Diggs' Drama

[FireChans]

43 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

Few more nightclubs and less clothing on women in the locales you mention

Man it’s almost like exactly what 26 year olds with money would be interested in.

 

Diggs wasn’t taking a family of 5 to Art Park on a Saturday.

[Doc Brown]

23 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

It's like a preponderance of evidence for me

 

Of course none of us know what happened but I see no reason to extend the benefit of doubt to the guy who did this exact same thing w his previous employer

 

I loved the way he played and disliked basically everything else about him. Pure unfiltered narcissism and pathological insincerity 

Exactly which is why I'm not going to automatically make him a villain in the messy breakup.

[Spiderweb]

9 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Again, that is cap, not money...if you are arguing the Bills never should have given him that extension they paid for but never got one game out of him, I agree bad contract...

You're missing the point.... That was 31 mil we didn't have against the cap to sign a few more players. Jeez .. 

[Mr. WEO]

Is Diggs the biggest locker room cancer for the Bills the past 20 years?

[GaryPinC]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Buffalo has that. I 100% agree big cities have tons more stuff but it's not like Buffalo is just a gas station and a traffic light. Again, my point is if you want something, make a minimal effort to see if it exists in Buffalo. Want to hit Toronto? Go right ahead. Fun town. But if you have 4 hours free and want to do something, head to Elmwood Ave or Allentown.

I agree with you about Buffalo, but despite how damaging "nothing to do" is, I think everyone is being too literal.  It's more about "bright lights, big city" for many of these guys.  Tons of stuff to do.

[Beck Water]

8 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I get what you're saying but I see it differently.  It's not real money but it's not semantics either.  By NFL accounting rules, it's just the same as if we wrote Diggs a check for $31 million.  

 

$70 million of Diggs' contract was guaranteed so I'm guessing some money did change hands when we traded Diggs though I don't know how much.  I assume Diggs got the remainder of that $70m.  

 

In any case, the bookkeepers allocated $31 million for Diggs this year which meant we had $31 million less for other players.  My point was, you don't take a dead cap hit like that unless you really want a player gone.  

 

So Diggs had a 4 yr, $96M salary of which $70M was guaranteed.  The money that was guaranteed was:

1) signing bonus of $21.5 - this is paid to the player up-front

2) 2022 and 2023 salary guaranteed at signing 
3) I don't remember if there was an option bonus built into the contract, or if the Bills converted a bunch of Diggs salary to bonus and amortized it.

3) 2024 salary of $19M guaranteed on the 4th day of the 2024 league new year

4) he had some guaranteed salary in 2025, think it was $3 or $3.5M

 

So the $31M of cap hit for Diggs on the Bills books, was amortized bonus already paid to Diggs that accelerated onto the current league year when the Bills traded him.

 

The Texans became liable for Diggs 2024 salary of $19M and 2025 guarantee of $3 or $3.5M.  What they did, was tack the 2025 guarantee onto his 2024 salary, then convert a lot of it to signing bonus and amortize it.  

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "some money did change hands" but the above is a fairly accurate picture.

 

[Sierra Foothills]

8 hours ago, dma0034 said:

I still remember after his first year when I said trading for him was a mistake especially since the pick led to Justin Jefferson and everyone jumped on me.

 

Oh how the turns have tabled

 

Well... you've really taken the sails out of our wind...

 

4 hours ago, Blank Stare said:

I cannot stand this comment about the area when it’s thrown around. And it’s not some inferiority complex thing either. I genuinely don’t get it. Seriously, what do all these other cities that these guys visit or live have that Buffalo doesn’t? I don’t live in the area anymore, but I visit at least once each year and there’s always plenty to do. Excellent eats and breweries. Not overly congested. Night time entertainment. Outdoor activities. Museums. Shopping. Etc.

 

Ok, so the taxes stink and winter weather can be tough occasionally - no palm trees as a certain cross town team GM would say - but so what? I’ve travelled and lived all over the country (including hot spots like Southern California and South Florida which always seem to be the envy of all these players) and Buffalo (and surrounding area) has everything you’d ever need and more. You’ve got to make the effort just like anywhere else you go to learn your surroundings. Maybe it’s the location of the stadium or where they live, but these guys just come off as a bunch of whiners when they make comments like this. Get out much?

 

Your words are impassioned but there's something missing from your delivery... just not convincing for some reason...

