The chatter around the Worthy trade isn't rational

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Worthy is a baller. He's improved a ton since game 1. Started as a gadget guy, now he's a true WR.

[Einstein]

56 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He did well tonight when it really mattered.  Where was Coleman???

 

 

he may get better. As time goes on, he may develop more skills. But as of right now, this moment, Coleman just isn’t that good. He cannot separate, at all, and even when he does get the ball thrown to him, he only catches it about half the time. 

 

but again, I don’t think this should be a Coleman versus Worthy debate. 

 

I genuinely don’t think Worthy fits our offense. 

 

The true tragedy, is that the Chiefs wanted something. They wanted a certain player. And we accommodated that request. We gave them the player that they wanted. That is just beyond fathomable to my brain. 

 

your biggest competitor, the one who has continuously beat you, and made better personnel decisions, and has pushed you out of the playoffs year after year… They want a certain player. And you trade your pick to them so they can get the guy that they want!?!?

 

I just can never get behind that. and it has nothing to do with Coleman or worthy.

 

 

Edited Monday at 04:31 AM by Einstein

[NoSaint]

41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh Torrence was like a spinning top. Suh was on the UK TV coverage and was just laughing at him during the analysis. If he gets a PFF grade above 30 for that performance it will be out of kindness and nothing else.

I think a lot of folks let him off on reputation from last year… cause it’s been terribly uneven this year

[SirAndrew]

5 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Worthy is a baller. He's improved a ton since game 1. Started as a gadget guy, now he's a true WR.

I don’t know why people assume a small fast receiver is a gadget guy. That’s a common skill set in today’s league. The slow receiver who makes contested catches is an outdated concept. 

[colin]

Worthy is the only fast guy in KC, and he killed us.

 

Cook is our only fast guy, and he killed KC.

 

Football isn't flipping rocket science, speed wins and our morons in charge don't want any

[Yobogoya!]

Just now, SirAndrew said:

I don’t know why people assume a small fast receiver is a gadget guy. That’s a common skill set in today’s league. The slow receiver who makes contested catches is an outdated concept. 

If contested catches is your one special trait you’d better be elite at it. 
 

Cause if you’re not elite doing it, then you’re not good. There’s really no room for inbetween. 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

 

he may get better. As time goes on, he may develop more skills. But as of right now, this moment, Coleman just isn’t that good. He cannot separate, at all, and even when he does get the ball thrown to him, he only catches it about half the time. 

 

but again, I don’t think this should be a Coleman verse Worthy debate. 

 

I genuinely don’t think worthy fits our offense. 

 

The true tragedy, is that the Chiefs wanted something. They wanted a certain player. And we accommodated that request. We gave them the player that they wanted. That is just beyond fathomable to my brain. 

 

your biggest competitor, the one who has continuously beat you, and made better personnel, decision decisions, and has pushed you out of the playoffs year after year a few year. And you trade your pic to them so they can get the guy that they want?

 

I just can never get behind that. and it has nothing to do with Coleman or worthy.

you want a real kick in the pants? 
 

worthy is the better version of what we hoped  to do with Samuel. 
 

he absolutely would fit and schematically likely made a ton of sense. We just never really got to see it because that signing seems to be a flop

3 minutes ago, colin said:

Worthy is the only fast guy in KC, and he killed us.

 

Cook is our only fast guy, and he killed KC.

 

Football isn't flipping rocket science, speed wins and our morons in charge don't want any

yup. Either you run past or through a guy. 
 

kincaid and Coleman don’t particularly do either currently. We took 2 first round picks and parlayed them into spot on 1000 yards this year. Woof.

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

you want a real kick in the pants? 
 

worthy is the better version of what we hoped  to do with Samuel. 
 

he absolutely would fit and schematically likely made a ton of sense. We just never really got to see it because that signing seems to be a flop

Yeah, it does kind of suck watching him go up and fight for contested balls (like on the INT). In a way he is doing what we were told Coleman would do, but ALSO having the speed element.

 

That being said, you compared him to Samuel - which I think is a good comparison. And just like we could figure out how to use Samuel, I really don’t think we would have used Worthy to his potential.

 

But even if he was a bust - giving KC the player they want does not sit well with me. 

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

Yeah, it does kind of suck watching him go up and fight for contested balls (like on the INT). In a way he is doing what we were told Coleman would do, but ALSO having the speed element.

 

That being said, you compared him to Samuel - which I think is a good comparison. And just like we could figure out how to use Samuel, I really don’t think we would have used Worthy to his potential.

 

But even if he was a bust - giving KC the player they want does not sit well with me. 

see, I think we had a plan for Samuel that was railroaded either by injury or declining skill. 
 

We ended up subbing in shakir and cook and Ty into some of it but not the same as a 4.2 guy