K D Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Kommie-la is my favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 hours ago, Doc said: I don't get the "Kamabla" nickname? Same here. Why is it a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 The sad thing is that you're convinced this is how politics should work. Thanks, Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 9 hours ago, K D said: Kommie-la is my favorite My favorite is that you're giving back your social security and Medicare benefits because you're against socialism. You should let everyone else here know how to do that so that the "anti-commies" can do the same. On 8/16/2024 at 12:28 PM, BillsFanNC said: Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 On 8/16/2024 at 11:44 AM, Tommy Callahan said: yeah. This supply side directly to the fortune 500, isn't working for most. As that's what the prescription drug cost plan is as well. her ideas will mostly hurt the folks in the middle and bottom and drive cost up more. Demand side would put the money/demand in the pocketbooks of the majority. You mean trickle down, right? That's sort of the point. Historically the Republican economic approach has been trickle down. GHWB called it "voodoo economics." Trump is a Populist in many ways, but his economic theory has trickle down components. The large tax cut for the rich, for example, is one of them. The tax hike on imports, stupid as it may be, probably is another. Trickle down doesn't work, but now the working folks who support Trump are voting for it. The joke's on you if he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 24 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You mean trickle down, right? That's sort of the point. Historically the Republican economic approach has been trickle down. GHWB called it "voodoo economics." Trump is a Populist in many ways, but his economic theory has trickle down components. The large tax cut for the rich, for example, is one of them. The tax hike on imports, stupid as it may be, probably is another. Trickle down doesn't work, but now the working folks who support Trump are voting for it. The joke's on you if he wins. Trickle down is a talking point for people that don't grasp economics. Current supply side is direct state spending to the fortune 500, not main Street. That's not working, but go ahead and call it trickle down. Demand side puts the people in the driver's seat of the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 On 8/16/2024 at 2:07 PM, BillsFanNC said: Humm, you don’t say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: My favorite is that you're giving back your social security and Medicare benefits because you're against socialism. You should let everyone else here know how to do that so that the "anti-commies" can do the same. Weird. Social security is a scam. If you invested that money instead you wouldn't need the government's help. What kind of investment do you put money into every paycheck and only get back what you put in? They are getting rich off of us. Are you a child? Do you need the government to take care of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 43 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Trickle down is a talking point for people that don't grasp economics. Current supply side is direct state spending to the fortune 500, not main Street. That's not working, but go ahead and call it trickle down. Demand side puts the people in the driver's seat of the economy. I don't disagree. And yet you vote for Trump. Tax cuts for the wealthy! Corporate tax breaks! Raise prices on consumers! All your guy. Keep voting against your own interest. 4 minutes ago, K D said: Social security is a scam. If you invested that money instead you wouldn't need the government's help. What kind of investment do you put money into every paycheck and only get back what you put in? They are getting rich off of us. Are you a child? Do you need the government to take care of you? Who is that exactly? Also, I don't need social security. Not a dime of it. But most of the people who read this probably do. And, what appears to be your point about privatizing social security was discussed up until about 9/11. At that point even Republicans realized that market volatility made that privatization idea a bad plan. So, bottom line, you don't believe in Social Security. But you're not going to renounce it. And you're not giving back Medicare benefits. So either you're not a principled person, or you partake in benefits of programs grounded in elements of socialism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Tax cuts for the wealthy! Corporate tax breaks! Raise prices on consumers! It's called demand side. Every worker got a tax break. Most corporations are not the fortune 500. Inflation, yeah. Something about a few trillion in spending(debt) directly to the fortune 500 can have that affect. You really don't grasp the topics your raging on. Not a good look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 11 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Tax cuts for the wealthy! Corporate tax breaks! Raise prices on consumers! It's called demand side. Every worker got a tax break. Most corporations are not the fortune 500. Inflation, yeah. Something about a few trillion in spending(debt) directly to the fortune 500 can have that affect. You really don't grasp the topics your raging on. Not a good look. Hoax. "Every worker got a tax break." But the rich folks got more. Way, way more. Which is what happens in the supply side system that you vote for. By definition, most corporations are not Fortune 500. Yet they got breaks that, in theory, could have gone to the worker. More supply side. Keep voting against your own interests. Also, it's "you're," not "your." Maybe instead of doing the eye roll thing you can peruse a copy of Strunk & White. