Diggs' Drama

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 hours ago, jahnyc said:

NY Post has a story about Diggs suing a reality star (Mia Jones — also known as Mulan Hernandez (no idea who she is)).  He alleges he was a victim of an extortion attempt and threatened with ‘deadly weapon’ by Jones. Sounds messy.

He's just a competitive guy. 

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

He's not coming back.  Even at vet minimum. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

He's not coming back.  Even at vet minimum. 

You don’t think a scenario where the Bills re-sign Diggs, and then Josh has to go breakup a domestic dispute between Diggs and Cardi B the night before a playoff game is likely?

[Mr. WEO]

this guy was a bum in Minny.  his Bills collapse was predicted easily.

[JP51]

This level of Drama is just not gonna play well in the Free Agency market... especially coming off an ACL and not even being ready by training camp... he probably goes unsigned at this point...  especially if this blows up... I mean where there is smoke... sometimes there is fire... who wants to sign up for that right now...  as for a Bills reunion... I would say I have a better chance of dunking a basket ball on an 11 foot net with one of you on my back then this happening... 

[julian]

This man was gifted Josh Allen when Bean pulled the trigger on that trade and blessed him with4 years of elite production and SB contention.

 

 I commend Allen and the Bills staff for squeezing every drop out of this headache before he could no longer be held in check.

 

Both trading for him and trading him away were excellent value for Buffalo.

[billsfan89]

36 minutes ago, julian said:

This man was gifted Josh Allen when Bean pulled the trigger on that trade and blessed him with4 years of elite production and SB contention.

 

 I commend Allen and the Bills staff for squeezing every drop out of this headache before he could no longer be held in check.

 

Both trading for him and trading him away were excellent value for Buffalo.

 

Very similar to TO's and Moss's trajectory always seemingly burning out after a few years. TO had his breakout with the 49ers but when that organization became uncompetitive he asked out he had a great start in Philly but demanded a new contract and then went to Dallas where he was very good for a 3 years before they got tired of him. TO Then went to the Bills and Bengals for one year stints and that was a wrap. Diggs had his breakout in Minnesota and then drama ensued so they traded him and the Bills had him for 4 very good years and then traded him because he became too much of a headache. The Texans took a shot with him as a rental and it worked until he got hurt. It just seems like Diggs if he's not producing at an elite level is going to realize that teams aren't going to put up with drama and pay you a lot of money. 

[DCofNC]

39 minutes ago, julian said:

This man was gifted Josh Allen when Bean pulled the trigger on that trade and blessed him with4 years of elite production and SB contention.

 

 I commend Allen and the Bills staff for squeezing every drop out of this headache before he could no longer be held in check.

 

Both trading for him and trading him away were excellent value for Buffalo.

The only real mistake was not reading the signs and giving him that extension.  That dead cap hit last year may well have been the difference between the Bills winning the SB and not.  

[billsfan89]

52 minutes ago, JP51 said:

This level of Drama is just not gonna play well in the Free Agency market... especially coming off an ACL and not even being ready by training camp... he probably goes unsigned at this point...  especially if this blows up... I mean where there is smoke... sometimes there is fire... who wants to sign up for that right now...  as for a Bills reunion... I would say I have a better chance of dunking a basket ball on an 11 foot net with one of you on my back then this happening... 

 

I could see some team (as long as this situation is somewhat settled) offering Diggs a very low end incentive laden one year deal. Coming off a major mid-season injury at his age was always a tough sell. If he was a model citizen the best he could have hoped for was a one year 10ish million dollar deal with a lot of incentives to boost that up. But now you add drama to the other major factors and maybe you get a team that's desperate but low balls you. 

