in the league in yards gained. --30th in points scored per game --27th in rushing yards per game And ike I said would happen back on September 8, after watching their first game, they have not progressed, but have regressed. Just like the Bills did under dorsey, but with no star quarterback there to sometimes pick up the pieces. But I was wrong in my other prediction: I think--dorsey will not make it to Halloween. He may not be officially fired by then (again, and in the middle of the season, the year after he was fired in the middle of the season) as it would likely end whatever is left of his career permanently. But he will not be handling any coordinator duties by then. And after this fiasco, I now doubt they would trust him with the players' Gatorade either. Ticket taker? Parking lot attendant? Just a few of the jobs he could likely do competently in an NFL stadium if properly trained and very closely supervised. And if Stefanski is the one who, inexplicably, wanted this guy as his OC, play calling or not, he will be fired too. Edited October 12 by Mister Defense Quote
Livinginthepast Posted October 12 Posted October 12 I remember being amazed as a teen watching the NFL in the 80s how it appeared that so many bad head coaches got 2nd chances in the league after catastrophically failing in a city. Then they would go on to fail spectacularly in a new city soon after. Rich Kotite for the Eagles and Jets comes to mind as my favorite example. But this also happens with coordinators as well. Dorsey had Josh Allen and huge depth of surrounding talent at his disposal and managed to neuter of all them. How could the Browns take a look at his body of work and come to the conclusion that he was the guy to turn around the franchise and work with the resurrection of Watson? Just insane. Quote
Bangarang Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Yall killing Dorsey even though Stefanski runs the offense. Dorsey is OC in title only. 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 12 Posted October 12 4 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: I remember being amazed as a teen watching the NFL in the 80s how it appeared that so many bad head coaches got 2nd chances in the league after catastrophically failing in a city. Then they would go on to fail spectacularly in a new city soon after. Rich Kotite for the Eagles and Jets comes to mind as my favorite example. But this also happens with coordinators as well. Dorsey had Josh Allen and huge depth of surrounding talent at his disposal and managed to neuter of all them. How could the Browns take a look at his body of work and come to the conclusion that he was the guy to turn around the franchise and work with the resurrection of Watson? Just insane. Probably no one else wanted the job. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted October 12 Posted October 12 20 minutes ago, Doc said: Probably no one else wanted the job. What’s wild is they fired AVP, who helped get Joe Flacco to the playoffs 1 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted October 12 Posted October 12 3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: What’s wild is they fired AVP, who helped get Joe Flacco to the playoffs would AVP be an upgrade over the Brady of the last two weeks? Quote
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