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 This is a riveting thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Trickle down is a talking point for people that don't grasp economics. Current supply side is direct state spending to the fortune 500, not main Street. That's not working, but go ahead and call it trickle down. Demand side puts the people in the driver's seat of the economy. Ahh the trickle down theory of economics! Thomas Sowell is still alive so I'm certain that the prize money still awaits from decades ago if anyone can show him any economist / politician who put forth the trickle down theory. Massive straw man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Ahh the trickle down theory of economics! Thomas Sowell is still alive so I'm certain that the prize money still awaits from decades ago if anyone can show him any economist / politician who put forth the trickle down theory. Massive straw man. I mean google am I right Trickel down P.S. Obama is against "trickle down economics" in those quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: I don't disagree. And yet you vote for Trump. Tax cuts for the wealthy! Corporate tax breaks! Raise prices on consumers! All your guy. Keep voting against your own interest. Who is that exactly? Also, I don't need social security. Not a dime of it. But most of the people who read this probably do. And, what appears to be your point about privatizing social security was discussed up until about 9/11. At that point even Republicans realized that market volatility made that privatization idea a bad plan. So, bottom line, you don't believe in Social Security. But you're not going to renounce it. And you're not giving back Medicare benefits. So either you're not a principled person, or you partake in benefits of programs grounded in elements of socialism. I own a business and can "retire" at any time. I don't need any help from anyone, especially the government. I worked for someone until my 30's and instead of that money going into social security and 401k I could have used that to start my business. Socialism is assuming we are all lumped in together as the "working class." It shouldn't be a one size fits all solution and the absolute last people on earth I would trust with my money is the government. They have already proven to be completely incompetent and untrustworthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Also, I'm already planning on never getting that social security money. They are either going to go bankrupt by then or they will say if you have X amount saved for retirement then you don't get anything or you get less and less amounts depending on need. They are already going to raise the age, that's a given. It's not if it's when. I fully expect it to be age 70 in the very near future. "It's my money and I want it now!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 The left is pandering to ignorance with this economic policy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, K D said: I own a business and can "retire" at any time. I don't need any help from anyone, especially the government. I worked for someone until my 30's and instead of that money going into social security and 401k I could have used that to start my business. Socialism is assuming we are all lumped in together as the "working class." It shouldn't be a one size fits all solution and the absolute last people on earth I would trust with my money is the government. They have already proven to be completely incompetent and untrustworthy. And if your business failed, or if you invested poorly, where would you be? Welfare? Living at your kids’ house? Social security is designed to prevent that. I question the investment acumen and work ethic of much of MAGA. Maybe they can take care of each other if social security goes away. But right now I’d rather have a program that allows them to afford their own trailer, video games, and booze in their golden years. Edited August 19 by SectionC3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 14 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: And if your business failed, or if you invested poorly, where would you be? Welfare? Living at your kids’ house? Social security is designed to prevent that. I question the investment acumen and work ethic of much of MAGA. Maybe they can take care of each other if social security goes away. But right now I’d rather have a program that allows them to afford their own trailer, video games, and booze in their golden years. If my business failed I would do something else. I would never sit around and do nothing like what Dems on welfare do. You can give them free school free everything and they will never change. They have no interest in doing anything except playing video games and doing drugs. I've seen it first hand. It's a cultural problem that is only further enhanced with government incentives to not work. Socialism never works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 4 hours ago, SectionC3 said: My favorite is that you're giving back your social security and Medicare benefits because you're against socialism. You should let everyone else here know how to do that so that the "anti-commies" can do the same. Weird. What does social security and Medicaid have to do with Kamala's insane ideas about price caps on groceries and implementing equity as the equality of outcomes within an economic frame work? And why would I be a hypocrite if I take the Social Security payments that were taken out of my paycheck my whole life? That's the stupidest thing anyone as said on this board. Sure, take 6% of my money every year for my whole life for retirement and then and call me a hypocrite if I want any part of it back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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