ChiGoose Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 37 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Military Industrial Complex… A Security State, not beholden to the Constitution, that has amassed so much power over the last 75 years, that they dictate to our elected officials… That, coupled with the financing coming from multi billion dollar global corporations, has created a sort of “shadow” government that operates to maintain and increase its own power and control over the globe… And in their eyes, the American politician and citizen exists only to serve the interests of the MIC…And if not, they are either removed or eliminated… So, when I refer to politicians that are Establishment, what I mean is that they serve the interests of the MIC… This is tinfoil hat stuff. Please vehemently tell everyone you know about this while advocating for Trump. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: Have you realized yet that no one wants “political outsiders” since they don’t know how to accomplish anything? The establishment rules. Get on board. "Assimilate or die" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: This is tinfoil hat stuff. Please vehemently tell everyone you know about this while advocating for Trump. I keep hearing that Trump is Pat Buchanan 2.0 or America's Orban. Every time I see these things I realize its simpler. He's Lyndon LaRouche 2.0, somehow this time actually getting votes. From his Wiki page ... see if anything sounds familiar: Born in Rochester, New Hampshire, LaRouche was drawn to socialist and Marxist movements in his twenties during World War II. In the 1950s, while a Trotskyist, he was also a management consultant in New York City.[10] By the 1960s, he became engaged in increasingly smaller and more radical splinter groups. During the 1970s, he created the foundation of the LaRouche movement and became more engaged in conspiratorial beliefs and violent and illegal activities. Instead of the radical left, he embraced radical right politics and antisemitism.[10][11] At various times, he alleged that he had been targeted for assassination by Queen Elizabeth II, Zionist mobsters, his own associates (who he said had been drugged and brainwashed by CIA and British spies), in addition to others.[12][13] LaRouche's campaign platforms advocated a return to the Bretton Woods system, including a gold-based national and world monetary system; fixed exchange rates; and abolishing the International Monetary Fund.[112] He supported the replacement of the central bank system, including the U.S. Federal Reserve System, with a "national bank";[113] a war on drug trafficking and prosecution of banks involved in money laundering;[114] building a tunnel under the Bering Strait; the building of nuclear power plants; and a crash program to build particle-beam weapons and lasers, including support for elements of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). He opposed the Soviet Union and supported a military buildup to prepare for imminent war; supported the screening and quarantine of AIDS patients; and opposed environmentalism, deregulation, outcome-based education, and abortion:[115] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: This is tinfoil hat stuff. Please vehemently tell everyone you know about this while advocating for Trump. The guy they try to throw in jail, remove from the ballot, assassinate, spend every waking second trying to run propaganda against in the media and big tech...that's the guy for me! It will only slow the inevitable because we have brain dead morons in this country (and on this forum) but maybe just maybe we can still have a country for the better part of my lifetime if we screw up their plans just a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, K D said: "Assimilate or die" 100% agree. That’s why, when I fly, I don’t want any of those “establishment” pilots who are a part of big airplane. I want a real true blue anti-establishment pilot who has never flown before. When my car has issues, I don’t take it to one of those establishment mechanics who are gonna sell me on “oil changes” and “putting gas in the car”, I want someone who hasn’t been captured by the mechanical-industrial complex to tell me which essential oils my car needs. When I’m sick and my doctor prescribes medicine, I throw that prescription in the garbage and go to my local shaman who is unburdened by “science” or “medicine” so they can tell me that the real cure I need is a juice cleanse. Just now, K D said: The guy they try to throw in jail, remove from the ballot, assassinate, spend every waking second trying to run propaganda against in the media and big tech...that's the guy for me! It will only slow the inevitable because we have brain dead morons in this country (and on this forum) but maybe just maybe we can still have a country for the better part of my lifetime if we screw up their plans just a little bit. The guy that everyone thinks sucks at his job? That’s the guy for me! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: 100% agree. That’s why, when I fly, I don’t want any of those “establishment” pilots who are a part of big airplane. I want a real true blue anti-establishment pilot who has never flown before. When my car has issues, I don’t take it to one of those establishment mechanics who are gonna sell me on “oil changes” and “putting gas in the car”, I want someone who hasn’t been captured by the mechanical-industrial complex to tell me which essential oils my car needs. When I’m sick and my doctor prescribes medicine, I throw that prescription in the garbage and go to my local shaman who is unburdened by “science” or “medicine” so they can tell me that the real cure I need is a juice cleanse. You are absolutely correct. I would never take my car to a dealership. It costs twice as much as an independent mechanic who I know and trust. But I usually just fix the car myself because I'm not a moron. I haven't been to a doctor in years. I work out every day and I have a super strict diet and I never take any prescription medicine. I got Covid once and was sick for 3 days and before that I don't remember the last time I even had a cold. Big pharma wants you hooked on prescription meds and they give kickbacks to doctors to do so. Is that even a question anymore? That's pretty well documented. Whatever the mainstream way of doing things is it's usually wrong. There's however many billions of people on this planet and most of them are idiots. If you want to be a part of the herd then good for you. Whatever it is that most people do I'll gladly do the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, K D said: There's however many billions of people on this planet and most of them are idiots. I’m not sure if “most” is the right qualifier here, but I do agree that you seem to fit in the category. