Camp Battles - Stock Up or Stock Down

[GASabresIUFan]

Stock Up:  (Rousseau and Oliver were in mid-season form today)

Here are some guys who I thought helped their cause today

1) Ray Davis

2) Frank Gore Jr.

3) Hardy

4) Ingram

5) Andreessen

6) Q. Morris

7) Z Davidson

8.) Bass - 3 for 3 baby!

9) Jonathan

10) Martin - 6 punts - 52.8 yard average

 

Stock down:

1) Trubisky - at least 2 of the sacks were his fault for not getting the ball out quick enough.

2) Hamler 

3) Shavers

4) Shorter 

5) Edwards (OL)

6) Collins (OL) He looks done.

 

I think Jonathan, Ingram, and Hardy did a great deal today to help earn jobs on the 53 man roster.  Andreessen may have played his way onto the practice squad.  

 

I'm bullish on Shakir, Samuel and Kincaid, but Hollins, MVS and Coleman have not impressed so far.  Coleman has an "excuse," but Hollins and MVS don't.  The good news for them is Hamler, Shorter and Shavers haven’t done much either.  Granted Trubisky is throwing the ball to them, but I'm not really seeing them get open much.  I hate to say this but Davidson looks better than any of the depth WRs.  

Edited August 18 by GASabresIUFan

[skibum]

9 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Stock Up:  (Rousseau and Oliver were in mid-season form today)

Here are some guys who I thought helped their cause today

 

8.) Bass - 3 for 3 baby!

 

I don't know about Bass.... Yes, 3 for 3 but they were chip shots and two went in at funny angles. That almost seems to be how he prefers to kick them - Is it just me, or does he almost never kick the ball straight ahead? It's terrifying. 

Edited August 18 by skibum

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I feel like people are writing off Darrynton Evans. He has looked pretty good running the ball. I wonder if he could displace Ty Johnson?

[GASabresIUFan]

12 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I feel like people are writing off Darrynton Evans. He has looked pretty good running the ball. I wonder if he could displace Ty Johnson?

Zero chance.  Only an injury to one of the top 3 could open the door for Evans or Gore.  Evans is probably fighting Gore  for a PS gig. 
 

The Bills like what they got from Johnson last season and he’ll probably take over the kickoff returner duties in the regular season. He played only a few snaps against Pit as he is coming back from injury.  

[Bills Fan of St Augustine]

10 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Stock Up:  (Rousseau and Oliver were in mid-season form today)

Here are some guys who I thought helped their cause today

1) Ray Davis

2) Frank Gore Jr.

3) Hardy

4) Ingram

5) Andreessen

6) Q. Morris

7) Z Davidson

8.) Bass - 3 for 3 baby!

9) Jonathan

10) Martin - 6 punts - 52.8 yard average

 

Stock down:

1) Trubisky - at least 2 of the sacks were his fault for not getting the ball out quick enough.

2) Hamler 

3) Shavers

4) Shorter 

5) Edwards (OL)

6) Collins (OL) He looks done.

7) Epinesa - seems to be struggling against 2nd/3rd stringers??

 

I think Jonathan, Ingram, and Hardy did a great deal today to help earn jobs on the 53 man roster.  Andreessen may have played his way onto the practice squad.  

 

I'm bullish on Shakir, Samuel and Kincaid, but Hollins, MVS and Coleman have not impressed so far.  Coleman has an "excuse," but Hollins and MVS don't.  The good news for them is Hamler, Shorter and Shavers have done much either.  Granted Trubisky is throwing the ball to them, but I'm not really seeing them get open much.  I hate to say this but Davidson looks better than any of the depth WRs.  

I agree with a lot of what you have here. Gore looks far down the charts and Hardy didn't make plays.

[GASabresIUFan]

1 hour ago, Bills Fan of St Augustine said:

I agree with a lot of what you have here. Gore looks far down the charts and Hardy didn't make plays.

