Which 2024 WR the Bills could have drafted will have the best career

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

I love Keon and he fits right in with what Brady and Bills want to do but man, Ladd McConkey

 

sheesh

 

 

 

He really is looking impressive.

 

I liked him but thought he was more of a slot guy which the Bills already had covered.

 

Looking like a great pick for the Chargers.

 

At the time, if I remember correctly, I liked Legette best, and Worthy next. Thought the Bills were going to go for a separation guy, and that McConkey and Keon would not be considered fits.

 

With hindsight, Keon and McConkey look best. So far anyway.

Edited yesterday at 04:47 AM by Thurman#1

[GASabresIUFan]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

I love Keon and he fits right in with what Brady and Bills want to do but man, Ladd McConkey

 

sheesh

 

 

Ladd runs great route, he has excellent hands, is shifty as all get up, faster and tougher than DBs think.  He is nearly impossible to tackle in the open field and can play both slot and outside.  If he hadn't gotten hurt his last year at GA he'd have been an easy 1st rd pick.  Love Ladd.  

[sven233]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

I love Keon and he fits right in with what Brady and Bills want to do but man, Ladd McConkey

 

sheesh

 

 

 

He's a better version of Cole Beasley.  Same route running ability and understands how to get open.  The difference is after the catch.  McConkey is great after the catch where Beasley was kind of limited in that area.

 

That said, he is more of a slot guy and we have a few of those, including a guy that is quickly becoming one of the best slots in the league.  It's going to be a few years before we know what any of these WRs are going to become.  And when the questions is who would you have drafted, we really can't answer that because we don't know what deals were possibly on the table?  Could we have gotten into the top 10 for what some of us would have deemed a reasonable price but Beane wasn't willing to pay?  Maybe.  Could we have found a way to move up just a few spots for BTJ?  Maybe.  But even including those top guys, I still think it is too early to know what any of them will be by the time it's said and done.  I mean, I wasn't a fan of the Coleman pick myself.  But that doesn't mean he can't be great.  He just didn't have the particular skill set I wanted for this team.  But the fact is, he could end up being the best in the class.  He's got the best QB in the league throwing him the ball and he has physical gifts you can't teach.  So, if he busts his butt and does everything he can to be the best player he can, he can be great.  A lot of times it's hard to answer these questions because all we have is film and the on field testing.  We don't get to interview these kids to find out what drives them and how smart they are.  That's a big part of all of it that we aren't privy to.

[Jay_Fixit]

On 9/5/2024 at 6:15 AM, MR8 said:

McConkey...  This generations Welker/Edelman... But we didn't need another small spot guy, so I'm fine with letting that slide. 

In what way is McConkey any way like Edelman or Welker other than being white? He’s much more like Amon Ra or Antonio Brown.

 

Do you watch football?

 

[klos63]

On 9/5/2024 at 5:48 AM, TheBeaneBandit said:

The thing with Legette (and I liked him a lot) is that he's already 24 so how long of a career can be really have? I think McConkey will be very productive but I'm definitely liking Coleman's presence is late season and playoff games where holding is never called, assuming he learns to make his size work for him.

10 years? That's a long time to play in the NFL

[Mr. WEO]

Bryce Young's #1 WR?

 

That would rule out any chance at "best career"...

[FireChans]

13 hours ago, Magox said:

I love Keon and he fits right in with what Brady and Bills want to do but man, Ladd McConkey

 

sheesh

 

 

Liked Ladd but I think this season is legitimately the peak of his abilities. 
 

Chargers #1 need this offseason remains WR. Even with QJ coming back from looking like an all time bust. 

Slot guys are nice. That’s what they are

[Magox]

This slot argument is silly as if there isn't big time value.

 

Arguably 2 of the top 6-7 receivers over the past few years have been "slot" guys.

 

Amon-Ra has played 60% of his snaps from the slot

Cooper Kupp has played over 65% of his snaps from the slot.

 

Characterizing a player as "well he's just a slot guy" as some some sort of pejorative is wrong-headed.   There is a lot of value to players who know how to play the slot, talent is talent and if a guy can play both despite playing primarily from the slot at a very high level is more valuable than a quote unquote middling #1 WR.

