Diggs' Drama

[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Why does it anger me that this is stickied?  I thought once this dingus was booted from the team we wouldn’t have to continually talk about his drama.  There is absolutely no way he’s coming back, too much bad blood with the coaching staff. 

 

I don't see it stickied.  If you don't want to talk about it, why are you here?

I agree with you, I don't see the team that paid $30M to NOT have Diggs on the team inviting him back.

[TBBills Fan]

18 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I don't see it stickied.  If you don't want to talk about it, why are you here?

I agree with you, I don't see the team that paid $30M to NOT have Diggs on the team inviting him back.

So true.  They literally spent 30 mil for him to not be here.  Then the offense had record breaking numbers without him and Josh had a MVP year without any elite playmakers. Although it can be argued that cook was close to elite, if not elite

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Too bad for him honestly.  His BS really cost him the most in the very end... I ALWAYS THOUGHT he would be able to age well with the sport. hes a route technician, never a speedster guy, when Hill loses a step hes going to fall off a cliff.... but Stef had to be a jerk and scare teams off.... then tearing his ACL at 30 or 31.... weve seen how long it takes guys in their prime to bounce back. 2025 is a wash before its even started.... next year hes what 32?  While likely having a sub 500 yard year this year. with threat of an attitude.... while wanting to be paid like hes the same.... nothing going in his favor, and hes going 2 be the last to accept it

It’s always tricky 

 

your body and game have to age into a new niche - sometimes easier than others as you note. 

 

you have to be very lucky with injuries or lack there of

 

and your ego has to handle a major adjustment for a guy like diggs. I think this is a spot where sometimes being a superstar makes the next phase harder for a guy like him. Mack hollins never got used to being THE DUDE and had to keep up with the dirty work and special teams and being cool with being a bit of the sideshow that can have some moments here and there. 

 

For stef going from a top 5-10 guy in the league to a WR3 only on some teams would take a lot of humbling. I’ve always thought he was an interesting psych study with a bit of anti-social behavior paired so closely with a need to be liked. I wondered if he might surprise with that in an effort to clean up his legacy to be more positive…. but I think the ACL ends it. 
 

 

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

See this is what people don't see when the whole "we could of had Jefferson" crowd pops up.

 

Allen needed that vet trusted WR that could help him grow. Teach him little things about the game. And he got that from the experienced Diggs. A WR to help guide him. 

 

He wouldn't have got that from Jefferson. Jefferson is the WR that as a vet Allen needs now. A young WR with elite skills that will fall in line under the QB that is the unquestioned leader. 

 

Now where they find that type of player this year in the draft...I don't know. 

Another scenario I rarely here mentioned is that Diggs was going to be traded by the Vikings that year likely to a team ahead of in the draft for their first round pick.  Vikings still take Jefferson and we pry take Brandon Aiyuk or Laviska Shenault.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

Based on the comments these past few pages …. We should be hoping he joins the Patriots right? 

He might have to make amends with about six fans though.

 

 

[wppete]

Beane trading Diggs away for a 2nd Round pick turns out to be a great trade. 

[Success]

Man, it just didn't turn out for Diggs.  

 

He had it good here. No one really "won" this one.  He should have appreciated what he had - now he might be on a last-place team next year & very little hope to even get back to the playoffs, much less a title game.

 

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

It’s always tricky 

 

your body and game have to age into a new niche - sometimes easier than others as you note. 

 

you have to be very lucky with injuries or lack there of

 

and your ego has to handle a major adjustment for a guy like diggs. I think this is a spot where sometimes being a superstar makes the next phase harder for a guy like him. Mack hollins never got used to being THE DUDE and had to keep up with the dirty work and special teams and being cool with being a bit of the sideshow that can have some moments here and there. 

 

For stef going from a top 5-10 guy in the league to a WR3 only on some teams would take a lot of humbling. I’ve always thought he was an interesting psych study with a bit of anti-social behavior paired so closely with a need to be liked. I wondered if he might surprise with that in an effort to clean up his legacy to be more positive…. but I think the ACL ends it. 
 

 

Some personality disorder traits in there for sure. But that’s a lot of star WR’s.