[DCofNC]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

 

Very similar to TO's and Moss's trajectory always seemingly burning out after a few years. TO had his breakout with the 49ers but when that organization became uncompetitive he asked out he had a great start in Philly but demanded a new contract and then went to Dallas where he was very good for a 3 years before they got tired of him. TO Then went to the Bills and Bengals for one year stints and that was a wrap. Diggs had his breakout in Minnesota and then drama ensued so they traded him and the Bills had him for 4 very good years and then traded him because he became too much of a headache. The Texans took a shot with him as a rental and it worked until he got hurt. It just seems like Diggs if he's not producing at an elite level is going to realize that teams aren't going to put up with drama and pay you a lot of money. 

The best part (as an angry/jealous fan), is he bet on himself being worth a huge deal in FA this offseason, even before the injury, that wasn’t going to happen the way he thought and now he’s out himself squarely in the “hope to get a good 1 year prove it deal” category and I strongly doubt he’ll ever recover the money he pissed away by not being able to be professional.   If he ever gets a deal for more than 2 years of guaranteed money again, I’ll be shocked.

[JP51]

43 minutes ago, julian said:

This man was gifted Josh Allen when Bean pulled the trigger on that trade and blessed him with4 years of elite production and SB contention.

 

 I commend Allen and the Bills staff for squeezing every drop out of this headache before he could no longer be held in check.

 

Both trading for him and trading him away were excellent value for Buffalo.

Sometimes I wonder if guys like Antonio Brown, Diggs, Pickens, etc... actually know they are the problem when it keeps happening over and over and over no matter where they go... likely not... but geez... shovel over the head... Hello McFly...  I hope younger players watch these things play out and say... no not me... but seems like it happens all too often...  Mama said you cant fix stupid.... 

[billsfan89]

3 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

The only real mistake was not reading the signs and giving him that extension.  That dead cap hit last year may well have been the difference between the Bills winning the SB and not.  

 

The Bills gave him the extension in the 2022 off-season and had they not given Diggs that extension I would imagine he holds out and the Bills lose him for the next 2 seasons. Give and take there. In 2020-21 both seasons he was both a model citizen relatively speaking while also being an All-Pro in his prime. The Bills gave him that extension with the thinking that if they could get him to be a 1k productive WR until age 32 (which is the tail end of WR primes) they would then hit a point in the contract where they would have been able to get out of it with not much pain cap wise. 

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I could see some team (as long as this situation is somewhat settled) offering Diggs a very low end incentive laden one year deal. Coming off a major mid-season injury at his age was always a tough sell. If he was a model citizen the best he could have hoped for was a one year 10ish million dollar deal with a lot of incentives to boost that up. But now you add drama to the other major factors and maybe you get a team that's desperate but low balls you. 

I think eventually as the season progresses and he is ready to play...  assuming this drama doesnt go all Deshaun Watson on him... yes absolutely... but I think no one is gonna take an immediate flyer on him hoping that this doesnt go Watson and keep him on IR until he is recovered...  but hey teams get desperate and may do exactly what you say... I know I wouldnt... Offseason can be so interesting LOL... 

[billsfan89]

3 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

The best part (as an angry/jealous fan), is he bet on himself being worth a huge deal in FA this offseason, even before the injury, that wasn’t going to happen the way he thought and now he’s out himself squarely in the “hope to get a good 1 year prove it deal” category and I strongly doubt he’ll ever recover the money he pissed away by not being able to be professional.   If he ever gets a deal for more than 2 years of guaranteed money again, I’ll be shocked.

 

It didn't make much sense to me why a WR would be so desperate to hit the free agency market at age 32. I think the Bills would have just cut him or traded him for peanuts to the Texans had they not had the reworked contract put in place to make it a one year rental for Diggs. Texans were the real winners of that Diggs decision not having to be on the hook for about 14 million in dead cap if they cut him. 

2 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I think eventually as the season progresses and he is ready to play...  assuming this drama doesnt go all Deshaun Watson on him... yes absolutely... but I think no one is gonna take an immediate flyer on him hoping that this doesnt go Watson and keep him on IR until he is recovered...  but hey teams get desperate and may do exactly what you say... I know I wouldnt... Offseason can be so interesting LOL... 