 

I would rather take prime Cooper Kupp or Amon Ra St Brown over Chris Olave, Brandon Aiyuk or a DJ Moore who are all seen as decent typical #1 WR's.

 

Also, if you watch Ladd's speed it matches the 4.39 40 time he had at the combine.  The dude is an absolute burner, defenders don't catch him and he accelerates as impressively as his top end speed.    That's one of SHakir's strengths is his acceleration.

 

But holy crap, Ladd's route running is already in the top 5-10% in the league as it is and he's only going to get better.

 

Again, I am very happy with Keon Coleman and he is exactly what leadership wanted and I think he's a great fit, I'm just pointing out that Ladd has proven lots of people wrong who were down on him throughout the draft process.   I was big on him during the draft and everything that I thought he could be is showing up now.

[GunnerBill]

14 hours ago, Magox said:

I love Keon and he fits right in with what Brady and Bills want to do but man, Ladd McConkey

 

sheesh

 

 

 

Is a really good slot receiver. Got one of those already. 

10 minutes ago, Magox said:

This slot argument is silly as if there isn't big time value.

 

Arguably 2 of the top 6-7 receivers over the past few years have been "slot" guys.

 

Amon-Ra has played 60% of his snaps from the slot

Cooper Kupp has played over 65% of his snaps from the slot.

 

Characterizing a player as "well he's just a slot guy" as some some sort of pejorative is wrong-headed.   There is a lot of value to players who know how to play the slot, talent is talent and if a guy can play both despite playing primarily from the slot at a very high level is more valuable than a quote unquote middling #1 WR.

 

I would rather take prime Cooper Kupp or Amon Ra St Brown over Chris Olave, Brandon Aiyuk or a DJ Moore who are all seen as decent typical #1 WR's.

 

Also, if you watch Ladd's speed it matches the 4.39 40 time he had at the combine.  The dude is an absolute burner, defenders don't catch him and he accelerates as impressively as his top end speed.    That's one of SHakir's strengths is his acceleration.

 

But holy crap, Ladd's route running is already in the top 5-10% in the league as it is and he's only going to get better.

 

Again, I am very happy with Keon Coleman and he is exactly what leadership wanted and I think he's a great fit, I'm just pointing out that Ladd has proven lots of people wrong who were down on him throughout the draft process.   I was big on him during the draft and everything that I thought he could be is showing up now.

 

 

I would take Brandon Aiyuk over any slot receiver. I think a healthy Chris Olave on a team with a good QB I'd do the same. As we saw early in the season with the Bills it doesn't matter how good you are between the numbers, if you can't threaten teams down the field on the outside you are too easy to defend.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

15 minutes ago, Magox said:

This slot argument is silly as if there isn't big time value.

 

Arguably 2 of the top 6-7 receivers over the past few years have been "slot" guys.

 

Amon-Ra has played 60% of his snaps from the slot

Cooper Kupp has played over 65% of his snaps from the slot.

 

Characterizing a player as "well he's just a slot guy" as some some sort of pejorative is wrong-headed.   There is a lot of value to players who know how to play the slot, talent is talent and if a guy can play both despite playing primarily from the slot at a very high level is more valuable than a quote unquote middling #1 WR.

 

I would rather take prime Cooper Kupp or Amon Ra St Brown over Chris Olave, Brandon Aiyuk or a DJ Moore who are all seen as decent typical #1 WR's.

 

Also, if you watch Ladd's speed it matches the 4.39 40 time he had at the combine.  The dude is an absolute burner, defenders don't catch him and he accelerates as impressively as his top end speed.    That's one of SHakir's strengths is his acceleration.

 

But holy crap, Ladd's route running is already in the top 5-10% in the league as it is and he's only going to get better.

 

Again, I am very happy with Keon Coleman and he is exactly what leadership wanted and I think he's a great fit, I'm just pointing out that Ladd has proven lots of people wrong who were down on him throughout the draft process.   I was big on him during the draft and everything that I thought he could be is showing up now.

 

Shakir is kind of already the player we want in this role, and boundary WR was what we most needed.  I don't know that shakir is better than Ladd, but shakir reminds me quite a bit as a smaller nacua.  Great hands, great in traffic, great with the ball in their hand.  They both just have an insane balance and low center of gravity to break tackles.