Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: Well get your story straight, man. Also, if Russia is influencing the election to favor Trump, I hope they do a great job. of course you do. you're a true patriot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 hours ago, Starr-Bills said: Well this came out months ago as Biden, obviously has now switched to the candidate (someone please remind the felon who he running against) anyway The whole idea is to confuse the issue, so that people believe nothing and become apathetic. in this case “Putin supporting the dem” is meant to attack the Russia/Trump situation making Trump look like he is not in Putin’s pocket and he would stand tough and solve Ukraine in 24 hours… horse ***** etc etc. this is literally how propaganda works, and you lap it up like a starving puppy dog. More Russian talking points promoted by the platform they bought. Elon has a plan, and that plan is called Surrender! Re-do elections in eastern Ukraine, the region where all Ukrainian loyalists have been killed or pushed out. In other words, allow remaining Russian-affiliated people to vote for annexation. Give up Crimea. Reward the first Russian aggression. Ukraine remains neutral. In other words, Ukraine remains forever a puppet state of Russia. Call it South Belarus. It takes a genius to come up with that. Almost as if he is simply reiterating Putin's terms. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: of course you do. you're a true patriot! When you're right you're right, komrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wnyguy said: When you're right you're right, komrade. Dude I'm all in for capitalism, competition and democracy. When it runs as designed, losers lose. Go eat borscht and drink some cheap vodka. Edited September 5 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Dude I'm all in for capitalism, competition and democracy. Go eat borscht and drink some cheap vodka. The idea Russia has some great influence over our society and elections is a collective delusion. And you're in it. its a pre-packaged excuse in case your candidate loses. Edited September 5 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: The idea Russia has some great influence over our society and elections is a collective delusion. And you're in it. Russia does not have great influence over our politics. Thank God for that. It has consistently done one thing - a thing that carries over from Putin's Soviet KGB days: it works to cause dissension and distrust in America and the American system of government. All the fools quoting their James Lindsay about communist tactics to undermine the United States somehow forget that the one unreformed Soviet communist is Comrade V. Putin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The idea Russia has some great influence over our society and elections is a collective delusion. And you're in it. its a pre-packaged excuse in case your candidate loses. you fools touted Mueller as exonerating trump. You ignore that it found convincingly that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Do you believe they got that wrong? https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ "Russian interference in the 2016 election was “sweeping and systemic.”[1] Major attack avenues included a social media “information warfare” campaign that “favored” candidate Trump[2] and the hacking of Clinton campaign-related databases and release of stolen materials through Russian-created entities and Wikileaks.[3] Russia also targeted databases in many states related to administering elections gaining access to information for millions of registered voters.[4]"" Why did Putin want trump to win in 2016? Edited September 5 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: Not an op. And so not weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2016 was a 5 billion dollar election. But some hackers on a 20 dollar budget threw the election. When did Mueller know the dossier was fake. And continued to investigate based on its contents being real. Didn't Hillary just pay a fine for that https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/clinton-campaign-dnc-fined-by-fec-for-lying-about-steele-dossier-payments/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Why did Putin want trump to win in 2016? Ask instead why Putin wanted Trump to lose in 2020? You guys are insane with your conspiracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: 2016 was a 5 billion dollar election. But some hackers on a 20 dollar budget threw the election. When did Mueller know the dossier was fake. And continued to investigate based on its contents being real. Didn't Hillary just pay a fine for that https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/clinton-campaign-dnc-fined-by-fec-for-lying-about-steele-dossier-payments/ none of which has anything to do with finding Russia interfered to benefit orange ape. 2 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Ask instead why Putin wanted Trump to lose in 2020? You guys are insane with your conspiracies. Link? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Russia does not have great influence over our politics. Thank God for that. It has consistently done one thing - a thing that carries over from Putin's Soviet KGB days: it works to cause dissension and distrust in America and the American system of government. All the fools quoting their James Lindsay about communist tactics to undermine the United States somehow forget that the one unreformed Soviet communist is Comrade V. Putin. Democrats have an obsession regarding Russia influence. It's a state of paranoia. The actually believe former President Trump was "working for" the Russians and Putin. This is irrational, borderline insanity. They've gotten more mileage from this false narrative, a lie manufactured by the Clinton campaign, for almost 7 years. As I said, its a built-in excuse in case Trump wins in November. It won't be because American voters thought his agenda and platform were better than that of Harris. No, it was because Russian misinformation "tricked" voters. So there's the excuse. His presidency is illegitimate. So now "the resistance" has the moral and ethical duty to obstruct and sabotage the administration. The idea their candidate was inferior is inconsistent with their belief in their own moral and intellectual superiority. All because they need to save democracy. Which means them never losing an election. What all these geniuses are either intentionally ignoring or missing is that China is the actual threat. I accept what you say regarding their objective, but the Russians hold no monopoly in this type of intelligence operation. We do the same thing to them. And in other places where Washington needs to exert their influence to "steer" others to the proper path. There are no white hat good guys or black hat bad guys in this contest. Everything is gray. Edited September 5 by All_Pro_Bills 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Democrats have an obsession regarding Russia influence. It's a state of paranoia. The actually believe former President Trump was "working for" the Russians and Putin. This is irrational, borderline insanity. They've gotten more mileage from this false narrative, a lie manufactured by the Clinton campaign, for almost 7 years. As I said, its a built-in excuse in case Trump wins in November. It won't be because American voters thought his agenda and platform were better than that of Harris. No, it was because Russian misinformation "tricked" voters. So there's the excuse. His presidency is illegitimate. So now "the resistance" has the moral and ethical duty to obstruct and sabotage the administration. The idea their candidate was inferior is inconsistent with their belief in their own moral and intellectual superiority. All because they need to save democracy. Which means them never losing an election. What all these geniuses are either intentionally ignoring or missing is that China is the actual threat. I accept what you say regarding their objective, but the Russians hold no monopoly in this type of intelligence operation. We do the same thing to them. And in other places where Washington needs to exert their influence to "steer" others to the proper path. we're not the ones who said we won after losing only to admit we lost 4 years later. Fuentes says "hi". seems like another nice semi literate traitor Edited September 5 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: we're not the ones who said we won after losing only to admit we lost 4 years later. Fuentes says "hi". seems like another nice semi literate traitor No, your the one's that have cried for 7 years over a lie they manufactured. And still can't admit it because of some mass psychosis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 18 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Ask instead why Putin wanted Trump to lose in 2020? You guys are insane with your conspiracies. Source on this? 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: we're not the ones who said we won after losing only to admit we lost 4 years later. Fuentes says "hi". seems like another nice semi literate traitor HAHAHA HE ADDED A UKRAINE FLAG TO HIS BIO NO WAY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Source on this? Source on what? That Trump "lost" the 2020 election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Source on what? That Trump "lost" the 2020 election? you don't need to pretend to be stupid... 10 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: No, your the one's that have cried for 7 years over a lie they manufactured. And still can't admit it because of some mass psychosis. complaining and starting an insurrection are vastly different. But, Oh, those poor riotous hostages in prison. I'm truly wondering what you MAGAs believe you'll gain if trump wins. Jobs as blackshirts? Edited September 5 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: you don't need to pretend to be stupid... complaining and starting an insurrection are vastly different. But, Oh, those poor riotous hostages in prison. I'm asking if Russian interference enabled Trump to win in 2016 why did it not work in 2020? You see now how stupid you guys sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 10 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Source on this? HAHAHA HE ADDED A UKRAINE FLAG TO HIS BIO NO WAY Yup. And an Israeli flag, Is there a stronger word than "shameless"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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