GaryPinC Posted August 26 Posted August 26 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and quite amazing really Yep, both sides now embrace the same tactics to enforce what they see as "correct"
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 39 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and quite amazing really GOP votes agains caps on drug prices. But then Dems are pro big pharma. The GOP surrenders to the taliban, and wants to let allies being conquered and destroyed and stop the suffering in Gaza, but the Dems are pro war. The gop wants to allow dis and mis information unchecked, but wants to arrest peaceful blm, and climate protestors which of course makes Dems for censorship Texas throws out millions of voter registrations, fight for gerrymandered districts and loves the EC, but that makes Dems “authoritarian’ cool link bro. 2 2 1 1
sherpa Posted August 26 Posted August 26 8 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: The GOP surrenders to the taliban, and wants to let allies being conquered and destroyed and stop the suffering in Gaza, but the Dems are pro war. Absolute nonsense. 4 2
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: Absolute nonsense. The US caved in – or, as former US ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker called it – surrendered. For a year and a half, it engaged in talks with the Taliban in Doha. It pushed them forward even after US President Donald Trump called them off temporarily after the death of a US soldier in a suicide bombing in September last year. ymmv
sherpa Posted August 26 Posted August 26 10 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: The US caved in – or, as former US ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker called it – surrendered. For a year and a half, it engaged in talks with the Taliban in Doha. It pushed them forward even after US President Donald Trump called them off temporarily after the death of a US soldier in a suicide bombing in September last year. ymmv Again. Absolute nonsense. 2
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 26 Posted August 26 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Again. Absolute nonsense. Hes nonsense, are u surprised? 2
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Again. Absolute nonsense. Did Trump release 5000 Taliban? Did Trump set a date for evacuating Afghanistan? 2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Hes nonsense, are u surprised? No I’m Billsy, or is it BillStime I forget who you told me I was last, and non-cents is my round up to the nearest dollar cousin.
sherpa Posted August 26 Posted August 26 (edited) There is no way that what trump negotiated with the Taliban would ever have resulted in this embarrassing, horrible escape from Afghanistan. Only Biden and his ilk were capable of this, and it went back to a personal thing between he and Obama. Again, absolute nonsense. A disgrace. Edited August 26 by sherpa 1 1 2
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, sherpa said: There is no way that what trump negotiated with the Taliban would ever have resulted in this embarrassing, horrible escape from Afghanistan. Only Biden and his ilk were capable of this, and it went back to a personal thing between he and Obama. Again, absolute nonsense. A disgrace. Everyone gets an opinion.
B-Man Posted August 26 Posted August 26 Starr-Billstime Kamala Harris Tied HERSELF to Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal, Trump Merely Noticed Today marks the third anniversary of the day 13 American service members died in a terrorist attack during Biden and Harris' disastrous and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan. With that in mind, the media's approach will be hack-tastic as usual. The Associated Press is taking a "Trump pounces" approach by making it about Harris' opponent rather than her admitted direct role in the deadly withdrawal for which nobody's been held accountable: https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/08/26/attn-hack-media-kamala-harris-tied-herself-to-bidens-afghanistan-withdrawal-trump-merely-noticed-n2400162 3
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 26 Posted August 26 15 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Did Trump release 5000 Taliban? Did Trump set a date for evacuating Afghanistan? No I’m Billsy, or is it BillStime I forget who you told me I was last, and non-cents is my round up to the nearest dollar cousin. You might be worse. That's pretty bad........ 1 1
sherpa Posted August 26 Posted August 26 20 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Everyone gets an opinion. No. Everyone decides on an opinion. Biden had the power, based on our putting him position to do this. He did it, and it was a disgrace. He didn't have to do it this way. He was given the option by his JCS Chairman and his Sect. of Defense. He chose not to take those options, and then lied about them being suggested. He hasn't got anything right in 40 years. 1 1