 

Odell got a sizable deal from the Ravens after the ACL tear in the Super Bowl and then missing all of the 2022 season. So stranger things have happened. But the main issue with sitting out cap and September early October is that the cap dollars teams (esp good teams) have to pay someone is limited. Most teams don't carry a lot of non-emergency space during the season. 

7 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Sometimes I wonder if guys like Antonio Brown, Diggs, Pickens, etc... actually know they are the problem when it keeps happening over and over and over no matter where they go... likely not... but geez... shovel over the head... Hello McFly...  I hope younger players watch these things play out and say... no not me... but seems like it happens all too often...  Mama said you cant fix stupid.... 

 

You got to have somewhat of an ego to be successful in the NFL. But if you don't have a good support system or you just aren't a very smart person it is easy to let success esp on the NFL level get to your head. There's always going to be diva WR's that implode that's just a fact of life in the NFL sadly. 

[SCBills]

The Allen/Diggs relationship is one of the sadder things to see play out as a Bills fan. 
 

Very reminiscent of toxic relationships im sure many of us have had where it starts off so amazing and then you come off the high and realize there’s nothing there as it deteriorates and falls apart with a messy ending. 
 

From career years, “I’m thankful for you” and magazine covers to whatever that final season was.. feels like a fever dream in retrospect. 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

The Allen/Diggs relationship is one of the sadder things to see play out as a Bills fan. 
 

Very reminiscent of toxic relationships im sure many of us have had where it starts off so amazing and then you come off the high and realize there’s nothing there as it deteriorates and falls apart with a messy ending. 
 

From career years, “I’m thankful for you” and magazine covers to whatever that final season was.. feels like a fever dream in retrospect. 

 

Be thankful it happened and not sad it is over is the way I look at it. For 3 seasons it was a truly magical connection and then in 2023 after a good start Diggs got banged up and the relationship started to tire Josh and the coaching staff. It was time to move on. After Josh in 2019 showed progress towards being a capable starting caliber QB the Bills needed to get Josh a true WR1 and Diggs paired so well with him. It was great those first two years and then it slowly unraveled over the last two. Honestly wouldn't hate seeing Diggs back in 2-3 years for one last run if he's still productive and matured as he gets deeper into his 30's. 

[DCofNC]

5 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Be thankful it happened and not sad it is over is the way I look at it. For 3 seasons it was a truly magical connection and then in 2023 after a good start Diggs got banged up and the relationship started to tire Josh and the coaching staff. It was time to move on. After Josh in 2019 showed progress towards being a capable starting caliber QB the Bills needed to get Josh a true WR1 and Diggs paired so well with him. It was great those first two years and then it slowly unraveled over the last two. Honestly wouldn't hate seeing Diggs back in 2-3 years for one last run if he's still productive and matured as he gets deeper into his 30's. 

Egomaniacs like him don’t mature, they get more bitter about what was and whine.  Let him do his act elsewhere.

[krf139]

Wait a second… the pandering Buffalo media told us “nothing to see here” for over a year re: Diggs’ drama and completely gaslit anyone who dared to call Diggs a problem. Where’s the accountability from them? Looking at you Sal Cappacio 

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I could see some team (as long as this situation is somewhat settled) offering Diggs a very low end incentive laden one year deal. Coming off a major mid-season injury at his age was always a tough sell. If he was a model citizen the best he could have hoped for was a one year 10ish million dollar deal with a lot of incentives to boost that up. But now you add drama to the other major factors and maybe you get a team that's desperate but low balls you. 

I'm betting Houston in that teams, too. Dell may not play at all next year and if he does who knows how well it would be 

 

A 1 year "Prove it" makes sense for both sides.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm betting Houston in that teams, too. Dell may not play at all next year and if he does who knows how well it would be 

 

A 1 year "Prove it" makes sense for both sides.

My money is on KC. I think that's been his goal when he decided to leave the Bills.