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 No such thing. But here is a dem calling out the hypocrisy on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 hours ago, K D said: The guy they try to throw in jail, remove from the ballot, assassinate, spend every waking second trying to run propaganda against in the media and big tech...that's the guy for me! It will only slow the inevitable because we have brain dead morons in this country (and on this forum) but maybe just maybe we can still have a country for the better part of my lifetime if we screw up their plans just a little bit. Who is "they?" 5 hours ago, K D said: You are absolutely correct. I would never take my car to a dealership. It costs twice as much as an independent mechanic who I know and trust. But I usually just fix the car myself because I'm not a moron. I haven't been to a doctor in years. I work out every day and I have a super strict diet and I never take any prescription medicine. I got Covid once and was sick for 3 days and before that I don't remember the last time I even had a cold. Big pharma wants you hooked on prescription meds and they give kickbacks to doctors to do so. Is that even a question anymore? That's pretty well documented. Whatever the mainstream way of doing things is it's usually wrong. There's however many billions of people on this planet and most of them are idiots. If you want to be a part of the herd then good for you. Whatever it is that most people do I'll gladly do the opposite. Even if all of this is true, it's not a reason to support or tot vote for a guy who has no regard for the very document that protects your rights to live a counterculture life. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 hours ago, ChiGoose said: The guy that everyone thinks sucks at his job? That’s the guy for me! No, the woman who sucked at being just Vice President, that's the gal for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 hours ago, ChiGoose said: This is tinfoil hat stuff. Please vehemently tell everyone you know about this while advocating for Trump. You are very naive, especially when evidence is right in front of your face… ”Tim fool hat” comments are what people say when they have nothing to offer…😉 Additionally, I already explained how Trump is not completely immune from the MIC… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 6 hours ago, ChiGoose said: 100% agree. That’s why, when I fly, I don’t want any of those “establishment” pilots who are a part of big airplane. I want a real true blue anti-establishment pilot who has never flown before. When my car has issues, I don’t take it to one of those establishment mechanics who are gonna sell me on “oil changes” and “putting gas in the car”, I want someone who hasn’t been captured by the mechanical-industrial complex to tell me which essential oils my car needs. When I’m sick and my doctor prescribes medicine, I throw that prescription in the garbage and go to my local shaman who is unburdened by “science” or “medicine” so they can tell me that the real cure I need is a juice cleanse. The guy that everyone thinks sucks at his job? That’s the guy for me! Please tell me you’re not really as infantile as your post makes you out to be… Please illustrate you are capable of having adult conversations without devolving into childish quips that aren’t productive for anybody…👍 If not, please just let me know that some topics are just too scary for you to seriously contend with, and I will understand…At least I will be able to respect you for being honest…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 48 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Who is "they?" Even if all of this is true, it's not a reason to support or tot vote for a guy who has no regard for the very document that protects your rights to live a counterculture life. Stop being silly. They is currently the Democrat party and they are doing the same exact thing to RFK to keep him off the ballot so he is joining with Trump. Stop supporting this nonsense. It's anti American. Trump has no power and will be gone in 4 years. In the meantime they will do everything they can to impeach him again and throw him in jail. Why would they do that if he was a part of their plan? They didn't do that to Bush or Cheney and they committed actual war crimes However it worked out and whatever you think of him, Trump is the only thing between us and them taking full control. In politics you can't have 1 party be too powerful. You need checks and balances or they will just do whatever they want. Always vote against the party in power. Trump might be an idiot but for now he is a useful idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, K D said: Stop being silly. They is currently the Democrat party and they are doing the same exact thing to RFK to keep him off the ballot so he is joining with Trump. Stop supporting this nonsense. It's anti American. Trump has no power and will be gone in 4 years. In the meantime they will do everything they can to impeach him again and throw him in jail. Why would they do that if he was a part of their plan? They didn't do that to Bush or Cheney and they committed actual war crimes Last I checked a likely mentally ill Republican took a shot at Trump. Not a Democrat. RFK has this little problem called rule of law. As it happens, he didn't follow said law and he's not going to be on the NYS ballot. As far as the war crimes issue goes, float that one down at the VFW and ask how many of those vets agree. Was it a stupid, needless war? I guess. I have no idea why we fought the second Iraq war, and I completely understand--maybe, better put, I acknowledge and respect, because I wasn't there--the anger flowing from that decision. But if there were "actual war crimes" then some rank and file vets are complicit. I'm not going there. Nobody should. Those guys sacrificed enough for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, SectionC3 said: Last I checked a likely