Venezuelan gang takes over apartment buildings in Colorado.

[BillsFanNC]

Something I'm inclined to believe as likely true:

 

Some Haitian illegals just might be eating cats, dogs and geese in the USA, just like some do in Haiti.

 

Something I'm going to laugh, point and mock you for ever believing for even a nanosecond, let alone years:

 

The Great Orange Menace was peed upon by Russian hookers in a Moscow hotel room.

[Roundybout]

19 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Brownstones are very cool, though expensive to maintain, energy inefficient and the average life expectancy in the 1940s was about 62.  I think they’re pretty pricey, too, in the $2m range for not much space. 

That said, the average size of a typical Brownstone is 19x40, and the average sf occupied by a resident in NYC is around 500.
 

 http://urbancalc.com/post/NYC-Residential-Density/#:~:text=New York City has about,the city as a whole.

 

Let’s cut that in half and say the in the Roundy’s On Broadway Lego Huts, you market hard on the notion that a family of 4 is living in paradise on 250sf.  
 

Current population of NYC is 8.2m, +|- and of course people already live somewhere. Obviously, those places are likely energy inefficient too, not up to current building codes, and there has to be a plan to address.  Then, of course to make this all work you’ll want to increase population exponentially. 
 

Are you imaging  a row of Roundy Brownstones 1,789 stories high?  Or maybe two stories spread out over several square miles?
 

No doubt you’ll want to expand e/w/n/s and take some private property via eminent domain, but eventually you hit NJ and Ct.

 

Oh—are you bringing asbestos back? 

 

 

What on earth are you talking about? 
 

I don’t want the Kowloon Walled City, I just want our zoning policies to be relaxed to allow for the gentle density type development that was predominant in the USA prior to suburbanization. 

[ScotSHO]

20 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

What on earth are you talking about? 
 

I don’t want the Kowloon Walled City, I just want our zoning policies to be relaxed to allow for the gentle density type development that was predominant in the USA prior to suburbanization. 

 

In summary, you want to Make American Urban Housing Great Again (MAUHGA).

[Roundybout]

21 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

 

In summary, you want to Make American Urban Housing Great Again (MAUHGA).

That summarizes my view, yes

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

32 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

What on earth are you talking about?
 

I don’t want the Kowloon Walled City, I just want our zoning policies to be relaxed to allow for the gentle density type development that was predominant in the USA prior to suburbanization. 

You brought up Brownstones, built up through the 1940s, and implied I felt they were somehow...scary. If you're talking about developers throwing up a couple 2-3 story brownstone-type apartments with a Starbucks nearby, that's great for some people.  I assumed you were speaking on a larger scale, as in, reimagined city planning for the masses.  My bad.  

 

Jeesh, I had to admit I was trolling Andy1 and now I find you don't want stacked living for the masses, and probably don't even like asbestos. 

 

Worst. Day. Ever. 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

10 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

That summarizes my view, yes

My take on suburbanization is that it was enabled by the advent of the automobile and is one of the greatest waste of resources, materials, energy, land, and water in the history of the human race. But the ability to spread out in low density subdivisions and have some space and privacy between you and your neighbors was the compelling reason for the migration. Urbanizing suburbia is counter to its entire purpose. I'd describe it as a living arrangement having attributes of both country and urban living but without the advantages of neither.

Edited Friday at 03:01 PM by All_Pro_Bills

[Roundybout]

15 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

My take on suburbanization is that it was enabled by the advent of the automobile and is one of the greatest waste of resources, materials, energy, land, and water in the history of the human race. But the ability to spread out in low density subdivisions and have some space and privacy between you and your neighbors was the compelling reason for the migration. Urbanizing suburbia is counter to its entire purpose. I'd describe it as a living arrangement having attributes of both country and urban living but without the advantages of neither.

 

You’re actually spot on with this. 
 

Early suburban development emerged in the 1920s. Planners like Olmsted and Wright tried to capture a pastoral ideal and designed new developments to resemble the countryside. 
 

But my take is that it is eventually going to be undesirable. We’re already seeing it as shopping malls are transformed to “lifestyle centers” with shopping AND residential, like little facsimiles of traditional cities. I anticipate people will eventually seek denser developments.