Sierra Foothills Posted October 15 Posted October 15 6 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Ray Davis BALLED tonight. He's a dependable runner. He'll get you at least whatever yards are available on any given play and usually a few more. On a related note... does Cook catch that downfield heave? Davis looked great tonight. 3 Quote
wppete Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Ray Davis is clearly the better back. Now it will be interesting to see how Brady uses Davos with Cook. 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, wppete said: Ray Davis is clearly the better back. Now it will be interesting to see how Brady uses Davos with Cook. B.Allen's had some moments but Davis looks like a more complete back. I think because of Allen's physical tools people kind of think he's better but Davis is fundamentally sound on all levels all around good back. To make a baseball analogy Allen is like the pitcher that throws 99-101 consistently but doesn't always have great command and doesn't have too much else in his tool bag just yet. Whereas Davis is the pitcher who tops out around 94/95 but he has much better command and throws a good change up and breaking ball. I think Allen could if he develops his vision, hands, and feel for the game develop into a very good RB but he's not there yet. Whereas I think Davis skillset while it can be polished up seems more "pro-ready" and well rounded thus far. 2 1 Quote
wppete Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, billsfan89 said: B.Allen's had some moments but Davis looks like a more complete back. I think because of Allen's physical tools people kind of think he's better but Davis is fundamentally sound on all levels all around good back. To make a baseball analogy Allen is like the pitcher that throws 99-101 consistently but doesn't always have great command and doesn't have too much else in his tool bag just yet. Whereas Davis is the pitcher who tops out around 94/95 but he has much better command and throws a good change up and breaking ball. I think Allen could if he develops his vision, hands, and feel for the game develop into a very good RB but he's not there yet. Whereas I think Davis skillset while it can be polished up seems more "pro-ready" and well rounded thus far. Yes I agree. Different style backs. Davis is a well rounded back, running and receiving that plays hard. Allen is a big back with potential. Quote
bills6969 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Ray Davis is a stud. Add him to the list of quality draft steals by Beane 2 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 I was really disappointed in Davis thru week 5 as Braelon Allen looked good. Glad to be see Ray Davis step up tonight and show why! Loved everything about him tonight! Great game Rook! Quote
H2o Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, bills6969 said: Ray Davis is a stud. Add him to the list of quality draft steals by Beane He definitely stepped in and came up huge tonight, and against a good defense. 1 Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, bills6969 said: Ray Davis is a stud. Add him to the list of quality draft steals by Beane Reminds me of post-Bills Zach Moss. Maybe with a little Singletary cut back ability. All 3 draft wins! 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted October 15 Posted October 15 12 minutes ago, wppete said: Ray Davis is clearly the better back. Now it will be interesting to see how Brady uses Davos with Cook. He can sit Cook down TBH. If he were a better OC he'd put them both on the field at the same time, but that won't be a thing. 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 24 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Ray Davis BALLED tonight. He was excellent tonight. When Cooke leaves next year he’ll be our starting RB 1 1 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 9 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: B.Allen's had some moments but Davis looks like a more complete back. I think because of Allen's physical tools people kind of think he's better but Davis is fundamentally sound on all levels all around good back. To make a baseball analogy Allen is like the pitcher that throws 99-101 consistently but doesn't always have great command and doesn't have too much else in his tool bag just yet. Whereas Davis is the pitcher who tops out around 94/95 but he has much better command and throws a good change up and breaking ball. I think Allen could if he develops his vision, hands, and feel for the game develop into a very good RB but he's not there yet. Whereas I think Davis skillset while it can be polished up seems more "pro-ready" and well rounded thus far. I like the analogy. I don’t envision us being a team that gives a 2nd contract to a RB… Beane hasn’t yet. Braelon Allen is young and has the POTENTIAL to develop those skills, but it doesn’t make sense seeing he’ll have developed those skills around when he’s hitting free agency. Ray Davis is more polished, albeit older, but it doesn’t matter. He’s in Buffalo for 4 years. Quote
Sweats Posted October 15 Posted October 15 8 hours ago, TFBillsfan said: I was really disappointed in Davis thru week 5 as Braelon Allen looked good. Glad to be see Ray Davis step up tonight and show why! Loved everything about him tonight! Great game Rook! Our coaching staff didn't utilize Davis the proper way. Ray is the type of back that needs lots of carries to get a rhythm, not just to come in once in a while to spell off Cook.....that's not going to work for his running and work ethic. He needs to be force fed the ball. Quote
NewEra Posted October 15 Posted October 15 8 hours ago, Turbo44 said: He was excellent tonight. When Cooke leaves next year he’ll be our starting RB He won’t be leaving next year. He’ll be leaving in 2026 5 minutes ago, Sweats said: Our coaching staff didn't utilize Davis the proper way. Ray is the type of back that needs lots of carries to get a rhythm, not just to come in once in a while to spell off Cook.....that's not going to work for his running and work ethic. He needs to be force fed the ball. I don’t think he needs to be force fed, rather just needs an opening. He had very few holes prior to yesterday 1 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Davis looked good, but he's more Singletary-esque than a feature back I think. Regardless, he's turning into a very quality #2 RB. 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted December 5 Posted December 5 On 10/14/2024 at 8:46 PM, wppete said: Ray Davis is clearly the better back. Now it will be interesting to see how Brady uses Davos with Cook. Davos? Davos Touchdownopolous? 3 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted December 5 Posted December 5 (edited) Ray Davis is a legitimate RB 1 on many teams and is an all purpose RB. He can do everything at a high level. Has underrated breakaway speed too. His vision, quickness and ability to play between the tackles and bounce it outside is really good. Again his breakaway speed and speed to the outside is underrated and much better than singletary I thought he was the best RB in the draft and he only slipped because of his age. I loved the pick and was high fivin my brother when we drafted him. Clear starter in 26. Has Tomlinson and a little Thurman in his game Edited December 5 by Kelly to Allen 1 Quote
Robert Paulson Posted December 5 Posted December 5 2 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: Ray Davis is a legitimate RB 1 on many teams and is an all purpose RB. He can do everything at a high level. Has underrated breakaway speed too. His vision, quickness and ability to play between the tackles and bounce it outside is really good. Again his breakaway speed and speed to the outside is underrated and much better than singletary I thought he was the best RB in the draft and he only slipped because of his age. I loved the pick and was high fivin my brother when we drafted him. Clear starter in 26. Has Tomlinson and a little Thurman in his game Not sure he has the top end speed Cook has but he rubs hard through the tackles 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted December 5 Posted December 5 Just now, Robert Paulson said: Not sure he has the top end speed Cook has but he rubs hard through the tackles Cook is faster. Just saying Davis has borderline breakaway speed and can absolutely outrun linebackers and safeties. He ran like 4.50 flat and has real outside speed unlike Singletary. I like singletary but he was very limited after 10-15 yds Davis has a legitimate second gear 2 Quote
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