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Starr-Billstime Kamala Harris Tied HERSELF to Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal, Trump Merely Noticed Today marks the third anniversary of the day 13 American service members died in a terrorist attack during Biden and Harris' disastrous and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan. With that in mind, the media's approach will be hack-tastic as usual. The Associated Press is taking a "Trump pounces" approach by making it about Harris' opponent rather than her admitted direct role in the deadly withdrawal for which nobody's been held accountable: https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/08/26/attn-hack-media-kamala-harris-tied-herself-to-bidens-afghanistan-withdrawal-trump-merely-noticed-n2400162 No one here is concerned about Bush II & Cheney needlessly getting thousands of US service members killed in Iraq. And not concerned that the massive lost of life and treasure and prestige for the US in a useless and falsely instigated attack on that country could have led to the failures in Afghanistan (taking the eye off the ball so to speak, and diverting resources). and look we don’t know how the felon would have done the withdraw, because he scheduled it for after his term, to either be a trap for Biden or a can to be kicked down the road if he had won (or stolen the office). ‘and Big Biden was the POTUS so the buck stops with him, could have been executed better, even with the cards he was dealt. but sure it’s Kamala’s fault. 2 1
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 7 minutes ago, sherpa said: No. Everyone decides on an opinion. Biden had the power, based on our putting him position to do this. He did it, and it was a disgrace. He didn't have to do it this way. He was given the option by his JCS Chairman and his Sect. of Defense. He chose not to take those options, and then lied about them being suggested. He hasn't got anything right in 40 years. Given Clarence Thomas hearings, kinda hard to argue.
sherpa Posted August 26 Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: No one here is concerned about Bush II & Cheney needlessly getting thousands of US service members killed in Iraq. And not concerned that the massive lost of life and treasure and prestige for the US in a useless and falsely instigated attack on that country could have led to the failures in Afghanistan (taking the eye off the ball so to speak, and diverting resources). More nonsense. The removal of Saddam was a US Congress and UN approved mission. It was a brilliantly executed military operation, as was Afghanistan. Then it became nation building. Then it invited Iran, which is the single worst operator in the world along with Russia, an item threat that the Dems have never had any success dealing with, and only will get worse. 1
Starr-Bills Posted August 26 Posted August 26 1 hour ago, sherpa said: More nonsense. The removal of Saddam was a US Congress and UN approved mission. It was a brilliantly executed military operation, as was Afghanistan. Then it became nation building. Then it invited Iran, which is the single worst operator in the world along with Russia, an item threat that the Dems have never had any success dealing with, and only will get worse. Bush/Cheney made up WMD to go into Iraq. Congress authorized it based on that lie. US military answered the call. Still in the end thousands of Americans died, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Because of that lie. They also neatly kneecapped any political aspirations Powell may have had. They (Cheney) are not dumb just mean and greedy. Afghanistan was the base of operations for the attack by the Saudi nationals, including Osama bin Laden against the United States on 9/11 (and the Cole, etc) and seems quite justified. If the US hadn’t been distracted by the lie, that was the invasion of Iraq, maybe Afghanistan could have gone differently, though it did take till Obama to get Osama. The problem in both was not the military. It was the leadership. And Bush/Cheney initiated and was leader for 7 years for both. so not sure how that a dem problem. Iran is a bad actor theocracy (this should give everyone here pause for all this god/Christianity in government nonsense talk lately), as is, and as I continue to state, Russia. the fact stands that the felon, let 5000 Taliban go. He set the date, he wanted to meet with them at camp David on 9/11. He does not care about this country, the military or anything that does not benefit him. 1
Scraps Posted August 26 Posted August 26 2 hours ago, sherpa said: More nonsense. The removal of Saddam was a US Congress and UN approved mission. It was a brilliantly executed military operation, as was Afghanistan. Then it became nation building. Then it invited Iran, which is the single worst operator in the world along with Russia, an item threat that the Dems have never had any success dealing with, and only will get worse. After removing the government of another country by way of a war, how does the mission not become nation building? How was Iran not going to be empowered after the Sunni minority government was removed? 1
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