The list isn’t just about who makes the team, it’s who played well to help their status.  Gore certainly helped himself earn a PS job.  I thought he looked better than Evans.  
 

Hardy got all the reps as the punt returner and broke a 31 yard return.  He also got significant time at corner.  This usage shows that he has solidified a roster spot.  He also did a decent job at CB.  

Edited August 18 by GASabresIUFan

[MikePJ76]

Hardy, Ingram, Davidson and Andressen looked like NFL players last night.

 

Ray Davis has shown enough that I would not even play him in the next game.  There is no need.

 

Solomon looks like a player to me also but its a long season and its risky to cut a guy like Jonathan for Solomon knowing that he is going to go through the rookie wall at some point.  

 

Those last few defensive line spots are going to be tricky and I think the offensive line spots are going to be very tricky also.  Offensive lineman get signed when they are waived.  Unlike WR, RB and Tight End where every team has the same types of athletes who get cut so you can sign your own guys back to the practice squad, Offenisve Line is the spot teams are digging deep on every roster to find players.  

 

 

[That's No Moon]

I'm not as bullish on Jonathan as you are. He lost contain several times and didn't really make an impact until that last series when Lord knows who was playing tackle for the Steelers.

[GASabresIUFan]

3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

I'm not as bullish on Jonathan as you are. He lost contain several times and didn't really make an impact until that last series when Lord knows who was playing tackle for the Steelers.

The Bills have already seen Jonathan play in real NFL games last season and know what he brings.  They are likely going to keep both Jonathan and Solomon as they probably can’t cut either one and they like to rotate pass rushers.  It helps their cause that Smoot can also play tackle.  Because of Smoot’s versatility, the Bills probably only keep 4 DTs.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

23 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Zero chance.  Only an injury to one of the top 3 could open the door for Evans or Gore.  Evans is probably fighting Gore  for a PS gig. 
 

The Bills like what they got from Johnson last season and he’ll probably take over the kickoff returner duties in the regular season. He played only a few snaps against Pit as he is coming back from injury.  

I am pretty sure you are right. Don’t get me wrong— I am a huge Ty fan. I was a proponent of getting him more carries last year.

 

But Evans has looked shockingly good. He has actually shown the most elusiveness of any of our backs. 

[Robert Paulson]

1 hour ago, skibum said:

I don't know about Bass.... Yes, 3 for 3 but they were chip shots and two went in at funny angles. That almost seems to be how he prefers to kick them - Is it just me, or does he almost never kick the ball straight ahead? It's terrifying. 

My wife and I discussed this after watching the Chiefs Lions game. Butker puts it straight through the middle no matter where the ball is placed.

 

Bass always looks like a rugby kick at an angle squeaking inside the uptight.

 

Can't tell if he makes it half the time except when he duck hooks it and I immediately start  cursing. 

[GASabresIUFan]

16 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

My wife and I discussed this after watching the Chiefs Lions game. Butker puts it straight through the middle no matter where the ball is placed.

 

Bass always looks like a rugby kick at an angle squeaking inside the uptight.

 

Can't tell if he makes it half the time except when he duck hooks it and I immediately start  cursing. 

It will be interesting to see if the Bills sign a PK to the practice squad.  

[BobD]

6 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

I'm not as bullish on Jonathan as you are. He lost contain several times and didn't really make an impact until that last series when Lord knows who was playing tackle for the Steelers.

Agree on Jonathan. You are spot on with his lack of contain, setting the edge. I saw at least two times that Fields got outside of him because he pursues the fake to the running back. 

[That's No Moon]

6 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

The Bills have already seen Jonathan play in real NFL games last season and know what he brings. 

They've also cut him before, drafted Solomon AND had Jonathan playing on the last drive of the game with all of the bottom tier linemen.

5 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

It will be interesting to see if the Bills sign a PK to the practice squad.  

I think this is prudent to do anyway just to have a you you are comfortable with who is also comfortable with the conditions if you have an injury.