hondo in seattle Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 17 hours ago, Maynard said: Was in a grocery line bagging those goods up. Yep. Warner wasn't even deemed good enough to be on a practice squad. He was only good enough to stock the shelves where the practice squad players bought their groceries. It's an amazing story. Sometimes scouts and coaches get things wrong, though it remains true that the vast majority of p-squad players don't become impact players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Yep. Warner wasn't even deemed good enough to be on a practice squad. He was only good enough to stock the shelves where the practice squad players bought their groceries. It's an amazing story. Sometimes scouts and coaches get things wrong, though it remains true that the vast majority of p-squad players don't become impact players. If you look at the QB room of the Packers in 1994 I think they had Favre, Warner, Aaron Brooks and Ty Dettmer all at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: If you look at the QB room of the Packers in 1994 I think they had Favre, Warner, Aaron Brooks and Ty Dettmer all at the same time. No Brooks, but Mark Brunell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Doc said: No Brooks, but Mark Brunell. oh my bad I knew it was a QB that ended up starting elsewhere. Edited August 30 by The Jokeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 53 minutes ago, Doc said: No Brooks, but Mark Brunell. I remember seeing a comment from Brunell about how incredible it was to be in that room. He said he learned stuff every day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 20 hours ago, Maynard said: Was in a grocery line bagging those goods up. Close enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Can we get the first page update to include the full, current list? Kind of defeats the purpose of pinning this thread otherwise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Back to the PS discussion. Have to say I like these last three signings, cheap development players with injury or other issues that have masked their potential. The new safety really fits the Beane/McDermott “coach up physically talented raw player” not saying he is a future starter or will even see playing time but if anyone is going to coach up a Safety it’s the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 minute ago, Starr-Bills said: Back to the PS discussion. Have to say I like these last three signings, cheap development players with injury or other issues that have masked their potential. The new safety really fits the Beane/McDermott “coach up physically talented raw player” not saying he is a future starter or will even see playing time but if anyone is going to coach up a Safety it’s the Bills. I love the Lewis Cine signing!! This one could really pay off!! I agree with you that McD can coach up safeties!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 3 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Can we get the first page update to include the full, current list? Kind of defeats the purpose of pinning this thread otherwise. Yes and I would be in favor of a mod doing this if the OP ghosts the topic. It’s for the good of the community and an example of when moderator intervention would be justified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) Thought this was interesting. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-top-10-nfl-practice-squad-classes-lions-eagles-bills-lead-the-way/ Quote 3. Buffalo Bills QB Mike White, RB Frank Gore Jr., WR K.J. Hamler, WR Tyrell Shavers, TE Zach Davidson, OL Richard Gouraige, OL Will Clapp, OL Mike Edwards, DE Kingsley Jonathan (International Pathway Program), DE Kameron Cline, DT Eli Ankou, DT Branson Deen, CB Daequan Hardy, CB Te'Cory Couch, S Kareem Jackson, S Lewis Cine, WR Jalen Virgril Cine is incredibly compelling for many reasons -- firstly, he's played 10 regular-season snaps in the NFL. He's also still a freaky talent at 6-2 and 200 pounds with 4.37 speed which we can assume is fully back now two years removed from his rookie-year knee-ligament tear. And he's playing for his Georgia defensive backs coach, Jahmile Addae in Buffalo. Gore Jr. was arguably the best workhorse back during the preseason with a hefty 3.09 yards after contact per rush average along with three runs of 10-plus yards on 33 attempts in August. Shavers and Davidson are two sizable athletes at receiver at tight end, and Gouraige, a collegiate teammate of starting right guard O'Cyrus Torrence, has developed nicely at the swing tackle position. He only surrendered two pressures on 47 pass-blocking snaps this preseason. Hardy is an ultra-explosive slot cornerback with plus instincts and return talent, and White has a live arm as an emergency quarterback. Jackson is a long-time hard-hitting veteran at safety with coverage chops underneath and at the intermediate level. Cbs needs a better editor. Cine has played 10 NFL games not just 10 snaps. That said, I agree with their overall comments. The International designation for Jonathan is really smart on Beane’s part. Nice way to add a 17th PS player. Many of these guys have NFL experience. I can see Gouraige making the team as a backup in a year. I can also see Cine making the Bills by mid-season. I saw him often in college and he is a terrific athlete. If McD and Addae can get him back to the player we saw in Georgia, we have gained a future starter for nothing. Edited August 30 by GASabresIUFan 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFan said: Thought this was interesting. