SectionC3 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, K D said: If my business failed I would do something else. I would never sit around and do nothing like what Dems on welfare do. You can give them free school free everything and they will never change. They have no interest in doing anything except playing video games and doing drugs. I've seen it first hand. It's a cultural problem that is only further enhanced with government incentives to not work. Socialism never works. Oddly your views are how I feel about MAGA. Pretty much hits it on the head. There’s probably more white people (the “poor whites,” as Dave Chappelle calls them) receiving public benefits than any other demographic. Quit whining about insulin and Mexicans taking the jobs that you can’t or won’t do anyways, get off the couch, and get to work. It’s not the government’s fault they’re losers.
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Oddly your views are how I feel about MAGA. Pretty much hits it on the head. There’s probably more white people (the “poor whites,” as Dave Chappelle calls them) receiving public benefits than any other demographic. Quit whining about insulin and Mexicans taking the jobs that you can’t or won’t do anyways, get off the couch, and get to work. It’s not the government’s fault they’re losers. Comprehension isnt your strong suit. Its amazing how the left goes back and forth from Per capita, to raw numbers based on who they want to attack.
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Motorin' said: What does social security and Medicaid have to do with Kamala's insane ideas about price caps on groceries and implementing equity as the equality of outcomes within an economic frame work? And why would I be a hypocrite if I take the Social Security payments that were taken out of my paycheck my whole life? That's the stupidest thing anyone as said on this board. Sure, take 6% of my money every year for my whole life for retirement and then and call me a hypocrite if I want any part of it back. You could always give it back if you’re so adamantly against socialism. Same thing with the whining about inflation. That’s a function of capitalism, whether MAGA wants to admit it or not. Personally, I think price caps are a bad idea. But both sides are trending toward greater government involvement in the economy in the context of the inflation conversation. Just now, Tommy Callahan said: Comprehension isnt your strong suit. Its amazing how the left goes back and forth from Per capita, to raw numbers based on who they want to attack. Hoax. Also, no eye roll this time from Tommy Eyerolls? Maybe you’re one of the ones on welfare and this point hit a little too close to home. 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Also, no eye roll this time from Tommy Eyerolls? Maybe you’re one of the ones on welfare and this point hit a little too close to home. Oh damn. now your devolved into attacking people based on income. While the policies you rage for, create more people in poverty. you guys would have nothing if it wasn't for the nonstop hypocrisy and projection. Edited August 19 by Tommy Callahan
Motorin' Posted August 19 Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You could always give it back if you’re so adamantly against socialism. Same thing with the whining about inflation. That’s a function of capitalism, whether MAGA wants to admit it or not. Personally, I think price caps are a bad idea. But both sides are trending toward greater government involvement in the economy in the context of the inflation conversation. 1
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Oh damn. now your devolved into attacking people based on income. While the policies you rage for, create more people in poverty. you guys would have nothing if it wasn't for the nonstop hypocrisy and projection. Looks like I was right about the welfare thing. Get off the couch and get a job. 1
K D Posted August 19 Posted August 19 14 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Oddly your views are how I feel about MAGA. Pretty much hits it on the head. There’s probably more white people (the “poor whites,” as Dave Chappelle calls them) receiving public benefits than any other demographic. Quit whining about insulin and Mexicans taking the jobs that you can’t or won’t do anyways, get off the couch, and get to work. It’s not the government’s fault they’re losers. Not sure what MAGAs you know. They have boat parades and car shows. Stuff that costs more than most people's houses I saw a funny video recently where this black lady said that she didn't know you got to choose sides, she thought if you were poor you were a Democrat and Republicans were only rich white people. Then she found out she can choose to be a Republican and she's like why wouldn't everyone choose this side? Everyone wants to be rich. Nobody wants to be poor and on welfare in a rundown Dem city. 1