 

Some borderline, some narcissism, some histrionic. A need to be liked, splitting between this is the best ever and this is the worst ever, etc etc.

[BillsFanForever19]

The hilarious thing about a possible Diggs to Patriots deal was this was the tweet I saw earlier today:

 

So you want Diggs? 😆

[BillMafia716ix]

If Diggs wasn’t such an ####### he’d still be a Bill. Funny how he thought our window was closing just to turn around and consider a team whose window is bolted shut. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Diggs is in Foxboro….

Edited Thursday at 09:52 AM by Matt_In_NH

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

So you want Diggs? 😆

Patriots front office saw him play against them twice every year and burn their CB's on multiple occasions.  They also saw the year two to three leap happen with Allen when we traded for Diggs.  When Diggs is in the right frame of mind he can be a QB's best friend and be a leader among the young WR group they have.  Giving him a one year contract with all the cap space they have is pry worth it in their minds when it comes to developing Maye.

[Coach Tuesday]

Not the right guy to mentor Travis Hunter.

[BillsFan130]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Patriots front office saw him play against them twice every year and burn their CB's on multiple occasions.  They also saw the year two to three leap happen with Allen when we traded for Diggs.  When Diggs is in the right frame of mind he can be a QB's best friend and be a leader among the young WR group they have.  Giving him a one year contract with all the cap space they have is pry worth it in their minds when it comes to developing Maye.

Fair- But Diggs was what, 26 or 27 when he came to Buffalo? 

 

Now this year he's turning 32 coming off an acl injury.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

23 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Fair- But Diggs was what, 26 or 27 when he came to Buffalo? 

 

Now this year he's turning 32 coming off an acl injury.

Precisely. He's essentially done, sadly. He's a hard worker but Buffalo will be known as his glory years, and the game winner against NO. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

stick a fork in him. he's old (in wr years), coming off a major injury. he's just looking to collect a check now as he's likely not even going to make the postseason with that team.

[Mat68]

1 year 6 mil with another 6 incentives.  Knows the offense has ability to play z and slot.  Pursue another pay day in 26 and a SB now.  Could do a-lot worst.  I think fans took stuff more serious than the players. 

[Royale with Cheese]

If Diggs came back, would it be a bigger shocker than when Ted Nolan came back to the Sabres?

[Beast]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

If Diggs came back, would it be a bigger shocker than when Ted Nolan came back to the Sabres?

Way more of a shock.

[Beck Water]

13 hours ago, Success said:

Man, it just didn't turn out for Diggs.  

 

He had it good here. No one really "won" this one.  He should have appreciated what he had - now he might be on a last-place team next year & very little hope to even get back to the playoffs, much less a title game.

 

 

Regarding the Patriots:
The NFL is a year to year league.  I think the Patriots next season are not going to be a last-place team.   Unless he's changed, I think Vrabel is solid as a coach.  He brings discipline.  He does thorough game prep for opponents and plans well to exploit the tendencies he sees. 

I don't know how good they'll be.   I think Drake Maye has a lot of potential.  I'm skeptical of Josh McDaniel as an offensive coordinator.  There are some QB where he seems to bring out the best, and there are some QB where it seems as though they just can't execute his offense, though they can function adequately or even well under other OCs.

 

Regarding Diggs:

By the end of his last year in Buffalo, Greg Cosell (who watches A LOT of film) was saying that Diggs at that point no longer had the physical abilities of a #1 WR in the NFL.   Maybe he was; the issue with Diggs in Buffalo his last 2 years here seemed to be fading down the stretch and disappearing in the playoffs.  I think it's not uncommon as a player gets older, he can still play and come into the season strong, but it's harder to maintain a high level throughout the full season as the dings and dents mount up.  That's the pattern the Bills saw in 2022 and 2023: a strong start to the season with multiple 100 yd games through wk 8 or 9, then falling off a cliff.

 

Certainly the Texans didn't trade for Diggs and then re-negotiate his contract to shorten it and pay him more because they agreed with Cosell.  But they lost their gamble when Diggs went out with the ACL after Week 8, so we'll never know if he would have done the same "falling off a cliff" move in a full season with them.

I don't think Diggs is gonna be ready to play until the middle of the season.  It'll be interesting to see how he goes.