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-top-10-nfl-practice-squad-classes-lions-eagles-bills-lead-the-way/ Cbs needs a better editor. Cine has played 10 NFL games not just 10 snaps. That said, I agree with their overall comments. The International designation for Jonathan is really smart on Beane’s part. Nice way to add a 17th PS player. Many of these guys have NFL experience. I can see Gouraige making the team as a backup in a year. I can also see Cine making the Bills by mid-season. I saw him often in college and he is a terrific athlete. If McD and Addae can get him back to the player we saw in Georgia, we have gained a future starter for nothing. and Gouraige, a collegiate teammate of starting right guard O'Cyrus Torrence, has developed nicely at the swing tackle position. He only surrendered two pressures on 47 pass-blocking snaps this preseason. I had no idea that Gouraige played that well during the preseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, first_and_ten said: I love the Lewis Cine signing!! This one could really pay off!! I agree with you that McD can coach up safeties!! Yeah this feels like a potential long term answer at safety if he can stay healthy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 37 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: and Gouraige, a collegiate teammate of starting right guard O'Cyrus Torrence, has developed nicely at the swing tackle position. He only surrendered two pressures on 47 pass-blocking snaps this preseason. I had no idea that Gouraige played that well during the preseason. There was some talk on the a few podcasts and other articles how close he was to making the roster this year. Between Kromer on the O Line and McD with DBs we certainly know how to develop players at those positions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: Thought this was interesting. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-top-10-nfl-practice-squad-classes-lions-eagles-bills-lead-the-way/ Cbs needs a better editor. Cine has played 10 NFL games not just 10 snaps. That said, I agree with their overall comments. The International designation for Jonathan is really smart on Beane’s part. Nice way to add a 17th PS player. Many of these guys have NFL experience. I can see Gouraige making the team as a backup in a year. I can also see Cine making the Bills by mid-season. I saw him often in college and he is a terrific athlete. If McD and Addae can get him back to the player we saw in Georgia, we have gained a future starter for nothing. They make those sites impossible to navigate with the amount of pop ups and ads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 8 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Pretty damn sure you're the fella at the holiday season table explaining to the youngsters that reindeer don't fly and Santa is an imaginary fat dwarf who couldn't possibly get down a chimney. I mean, if you're saying grown adults that treat 20 something reps in nothing Pre-Season games as the be all, end all of roster building are akin to little kids believing in Santa Claus - sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 29 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I mean, if you're saying grown adults that treat 20 something reps in nothing Pre-Season games as the be all, end all of roster building are akin to little kids believing in Santa Claus - sure. It's just a joke, fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 13 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Yep. Warner wasn't even deemed good enough to be on a practice squad. He was only good enough to stock the shelves where the practice squad players bought their groceries. It's an amazing story. Sometimes scouts and coaches get things wrong, though it remains true that the vast majority of p-squad players don't become impact players. Warner's team was filled with super stars and a great OL. Better players don't succeed due to where they get drafted/signed and the team they go to. Many of the top QBs get let go because they were in a team devoid of talent... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 14 minutes ago, ganesh said: Warner's team was filled with super stars and a great OL. Better players don't succeed due to where they get drafted/signed and the team they go to. Many of the top QBs get let go because they were in a team devoid of talent... My wild theory. I think Mac Jones could run that Shannahan offense as well as Purdy and Tua. 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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