 

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Spiderweb said:

You're missing the point.... That was 31 mil we didn't have against the cap to sign a few more players. Jeez .. 

that was not what was said.  Who doesn’t understand dead cap??  Jeez

[Blank Stare]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Man it’s almost like exactly what 26 year olds with money would be interested in.

 

Diggs wasn’t taking a family of 5 to Art Park on a Saturday.

🤷‍♂️ could be. Fair to say he wasn’t taking his daughter to the club either. Different strokes for different folks I guess. My main point in all this is guys saying there’s nothing to do is a pretty weak take. 

[Rico]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Is Diggs the biggest locker room cancer for the Bills the past 20 years?

20 years, no. 19 years, yes.
Bledsoe was still here in 2004.

[Aussie Joe]

Anyone missing all the “drama”…?

 

Trying to work out the secret meaning contained in  those 5 word tweets …and the arguments here that people were reading too much into rumours of him being unhappy and that he isn’t going anywhere ….

 

 

[hondo in seattle]

4 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

So Diggs had a 4 yr, $96M salary of which $70M was guaranteed.  The money that was guaranteed was:

1) signing bonus of $21.5 - this is paid to the player up-front

2) 2022 and 2023 salary guaranteed at signing 
3) I don't remember if there was an option bonus built into the contract, or if the Bills converted a bunch of Diggs salary to bonus and amortized it.

3) 2024 salary of $19M guaranteed on the 4th day of the 2024 league new year

4) he had some guaranteed salary in 2025, think it was $3 or $3.5M

 

So the $31M of cap hit for Diggs on the Bills books, was amortized bonus already paid to Diggs that accelerated onto the current league year when the Bills traded him.

 

The Texans became liable for Diggs 2024 salary of $19M and 2025 guarantee of $3 or $3.5M.  What they did, was tack the 2025 guarantee onto his 2024 salary, then convert a lot of it to signing bonus and amortize it.  

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "some money did change hands" but the above is a fairly accurate picture.

 

 

Thanks for explaining.  I wasn't sure about how Diggs was paid in real money.  

 

In Monopoly money (i.e. NFL accounting) we're paying him $31m this year to play for another team which suggests Beane and/or McD don't want him around.  So I don't foresee him coming back to the Bills nor would I want him.  

[Sojourner]

6 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

In Monopoly money (i.e. NFL accounting) we're paying him $31m this year to play for another team which suggests Beane and/or McD don't want him around.  So I don't foresee him coming back to the Bills nor would I want him.  

Hope they paid him in Yellow and Orange bills 🙃

[Man with No Name]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

20 years, no. 19 years, yes.
Bledsoe was still here in 2004.

Never heard the stories. He was that bad, huh? 

[Jauronimo]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

20 years, no. 19 years, yes.
Bledsoe was still here in 2004.

What did Bledsoe ever do?

[Skyline Chili]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Is Diggs the biggest locker room cancer for the Bills the past 20 years?

Yes

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, Blank Stare said:

🤷‍♂️ could be. Fair to say he wasn’t taking his daughter to the club either. Different strokes for different folks I guess. My main point in all this is guys saying there’s nothing to do is a pretty weak take. 

Nah it’s just nothing they want to do. Guys at 26 with $60M in the bank want to get bottle service at eleven with 100s of beautiful girls around them, not go to a hole in the wall dive on Elm Street.

 

The reason the guys who settle down, get married, move on to a new page in their life generally stay in Buffalo. Guys like Fred Jackson.  Buffalo has a lot of appeal for a guy like that because it’s the same appeal it has for a lot of fans.

 

The young guys never stick around because there’s not much here for them. Hell, half the guys posting on this board about how great Buffalo is left for one reason or another.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

What did Bledsoe ever do?

Provided lots of dashed hopes and dreams! He was the equivalent of eating empty calories with zip nutritional value—dude could put up numbers, but for us never when it counted most. 

Edited December 18 by NoHuddleKelly12

[Jauronimo]

11 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Provided lots of dashed hopes and dreams! He was the equivalent of eating empty calories with zip nutritional value—dude could put up numbers, but for us never when it counted most. 

I don't see how that makes him a locker room cancer.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I don't see how that makes him a locker room cancer.

I didn’t mean to imply that he was—I just went off on a tangent ranting since his name was brought up and yes, I’m still bitter 🙈.