Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I'm as anti McD as anyone but can we just play the games and see what happens now?? Let's critique him in the moment good or bad. He's the coach now. There is plenty of time to discuss his future this offseason 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 hour ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: No coach has ever won their first superbowl in Buffalo either Well duh. They never will either. Terry was too cheap to buy a dome so the NFL will never schedule a Super Bowl in Buffalo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 The constant negativity and insane reactions from this fan base are genuinely making it so I am not really excited about the season like I normally would be. A bunch of entitled, whiny, largely clueless, and certainly misinformed (because you can't possibly have all the info) weirdos that just keep spouting the same things over and over because they don't know how to handle their feelings. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 9 hours ago, Chaos said: It is rare. The original poster is pointing out that all 35 did it within 7 years of head coaching the team they won with. Winning a Super Bowl after that time frame would not only be rare, it would be unique. Negative 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 12 hours ago, julian said: lol, this is a stat McDermott haters love. I’d love to see a new HC but I’m not using this in any future argument in favour of replacing g him. Go back to bed for a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 There is some validity to the statement that players grow tired of a coaches message after a period of time when it doesn’t lead to championships. Sometimes a new coach comes in and takes that same team to a championship. That doesn’t seem like the “Billsy” thing to do though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, stuvian said: you need a license for stat fishing out of season. Try doing your homework! Belichick won his first Superbowl in his 7th year as head coach! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BeliBi0.htm Bill Cowher won his first Superbowl in his 14th year as Steelers head coach! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CowhBi0.htm Tom Coughlin won his first Superbowl in his 7th year with the Giants and 11th year as head coach! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CougTo0.htm Tom Landry didn't win a Superbowl until his 12th year as Cowboys head Coach! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/LandTo0.htm Tony Dungy didn't win a Superbowl until his 11th year as head coach! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DungTo0.htm John Madden won a Superbowl in his 8th year as Raiders head coach! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/MaddJo0.htm It's called The internet! Belichick, 2nd team Cowher, made a Super Bowl before winning it Coughing, 2nd team Landry & Madden were pre Free Agency Dungy, 2nd team. Bucs & Colts both went to the Super Bowl the year after he left. For some additional context Edited September 8 by uticaclub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 It doesn't matter, Terry likes him so he is going to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 11 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: You should be immediately banned for making crap up. This is completely false and easily proven with 30 seconds of research. Let’s start with John Madden and the Raiders. 1st Superbowl 1976 - his 8th season with Oakland. Do you know him - got an entire video game franchise named after him. How about Bill Cower? Started in 1992 in Pittsburgh - won his first Super Bowl in 2005 - so 13 years in Pittsburgh before his first Super Bowl. That message must have been super stale. Then you have a coach like Tom Landry that won his first Super Bowl and first championship in year 12. Not all of them were SB years, but he never won a NFL championship before the merger either. So that is 3 guys that break the thread. Then there are all of the coaches mentioned that coached for way more than 7 years on multiple teams before finding the magic to win one. Is it common - No, but it has happened multiple times already in the history of the NFL. 🤦♂️🤷♂️ You're right I meant to say "made it to the superbowl " not " won the superbowl ". I edited the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 11 hours ago, boater said: McDermott haters.... in their vivid imaginations, there is a more qualified sure-fire coach out there just waiting for a job. Waiting for the Bills job to be more specific. This unicorn coach hasn't been hired by the other 31 teams because they don't see the diamond in the rough. All of the following coaches were once thought to be this magical unicorn: G Williams, M Mularkey, D Jauron, P Fewell, C Gailey, D Marrone, R Ryan. Heh... why not roll the dice again? I get what you are saying. It certainly has validity. However, there are sounds arguments to the contrary as well. Change can be risky as well as rewarding. As for myself, I've seen enough of McD in Buffalo. Does he suck? Not at all. His obvious strengths are building a winning franchise and creating a positive culture. Not sure anyone can disagree with that. Can he lead the team to the Super Bowl? Win it all? Be successful in the playoffs? Reach the ultimate goal of hoisting the Lombardi trophy? Thus far, he's come up woefully short with one of the best QBs on the planet. Plenty pointed to Frazier, Daboll, Beane, etc as scapegoats. McD for whatever reason seems receive free passes from it's fan pass. In fact, McD pissed away a likely Super Bowl appearance in 13 seconds. