Simon Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Yep he's our #1 WR. All the offseason talk was about slots and TEs, but ultimately Josh Allen's offense will always run through the boundary. Wowzers. Between Coleman and Ray Davis, so much for depth charts 3 2 4 Quote
AlfaBill Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, Maine-iac said: In today's world 17 games of 4 catches and 51 yards would damn near get you 900 yards. I like that in 23 targets the ball only touched the ground 5 times for our pass catchers. Davis was addition by subtraction. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Missing on the stat sheet was he also drew penalties. I can't say I was disappointed with his debut. 2 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 minute ago, AlfaBill said: Davis was addition by subtraction. Agreed. Just checked and Davis actually had himself a good game today. 3 for 3 and 62 yards with a long of 22. Doing his usual Gabe things. Davis' problem is that he should never be target more than 4 times in a game IMO. You try to get him more involved than that and bad things happen. 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 6 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Really good first game for a rookie. The lead the team in targets, catches, receiving yards. Big contested catch. Drew two penalties. He looks like an impressive physical specimen that likes to play football. Generally agree with this. I must admit I didn't like the pick. Today, the youngster really contributed, didn't look lost, and overall played well. This is very encouraging. 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted September 8 Posted September 8 7 minutes ago, chris heff said: Could that stat be skewed because Josh like to take off and run when that close? No...it goes on a per play basis using EPA on passing plays. 1 Quote
1ManRaid Posted September 8 Posted September 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Happy he had a good first game. That said, he still will have to answer the question about creating space. Also it was a push off No, he was getting mugged with a clear hold, and caught it anyways. He also drew a pass interference and a couple other uncalled holds. They KNOW they have to hold him because if you give him an inch he WILL Moss it over you. Edited September 8 by 1ManRaid 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted September 8 Posted September 8 6 minutes ago, Simon said: Wowzers. Between Coleman and Ray Davis, so much for depth charts I was thinking the same thing. Also worth repeating is the fact that Josh had receptions from 9 different receivers with 10 being "targeted". Everyone will dine at the table. Although, some will eat more. LOL. 6 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 8 Posted September 8 He looked good. Brady did exactly what he said he was going to do. He spread the ball all over the field. If Josh hits that deep post to MVS that game would have been a blowout. 3 2 Quote
AlfaBill Posted September 8 Posted September 8 10 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Agreed. Just checked and Davis actually had himself a good game today. 3 for 3 and 62 yards with a long of 22. Doing his usual Gabe things. Davis' problem is that he should never be target more than 4 times in a game IMO. You try to get him more involved than that and bad things happen. How many drops? Quote
Don Otreply Posted September 8 Posted September 8 4 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: No, he was getting mugged with a clear hold, and caught it anyways. He also drew a pass interference and a couple other uncalled holds. They KNOW they have to hold him because if you give him an inch he WILL Moss it over you. Agree, It was pretty obvious defensive holding / DPI, Coleman showed well today, Quote
Simon Posted September 8 Posted September 8 8 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: No, he was getting mugged with a clear hold, and caught it anyways. He also drew a pass interference and a couple other uncalled holds. They KNOW they have to hold him because if you give him an inch he WILL Moss it over you. That was on the longer catch down the field. He pushed off on the shorter completion outside Quote
Cray51 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 So many posters were so down after worthy had his two touchdowns. Keon did exactly what he needed to for posters for relax a bit. Big time contested catch. 4 catches, good blocking, and drew two holding calls. the potential to be such a complete receiver Quote
1ManRaid Posted September 8 Posted September 8 4 minutes ago, Simon said: That was on the longer catch down the field. He pushed off on the shorter completion outside Oh my bad I guess. I assumed the longer one because first glance even I thought it might have been a push off until the replay showed he was fighting off a PI/hold. Still even with his uncalled apparent pushoff, it's probably a byproduct of him being held all game and needing to hand fight for separation. Quote
Simon Posted September 8 Posted September 8 6 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Oh my bad I guess. I assumed the longer one because first glance even I thought it might have been a push off until the replay showed he was fighting off a PI/hold. Still even with his uncalled apparent pushoff, it's probably a byproduct of him being held all game and needing to hand fight for separation. It was an incredibly subtle push-off; one he clearly practices to avoid getting flagged, imo. When most guys push off it's because they realize they haven't won the route and it's a move to try to win what's already been lost and as a result it comes too late and they get caught. Coleman's push off was actually like it was purposefully integrated to be a part of his route; it's so quick and natural he's going ot get away with it all the time. 2 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 8 Posted September 8 15 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: How many drops? He was 3 for 3 so no drops. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 35 minutes ago, Simon said: Wowzers. Between Coleman and Ray Davis, so much for depth charts This is precisely what I was saying leading up to this game where some people were melting down about Keon and the depth chart. 57 minutes ago, mannc said: I believe he also drew a DPI and a defensive holding penalty. Yup he did and I think he drew a second DPI but was negated by a Bills penalty cancelling it out if I am not mistaken. Quote
AlfaBill Posted September 8 Posted September 8 47 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: He was 3 for 3 so no drops. Wow. An anomaly Quote
Maine-iac Posted September 8 Posted September 8 I'll put on my flame suit here and say Hollins is the Davis replacement not Coleman and so Hollins is more comparable. That said I also think the point is that Hollins will do a lot of what Davis did as a reciever (catching and blocking) and will have more consistent hands and a much friendlier cap hit. 1 Quote
Fixxxer Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Really nice debut, Ieading the receiver group in receptions, something I didn't expect for this game. The guy is really strong. He has a sublte way of pushing his defender without looking like an infraction. So far so good. I liked the way everyone was involved on offense.... 1 Quote
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