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7 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

Along with tons of his fans within Bills Mafia, NBA star LeBron James took to social media and even had to say how much he did not agree with that title bestowed upon Allen. James wrote via his social media account on Instagram and made his stance known.

James said:

“I GUARANTEE he’s at the top of the scouting report before playing Buffalo offensively! So who cares”

 

I thought you were kidding, but then I just stumbled across the Tweet that shows Lebron's post about it 😄

 

Edit: You have to click the tweet to see the actual image of Lebron's reply at the bottom. Lame.

 

 

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Even ESPN nyc radio, Michael Kay show was bashing Allen being overrated,  Kay said he thinks guys are clearly jealous,  Josh has endorsements,  dating an actress, cover of madden etc and made alot of guys look bad on the field,  combined w the trash talk, he said jealousy. 

 

Compared it to Jeter not being a unanimous hofer cause 2 guys didn't vote him in. They tend to bash Buffalo,  so was surprised to hear 

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On 8/27/2024 at 10:31 AM, MJS said:

Josh Allen has 174 total touchdowns (passing, rushing and receiving) in the past four seasons. That's 23 more than anyone else since 2020 and the most in a four-year span by any player in NFL history. He has 75 turnovers in that span, 14 more than anyone else.

 

He is the modern day Brett Favre, really.

 

 

Thus he is a net +99.  How does that rank? 

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Josh may put up 50 total tuds with an actress girlfriend and a new ridiculous haircut. Of course he’s hated. The man scored 15 effing rushing TDs last year and people only talk about it as if it’s a detriment to his passing game. He’s such a unicorn that the lower lames point and laugh if he falls short of a ring and records. He had 44 touchdowns last year (lol) and some basement Mountain Dew swillers on this very board still scratch their chin hairs and trip over themselves trying to quantify the next anti-Allen reach.

 

If and when he wins one, he’ll be the most hated man in the game.

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On 8/28/2024 at 3:22 PM, Gregg said:

This was posted by a Jets fan on their message board.

 

 

 

Josh Allen has the most tds in NFL history to this point 

He has the second most playoff tds in NFL playoff history for a QB in his first ten playoff games 

He is tied for the 4th most passing touchdowns in NFL history for a QB in his first 6 years 

He has the most tds over a 4 year span ( before and after the merger) in NFL history 

Allen is second in passing touchdowns since 19 and 20 ( 6 behind mahomes).

 

If you took out all of Allens rushing production he has still tied Peyton Manning in passing touchdowns in his first 6 years starting, yet has about 30 less int over that same 6 years starting...

He has the lowest int percentage in NFL playoff history 

He has the 3rd LEAST amount of turnovers in NFL playoff history for a QB in his first ten playoff games 

He has more playoff tds than Burrow Lamar Herbert and Lawrence combined....

If you took out Allens best playoff game and took out burrow and Lamars worst playoff game, Allen still has a higher passer rating, higher td %, higher passing touchdown %, higher qbr ...

 

If you take away all of Allens wildcard stats 

He still has better overall playoff numbers than Lamar and burrow. 

Allen since 2020 in the regular season and postseason he has almost 100 more tds than Lamar... A frickin hundred...lol

 

Allen overall record vs mahomes 3-4 ( since 2020}

Allen record vs mahomes since 21 (3-2)

Allen in those past 5 games vs mahomes 

16 tds 1 turnover 

Mahomes 11 tds 5 turnovers 

 

Allen has a career playoff passer rating of 100...

Allen at age 28 has already tied the great Jim Kelly in playoff passing touchdowns (21)

 

Can someone explain wtf is going on???

 

 

 

 

 

How did the other Jet fans react to this? 
 

This is actually a better post on Allen’s statistical dominance than any I have ever seen on Bills forums. I believe it would take an outsider with an eye for stats to understand the nonsensical INT narratives when looked at in context. 
 

Allen has GOAT numbers already. When Allen wins a SB he will skyrocket into top 10 all time over night because casuals will begin to see these numbers in a different light. 

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7 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

Allen has GOAT numbers already. When Allen wins a SB he will skyrocket into top 10 all time over night because casuals will begin to see these numbers in a different light. 

 

To this point, if Mahomes didn't exist everyone would be looking at Allen as the up and coming GOAT. That is how good Allen's numbers are and how close he is to Mahomes in ability and raw numbers.  Really, it's too bad the Allen and Mahomes are in the same conference otherwise at least two of the last four Super Bowls probably would have featured those two going head to head against each other. 

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10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

He's a top 5 QB,. He plays for the Bills. we've been a top team since shortly after he joined.  

people say silly things. Ignore them.

Top 5.  Yeah, he’s also a top 30.  Top 2.

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5727310/2024/09/02/nfl-teams-rumors-russell-wilson-skepticism-davante-adams-trades/

‘After speaking with dozens of sources around the NFL this summer, I compiled intel on all 32 teams.

The information ranges from a broad overview of how a team could fare this season to other more specific tidbits regarding particular players and roster construction.

We have a lot of ground to cover, so let’s get right to it. 
 …

Buffalo Bills: Following the release of an anonymous poll of NFL players, there was some debate last week over whether quarterback Josh Allen may be overrated. That certainly isn’t a debate among the many league executives and coaches I’ve spoken with. He is still largely considered the second-best QB in the NFL behind only Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes.‘

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