Justin Shorter WR

[Spiderweb]

On 8/28/2024 at 1:05 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I think we are all tired of the "this guy can play special teams" narrative.  

It would almost be palatable if we were even any good at special teams, but we arent. Terrible punter, shaky kicker, and who really cares about the rest.

 

Martin, healthy, is not "terrible".

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Shorter was never good. Being 5* Recruit out of HS where the vast majority of competition is NOT playing Big 10 or SEC ball doesn’t make you an NFL Superstar. He was always a guy that got looks because of his looks.

[HOUSE]

Should have drafted somebody taller

[GASabresIUFan]

4 hours ago, ganesh said:

Impact players are top-5 in the NFL at their position...Meaning they are in the top 15% of their position. 

So there are only 5 impact QBs in the NFL?  Only 5 impact RBs?  Good thing we have a RB that finished 3rd in yards from scrimmage in the NFL.  What about DT? Oliver finished 4th in sacks, or can there by 10 DTs since teams usually play 2.  Do we have to wait for PFF or ESPN to tell us their top 5 or can we think for ourselves? 

 

I’m sorry for being a little sarcastic, but these definitions that are being proposed are way too limiting or too subjective or too media driven.  They don’t account for emerging or young players that are beginning to make huge impacts for their teams or players that don’t get media accolades or positions that are stacked with talent.  
 

For example ESPN’s top 100 didn’t list T Johnson. Isn’t he acknowledged as the best slot corner in the NFL?  
 

What about Cook?  Last year was a breakout campaign.  Does he have to replicate that season again to be anointed as an impact player or can we all agree that he was one of the top 5 backs in the NFL last year and hope we get a repeat performance this season.  
 

Oliver and Dawkins are two of the most underrated players in the NFL. Who cares that the media rarely sings their praises.  They are indispensable to the Bills.  
 

Would you trade Benard for Edmunds?  Yeah, didn’t think so! He was 12th in tackles but isn’t an impact player because we stop counting at the top 10?
 

So how about Diggs?  Is he still an impact player? He is the only receiver to catch 1000+ the last 5 years but he was outplayed by Shakir in the 2nd half of the season on 1/3rd of the targets.  

[JP51]

They are gonna make him a TE? 

 

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