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12 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Huh?

 

It's a paraphrase of the saying, "It's better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".   You probably should have waited to post your "analysis" until you saw at least one regular season game rather than buying into every negative view of the Bills expressed by talking heads in the media and anonymous fans on sports talk radio or Bills message boards.

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3 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

It's a paraphrase of the saying, "It's better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".   You probably should have waited to post your "analysis" until you saw at least one regular season game rather than buying into every negative view of the Bills expressed by talking heads in the media and anonymous fans on sports talk radio or Bills message boards.

It’s an opinion board.  I gave my opinion which so far looks wildly incorrect.  Have you ever been wrong about anything?  I could take the route of simply erasing the thread because I’m the OP in it.  Im sure that’s a route someone SoTeary as you might take.  
 

Instead I owned up to being wrong.  If you had read through the thread you might have noticed.  Apparently you preferred to criticize an old post that I already acknowledged was erroneous.  Should I go look to see if you wanted to draft Josh Rosen and then make hoity toity comments about you?

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On 9/26/2024 at 12:26 PM, 4merper4mer said:

It’s an opinion board.  I gave my opinion which so far looks wildly incorrect.  Have you ever been wrong about anything?  I could take the route of simply erasing the thread because I’m the OP in it.  Im sure that’s a route someone SoTeary as you might take.  
 

Instead I owned up to being wrong.  If you had read through the thread you might have noticed.  Apparently you preferred to criticize an old post that I already acknowledged was erroneous.  Should I go look to see if you wanted to draft Josh Rosen and then make hoity toity comments about you?

Can someone retract a retraction?

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Well the OP's original point about needing an OC looks more prescient now...

 

Also I agree with the leadership issue--we could use a bit more burning desire to win beyond Josh.

 

Terrell Bernard is a good candidate for our defensive leader. One more guy on offense would be great too.

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16 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Well the OP's original point about needing an OC looks more prescient now...

 

Also I agree with the leadership issue--we could use a bit more burning desire to win beyond Josh.

 

Terrell Bernard is a good candidate for our defensive leader. One more guy on offense would be great too.

Josh has no leadership skills. Read the OP.  His peers have zero respect for him because hes a goofball.  A sampling of 100 NFL personnel, 10 of whom voted him as overrated, proves this.  Its all in the OP.  If only we had kept serious people like TreDavious and Poyer, we might be winning one on one matchups on sidelines in the passing game.  But they had to go because they hurt Josh's feelings and not because they are expensive and completely, totally, 100% cooked at this stage in their careers.  Again, read the OP.

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1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

Josh has no leadership skills. Read the OP.  His peers have zero respect for him because hes a goofball.  A sampling of 100 NFL personnel, 10 of whom voted him as overrated, proves this.  Its all in the OP.  If only we had kept serious people like TreDavious and Poyer, we might be winning one on one matchups on sidelines in the passing game.  But they had to go because they hurt Josh's feelings and not because they are expensive and completely, totally, 100% cooked at this stage in their careers.  Again, read the OP.

 

Okay, if that was the point I disagree. But I do think we could use a few guys to step up into leadership roles, now that we lost a lot of those type of guys. 

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25 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Well the OP's original point about needing an OC looks more prescient now...

 

Also I agree with the leadership issue--we could use a bit more burning desire to win beyond Josh.

 

Terrell Bernard is a good candidate for our defensive leader. One more guy on offense would be great too.

 

remember when Diggs "had a burning desire to win"?

 

yeah...

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1 hour ago, Ray Stonada said:

 

Okay, if that was the point I disagree. But I do think we could use a few guys to step up into leadership roles, now that we lost a lot of those type of guys. 

It wasn’t the point but J likes making up crap.

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1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

It wasn’t the point but J likes making up crap.

 

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It’s pretty clear to anyone with an objective pair of eyes that 2024 has already been and will continue to be a year of change for the Bills franchise.  Even whe setting aside the looming new stadium and other topics beyond players and coaches, massive change is clearly afoot.  
 