mentally ill Republican took a shot at Trump. Not a Democrat. RFK has this little problem called rule of law. As it happens, he didn't follow said law and he's not going to be on the NYS ballot. As far as the war crimes issue goes, float that one down at the VFW and ask how many of those vets agree. Was it a stupid, needless war? I guess. I have no idea why we fought the second Iraq war, and I completely understand--maybe, better put, I acknowledge and respect, because I wasn't there--the anger flowing from that decision. But if there were "actual war crimes" then some rank and file vets are complicit. I'm not going there. Nobody should. Those guys sacrificed enough for us. Hoax. Crooks was a Dem. Agree on the second Iraq war. Was a huge mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Last I checked a likely mentally ill Republican took a shot at Trump. Not a Democrat. RFK has this little problem called rule of law. As it happens, he didn't follow said law and he's not going to be on the NYS ballot. As far as the war crimes issue goes, float that one down at the VFW and ask how many of those vets agree. Was it a stupid, needless war? I guess. I have no idea why we fought the second Iraq war, and I completely understand--maybe, better put, I acknowledge and respect, because I wasn't there--the anger flowing from that decision. But if there were "actual war crimes" then some rank and file vets are complicit. I'm not going there. Nobody should. Those guys sacrificed enough for us. They literally tortured people in Guantamo bay. It's all on record. There are pictures. They also invaded a country and overthrew their leader for absolutely no reason and caused thousands and thousands of deaths. Bush and Cheney should be in jail. But they are going after Trump for a misdemeanor that they were able to turn into a felony just this one time. And RFK is currently in 9 lawsuits not just that 1 in NY which was also frivolous. This is not a party of Democracy. They are currently the party against Democracy. They have all of the media, celebrities, big tech, corporations and they are weaponizing all of it including the legal system against their opponents . If they win it's game over. They are too powerful. We need to stop them or at least slow them down. Vote accordingly. Edited August 22 by K D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 19 minutes ago, K D said: They literally tortured people in Guantamo bay. It's all on record. There are pictures. They also invaded a country and overthrew their leader for absolutely no reason and caused thousands and thousands of deaths. Bush and Cheney should be in jail. But they are going after Trump for a misdemeanor that they were able to turn into a felony just this one time. And RFK is currently in 9 lawsuits not just that 1 in NY which was also frivolous. This is not a party of Democracy. They are currently the party against Democracy. They have all of the media, celebrities, big tech, corporations and they are weaponizing all of it including the legal system against their opponents . If they win it's game over. They are too powerful. We need to stop them or at least slow them down. Vote accordingly. Cool story about RFK. He lost. Same thing about Trump. A jury of his peers convicted him. That’s what happens with rule of law. Also, for future reference, an effective method of not being convicted of a crime is not to do crime in the first instance. Maybe you can bring that up at the next MAGA pow wow at mar a lago after everyone gets done trading JD Vance sperm cups, getting down to the best of the 80s, and mocking suckers, losers, basement dwellers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Cool story about RFK. He lost. Same thing about Trump. A jury of his peers convicted him. That’s what happens with rule of law. Also, for future reference, an effective method of not being convicted of a crime is not to do crime in the first instance. Maybe you can bring that up at the next MAGA pow wow at mar a lago after everyone gets done trading JD Vance sperm cups, getting down to the best of the 80s, and mocking suckers, losers, basement dwellers. Yikes you are lost man. I'm not maga I'm just a guy that doesn't have his head so far up his @$$ that he can't see what's going on in the world 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 On 8/21/2024 at 11:30 PM, JaCrispy said: Military Industrial Complex… A Security State, not beholden to the Constitution, that has amassed so much power over the last 75 years, that they dictate to our elected officials… That, coupled with the financing coming from multi billion dollar global corporations, has created a sort of “shadow” government that operates to maintain and increase its own power and control over the globe… And in their eyes, the American politician and citizen exists only to serve the interests of the MIC…And if not, they are either removed or eliminated… So, when I refer to politicians that are Establishment, what I mean is that they serve the interests of the MIC… Why does the Military Industrial Complex want open borders? Seems like they would want just the opposite. Why does the Security State want open borders? Seems like they would want just the opposite. Why does multi billion dollar global corporations want us toe have open borders? Seems like they wouldn't care. When Trump asked for $1 Billion from big oil, aren't they part of "multi billion dollar global corporations"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 19 minutes ago, Scraps said: Why does the Military Industrial Complex want open borders? Seems like they would want just the opposite. Why does the Security State want open borders? Seems like they would want just the opposite. Why does multi billion dollar global corporations want us toe have open borders? Seems like they wouldn't care. When Trump asked for $1 Billion from big oil, aren't they part of "multi billion dollar global corporations"? Their goal is a 1 world government where everyone serves the State, with them in charge, with limited to no individual liberties… They use “freedom” and “democracy@ to get people to go along with it…But make no mistake, the oligarchs financing this ideology seek absolute control… Furthermore, removing borders means you have no country, which, in turn, means you have no Constitution…👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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