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, K D said: Not sure what MAGAs you know. They have boat parades and car shows. Stuff that costs more than most people's houses I saw a funny video recently where this black lady said that she didn't know you got to choose sides, she thought if you were poor you were a Democrat and Republicans were only rich white people. Then she found out she can choose to be a Republican and she's like why wouldn't everyone choose this side? Everyone wants to be rich. Nobody wants to be poor and on welfare in a rundown Dem city. Or in a rural wasteland like West Virginia. The strongest of MAGA strongholds. The MAGAs I know spent more money than they had, don’t work nearly as hard as they think, and blame other people for problems brought about by their own laziness, waste, and gluttony. Instead of looking inwardly they blame Mexico, and Democrats, and welfare, and a variety of other things. Most of the MAGA around here are in places like Cheektowaga, or West Seneca, or the boonies. They want to live in Clarence or Amherst or Orchard Park, or have more money to waste on nicer stuff, but things didn’t work out for them and now it’s time to blame others. Sure, there’s MAGA here and there who are relatively successful. But the vast majority are the poor and paycheck to paycheck whites. They should have made better choices and they should stop blaming other people for their problems. Their issues are not mine, and I’m not going to look to a border wall, or some phony con man, as a solution to personal failings. 1 1
K D Posted August 19 Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Or in a rural wasteland like West Virginia. The strongest of MAGA strongholds. The MAGAs I know spent more money than they had, don’t work nearly as hard as they think, and blame other people for problems brought about by their own laziness, waste, and gluttony. Instead of looking inwardly they blame Mexico, and Democrats, and welfare, and a variety of other things. Most of the MAGA around here are in places like Cheektowaga, or West Seneca, or the boonies. They want to live in Clarence or Amherst or Orchard Park, or have more money to waste on nicer stuff, but things didn’t work out for them and now it’s time to blame others. Sure, there’s MAGA here and there who are relatively successful. But the vast majority are the poor and paycheck to paycheck whites. They should have made better choices and they should stop blaming other people for their problems. Their issues are not mine, and I’m not going to look to a border wall, or some phony con man, as a solution to personal failings. In OP and EA it's all Trump signs. Don't think I've even seen a Harris sign. When is the Harris boat parade? I was on a Chaparral that cost more than my first house. As for WV, Dems are closing the mines and fracking operations so where are they supposed to work? I'm sure they are open to options. Nothing gets manufactured here anymore. I'm done with globalism. Time to focus on America. 1
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, K D said: In OP and EA it's all Trump signs. Don't think I've even seen a Harris sign. When is the Harris boat parade? I was on a Chaparral that cost more than my first house. As for WV, Dems are closing the mines and fracking operations so where are they supposed to work? I'm sure they are open to options. Nothing gets manufactured here anymore. I'm done with globalism. Time to focus on America. They’re gonna have to move. Those are dying industries. It’s capitalism. Elect leaders with the smarts to diversify and get a different result. You’re wrong about OP and EA. EA is blue. OP … I’ve seen maybe three Trump signs. A handful of flags, too, to be fair. But less than 10 total. And Im fairly certain Trump lost OP on both 16 and 20 (but not entirely sure of that). As far as the boat parades go, they’re lame. Harris supporters go to her events - in huge numbers.
The Frankish Reich Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, K D said: In OP and EA it's all Trump signs. Don't think I've even seen a Harris sign. When is the Harris boat parade? I was on a Chaparral that cost more than my first house. As for WV, Dems are closing the mines and fracking operations so where are they supposed to work? I'm sure they are open to options. Nothing gets manufactured here anymore. I'm done with globalism. Time to focus on America. It depends where you live. I'm in Colorado. This is the classic purple state turned blue. In the metro areas along the Front Range (Denver suburbs/Colorado Springs), the MAGA supporters are generally doing well. They are the small business owners, the contractors, etc. In the suburbs at least, Trump supporters strike me as better off economically than Democrats. Go into the more rural areas and a lot of Trump support is more of the WV type. This is a strange coalition of course. But so are the Democrats these days with a combination of the largely white/highly educated in the cities and inner suburbs and the generally much poorer minority groups in the cities. 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19 Posted August 19 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: This is a strange coalition of course. But so are the Democrats these days with a combination of the largely white/highly educated in the cities and inner suburbs and the generally much poorer minority groups in the cities. So in 2020 it was the youth that saved the DEMS. Right now, Dems have a very expensive targeting program, for uneducated youth. Thats the vote the left will need again if they win. and why its being targeted.
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Maybe this is the inverse of 2016. I view that election not as Trump having “won,” but as Hillary having lost. Now, perhaps it is that people view Harris favorably in part because she evokes joy (a rare thing in this country since 2016), and in part because she’s not the weird, deluded narcissist on the other side.
Doc Posted August 19 Posted August 19 6 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: The left is pandering to ignorance with this economic policy. So you mean their base. 1
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