We’ve been a good team for the last few years, we have the number one building block needed for an NFL team, a QB with elite skills, but our first roster build around that QB failed, and we will see where our second build leads, but……this year is neither,  it’s the change year.  Like it or not, 2024 is lost.  Because:

 

We got rid of our best non-QB offensive weapon

We decided to get rid of leadership anywhere and everywhere we could 

We’re still saddled with useless players on ridiculous contracts and/or paying off cap hits from departed players

We have a coach that prefers defense to offense and as such opted for ineptitude at OC for this year

There are clearly players still on the roster that either shouldn’t be, or who the coaches would prefer off


 

Given all of the above, it is silly to expect much from 2024.  The big question is how it will position us for 2025 and beyond.  Below are what I’d like to see happen in and after 2024 to help position us for 2025.  They are not in order of importance really.  Most or all will need to happen.

 

1. McDermott fully realizing complementary football doesn’t simply mean a nerfed and vanilla offense letting the defense get more rest during the year, but also allows for situational strategy and games where we are high octane.  
2. An off season hiring of a real OC, not a puppet.

3. Bye Bye Von.  Take your big talk with you.

4. Apparently some our our leaders and their styles hurt the feelings of some snowflakes so Diggs, Morse, Tre, Poyer, and more are gone.  Emergence of new leaders and new leadership styles is a must.  If you’re going to get rid of a player like Diggs because he hurt some feelings, you’re going to learn the easy way or the hard way, that sometimes hurt feelings are necessary.  You simply can’t have a bunch of “fun” leaders.  Josh or someone will need to fill that void as the team navigates the turbulence inevitable in any season.  Based on recent press disclosures, the amount of respect for Josh around the league is slim to none,  I wonder how much of that stems from his lack of seriousness.  Rousseau is no longer everyone’s understudy.  Now is his time.  Who will be the others?
5. Like #1 but different……McDermott either deciding to simply get rid of players he doesn’t like or deciding to live with them.  No more trying to play the middle with back handed compliments like the ones he throws at James Cook for example.  You can’t change everyone,  Either roll with them or don’t.  
6. Let players that clearly don’t want to be here walk,  I’m not sure why Douglas doesn’t want to be here but it’s pretty obvious.  
7. Be objective and clear the decks of traveling hospital wards like Milano even if they were great while they were here.

8. Ditch enablers to the goofball leadership style even if they are decent players.  Get something for them.  I really like Dawkins and Knox as players and think they are underrated but they also don’t appear to take winning seriously.  There is too much of that in the locker room.

9. Beane’s accurate assessment of all of the above as 2024 plays out.  The cap stuff will be mostly gone moving into next year.  Does he go right after it in 2025 or is it time for a major re-set?  No more a little bit of both.

 

2024 is a metamorphoses year.  We will emerge in 2025.  Are we in a cocoon this year so we’ll emerge an ugly moth or are we in a chrysalis so we can emerge a beautiful butterfly?   We’re about to find out.

I'd say my post is a pretty accurate paraphrase of this friggin abortion.

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1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

 

I'd say my post is a pretty accurate paraphrase of this friggin abortion.

Lol you focused on Tre and Poyer and left out Diggs and Morse.  Which side of the ball do these four guys play on?

 

Also: My point was about leaders who were willing to push and you focused not on leadership, but on current defensive playmaking skills.  Why did you do that?  
 

Has a successful sports team ever rostered a player past their prime because of their leadership skills, even if the plan was reduced playing time?  
 

The Bills sure looked like they were having fun in weeks 1-3.  When things were less fun in weeks 4&5, how was the leadership able to adjust IYHO?  
 

What is clearly needed is leadership that is not present for merely three on field hours per week.  Our leadership needs to develop to be closer to 24/7/365.  I hope it does.  Denying that need won’t make the need go away, but by all means continue to focus your objection on Poyer’s 40 time.  That makes sense.

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1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

We needed to keep him, against his will.  His sideline and social media antics were the only true leadership we had.  

 

He is the only player who has successfully tossed his helmet at his own bench in both conferences. 

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