LabattBlue Posted September 13 Posted September 13 He may be a guru in terms of being an OC, but put him at a podium and he sounds like a babbling idiot. 1 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 13 Posted September 13 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Christian Wilkins (13th overall). Robert Hunt (2nd rd). Andrew Van Ginkel (5th rd). Jerome Baker (3rd rd). Brandon Jones (3rd rd). Raekwon Davis (2nd rd). All Miami draft picks that were allowed to walk instead of getting a 2nd contract while they threw more money at Ramsey and Hill, and extended a mid-tier QB. It's like they got all those picks in the Tunsil trade and then threw them all away. That is how you destroy a franchise. I'm going to look at some of the long term cap impact once there is more detail but even if Tua is back in 2025 (I don't think he should) they were already leveraged close to Max with those extensions. Now those players will get close to impossible to get off the books. If Tua is done, they will need to crater nearly everything else to pay aging stars they can't win with. 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: He may be a guru in terms of being an OC, but put him at a podium and he sounds like a babbling idiot. I have come to respect his ingenuity as an OC. His HC decisions are what sinks him 2 Quote
TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th Posted September 13 Posted September 13 It's wild to think how in the span of a couple weeks the dolphins went from "set for the future, competing for superbowls for many years" to " in cap hell for at least 5 years and pretty much guaranteed irrelevance during that time" Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted September 13 Posted September 13 8 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said: It's wild to think how in the span of a couple weeks the dolphins went from "set for the future, competing for superbowls for many years" to " in cap hell for at least 5 years and pretty much guaranteed irrelevance during that time" Seems like that happens every year. They get so over-hyped in the offseason because all the talking heads want to be assigned to cover them in south florida. And then the season starts and they ***** the bed. Love to see it. Quote
Saxum Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Curious... 🤔 Players usually coast when they get paid not head coaches. 1 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Stop the annoying moonball to Tyreek and they are mediocre at best Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Stop the annoying moonball to Tyreek and they are mediocre at best we'll see. Mostert and Achane are complete nightmares when healthy 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: we'll see. Mostert and Achane are complete nightmares when healthy They are a lot to deal with if they are all healthy but teams have figured out how to do it. They are just rotating D coordinators and don't have a lot of success with any of them. Losing Wilkens is a big deal....having Ramsey is not. They misplayed that IMO 1 Quote
Sweats Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Right now, Miami isn't scaring anyone.......take away the run game and they got nothing. Quote
Big Turk Posted September 23 Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: They are a lot to deal with if they are all healthy but teams have figured out how to do it. They are just rotating D coordinators and don't have a lot of success with any of them. Losing Wilkens is a big deal....having Ramsey is not. They misplayed that IMO Not really. Their offensive scheme is severely limited by their lack of fundamentals and reliance on trickery and gimmicks and their QB. Punch them in the mouth and they fold like a cheap tent. 2 Quote
JerseyBills Posted September 23 Posted September 23 22 minutes ago, Saxum said: Players usually coast when they get paid not head coaches. For sure, they're extremely top heavy team, GMs seat should definitely be very warm, McDaniels will be safe til at least next year imo but they def seem to lack culture/leadership 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not really. Their offensive scheme is severely limited by their lack of fundamentals and reliance on trickery and gimmicks and their QB. Punch them in the mouth and they fold like a cheap tent. I said for the last 2 years, theirO reminds me of an arena football team, that'll only get you so far in the nfl before defenses figure you out. The 2 high safety look seems to be their cryptonite 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Their roster looks like a bunch of message board posters put it together. It’s all doubled up at the fun positions and completely bare at the boring positions. 2 3 4 2 Quote
JerseyBills Posted September 23 Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Their roster looks like a bunch of message board posters put it together. It’s all doubled up at the fun positions and completely bare at the boring positions. 🎯🎯🎯🎯 1 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 23 Posted September 23 15 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Their roster looks like a bunch of message board posters put it together. It’s all doubled up at the fun positions and completely bare at the boring positions. Their depth is terrible. Madden create-a-player names at WR 1 1 Quote
Udubalum07 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 A couple of years ago they were loaded up with the most cap space of any team and multiple first round picks for a few years. They made terrible draft picks and trades that were "huge splashes", but didn't really improve them as a team. This includes choices of coaches and coordinators, they went all in to win the last couple of years with a formula that wasn't going to win them games. They did succeed in drawing more interest for a couple of years. I like the comment about message board users building the team. They actually did a great job setting themselves up for success, but a horrible job in having it come to fruition. 1 Quote
Simon Posted September 23 Posted September 23 17 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Their roster looks like a bunch of message board posters put it together. It’s all doubled up at the fun positions and completely bare at the boring positions. I've thought that it's what the Bills roster would look like if this board was allowed to use a bunch of assets load it up with a pile of "#1" receivers. 3 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted September 23 Posted September 23 13 minutes ago, Udubalum07 said: A couple of years ago they were loaded up with the most cap space of any team and multiple first round picks for a few years. They made terrible draft picks and trades that were "huge splashes", but didn't really improve them as a team. This includes choices of coaches and coordinators, they went all in to win the last couple of years with a formula that wasn't going to win them games. They did succeed in drawing more interest for a couple of years. I like the comment about message board users building the team. They actually did a great job setting themselves up for success, but a horrible job in having it come to fruition. On 9/13/2024 at 7:55 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Christian Wilkins (13th overall). Robert Hunt (2nd rd). Andrew Van Ginkel (5th rd). Jerome Baker (3rd rd). Brandon Jones (3rd rd). Raekwon Davis (2nd rd). All Miami draft picks that were allowed to walk instead of getting a 2nd contract while they threw more money at Ramsey and Hill, and extended a mid-tier QB. It's like they got all those picks in the Tunsil trade and then threw them all away. That is how you destroy a franchise. I mean, they made some decent draft picks. The problem is they let them ALL walk in order to... throw more money at 30 yr old Hill and 30 yr old Jalen Ramsey. No love for the trenches. Cant win in the NFL with that. 3 1 Quote
H2o Posted September 23 Posted September 23 The first game they won on a last-second FG. Game two, well, we own the Phins. Josh is their daddy and they know it. We played that two high look and shut their WR's down. We got pressure on Tua, which is the formula to causing him make mistakes. Then he gets hurt. That pretty much ended Miami's season. Tua is decent, but Tua is fragile. He made it through last year and they fell for it by giving him that huge contract. Pretty much everyone else, everyone with any sort of common sense on the outside, could so this being a sooner or later scenario. It just so happened to be sooner rather than later. Not too many teams are going to win with Skylar Thompson or Tim Boyle. You look at the construction of the rest of this roster, and you understand why they can't win. They paid $50M to an often concussed QB. They have two close to $30M WR's. They traded for and gave Bradley Chubb $110M w/ $54M gtd. They traded for Jalen Ramsey and just gave him $72M w/ $55M gtd. They paid the often injured Terron Armstead too much $$$. They have Jalen Phillips coming up on a contract. Jevon Holland will likely chase the $$$. Poyer has been worse than a JAG for them. The depth on that roster across the board is bad, except for at WR and RB. The OL is probably Bills 2018 bad, only Tua doesn't have 10% of Josh's athletic ability so he can run for his life. Ross and Grier created, then rewarded this mess. It's bad business all the way around. Maybe Flores was right? Quote
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