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that. So fast forward to another year with McD at the helm. The team is younger, less experienced, and in a reset mode. Hard to think this team makes a Super Bowl appearance. It depends on what you think and see as a successful season. Great regular season records, division titles, playoff appearances, and a playoff win. That's is certainly a level of success. It's exactly what McD has given us fans. An optimistic fan will likely think McD can get over the hump. Vice versa. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Belichick, Coughlin, and Dungy don't qualify but good find. The stat everyone always clings to is that a coach hasn't won a Super Bowl with the same QB after five years of being together. My counter to that is Josh has only been elite for four years. It took Dungy and Manning five seasons to win it after numerous heartbreaks. Maybe this is our year. Who knows. KC, Mahomes, Reid, and Veach aren't going anywhere. The path to the Bills beating them in the playoffs is what in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 11 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: This is where the McDermott lovers have it wrong, we never say that there is a sure fire coach ready to hire, just that it is a possibility with a change. We understand it might be worse, but willing to take the chance while we still have the greatest qb to ever play for the Bills. We know what we have now, and it's not good enough. Agreed, most guys would have been fired after 13 secs and then after returning he suffers one of worse home playoff losses against Cincy. Sean is a good guy who sometimes puts character ahead of talent. That could be the problem , let's hope he proves some of us who don't believe wrong. My only concern is waiting too long and wasting Allen's prime years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 8 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Who cares? What are you going to do about it? Maybe you should write congress. They either win one or they don’t. McDermott will either eventually get fired or he won’t. Just because it hasn’t happened doesn’t mean it won’t. most of those coaches were probably fired in that time frame. Therefor it never had a chance to happen. just like it’s tough to get rid of a QB like Tua or Jackson or Dak, it’s tough to fire a coach that has the team in contention just about every year. Especially when they have practically no elite game changing stars on the roster. imagine if Reid got fired before getting Mahomes. What if they weren’t the team that got Mahomes. Would he still have a Super Bowl? I care because McD ripped our hearts out in 13 seconds. There's only one way to rectify that wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 idiots and statistics...100% garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 10 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I care because McD ripped our hearts out in 13 seconds. There's only one way to rectify that wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 15 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: idiots and statistics...100% garbage. I mean, statistically speaking it’s probably more likely McDermott is fired than he wins a superbowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 McDermott is pretty much going to be allowed to coach as long as he wants provided he doesn’t do like a 3-14 season. Terry owns the Sabres and that crap show makes Mcdermotts tenure here look like he’s running the 1980s 49ers here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 12 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: You should be immediately banned for making crap up. This is completely false and easily proven with 30 seconds of research. Let’s start with John Madden and the Raiders. 1st Superbowl 1976 - his 8th season with Oakland. Do you know him - got an entire video game franchise named after him. How about Bill Cower? Started in 1992 in Pittsburgh - won his first Super Bowl in 2005 - so 13 years in Pittsburgh before his first Super Bowl. That message must have been super stale. Then you have a coach like Tom Landry that won his first Super Bowl and first championship in year 12. Not all of them were SB years, but he never won a NFL championship before the merger either. So that is 3 guys that break the thread. Then there are all of the coaches mentioned that coached for way more than 7 years on multiple teams before finding the magic to win one. Is it common - No, but it has happened multiple times already in the history of the NFL. 🤦♂️🤷♂️ Hell, OP didn't even go with won. Said made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 2 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: Hell, OP didn't even go with won. Said made. To be fair, originally the OP title said "won" and was changed after Rochesterfan's comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Three and a half hours, fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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