Bills at Steelers Joint Practice 8/15/24

[JerseyBills]

7 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Mcdermott has history of sticking with guys  after they’ve already proven they can’t play meaningful snaps.  

It's like me drafting Najee in fantasy back to back years, I love the potential but he has proven nada.. At least not for a 1st/2nd rder

Edited August 16 by JerseyBills

[The Helmet of]

48 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Gonna be near impossible to enforce the health component. If the NFL cared about player safety and the quality of the product they would do the following. 

1. Add a second bye week, allows players with nagging injuries to get some additional in season rest while also adding in a longer season which should help the NFL pad out their media rights packages. 
2. Expand rosters to 60 players and no players required to be inactive. Having 7 additional roster spots and no inactive minimums allows teams to add a little more depth sprinkling in 7 additional roster spots allows players to not feel the need to "go out there" because there aren't enough backups. Suring up the roster numbers to add some extra third stringers makes the act of attrition that is the regular season a bit less tough to get through. 
3. Get rid of OTA's but include a 10-12 day "warm up" period in mid-July right before camp (this one may actually happen both sides seem to want it). 

But we all know the NFL just views the players as meat they throw into a grinder knowing there is a whole line of people lining up to be thrown into the grinder.

The NFLPA should demand 100% grass fields in all stadiums and practice fields as a negotiating chip for the 18 game season.
 

FIFA already has this rule and the World Cup (which will be played in US football

stadiums) will be converting their fields to comply with it because the FIFA tournament is a cash cow. It’s common knowledge in the soccer world that artificial turf leads to more injuries. 

 

The problem is natural

turf fields are expensive to maintain and some owners don’t want to pay for it. 

 

Glad that Pegula is not one of the cheapos in this regard. Hopefully injuries will go down in the long run in the new grass field stadium.

Edited August 16 by MarkKelso'sHelmet

[Sierra Foothills]

32 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

The NFLPA should demand 100% grass fields in all stadiums and practice fields as a negotiating chip for the 18 game season.

 

Glad that Pegula is not one of the cheapos in this regard. Hopefully injuries will go down in the long run in the new grass field stadium.

 

To you first point I believe that the players would ask for a higher percentage of revenues before any improvement in working conditions.

 

To your second point I believe that Pegula went with the grass field as a concession to placate those who wanted a domed stadium.

 

On both counts, JMO.

 

[Saxum]

On 8/15/2024 at 2:29 PM, Mango said:

 

I will continue to bang the drum that this sport and the players health continue to suffer from lack of practice time. I have no issues eliminating/cutting back padded practices. But there is zero reason why these guys can't be in the building for 30 hours per week for a huge chunk of the offseason working with dieticians, lifting, watching film, running plays in shorts, doing drills etc.

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/do-nfl-players-get-paid-during-preseason/

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NFL Training Camp Salaries Explored

 

Like all things related to the salary cap, the answer to whether NFL players are paid during training camp and the preseason is spelled out in the league’s most recent collective bargaining agreement (CBA), which was ratified in 2020.

 

According to Article 23 of the CBA, veteran players are entitled to per diem payments beginning on the first day of training camp and ending on the final day of camp. In this case, a veteran is defined as a player with at least one season of credited service.

 

During the 2024 season, veteran players will earn $3,200 per week during training camp and the preseason. That figure will increase to $3,500 per week during the 2025 and 2026 seasons.

 

 

Players on roster do not need to work 2nd jobs like they used to and with amount they are being paid they need to put more time in.

 

IMO money needs to be tweaked to make training camp / practices be more important to players even if it needs to come out of salary cap. The coaches sometimes spend 60+ hours a week.

[Saxum]

17 hours ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

The NFLPA should demand 100% grass fields in all stadiums and practice fields as a negotiating chip for the 18 game season.
 

FIFA already has this rule and the World Cup (which will be played in US football

stadiums) will be converting their fields to comply with it because the FIFA tournament is a cash cow. It’s common knowledge in the soccer world that artificial turf leads to more injuries. 

 

The problem is natural

turf fields are expensive to maintain and some owners don’t want to pay for it. 

 

Glad that Pegula is not one of the cheapos in this regard. Hopefully injuries will go down in the long run in the new grass field stadium.

 

NFLPA should be willing to concede helping to pay for them - they are supposedly partners of NFL but act like divorced spouses caught cheating and demanding more and alimony / palimony. Usually NFLPA resists safety improvements since it may result in lower incentives for players and all grass turf is one which may do so.  St Louis Rams who won Superbowl were called Greatest show on turf for a reason.

[billsfan89]

17 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

To you first point I believe that the players would ask for a higher percentage of revenues before any improvement in working conditions.

 

To your second point I believe that Pegula went with the grass field as a concession to placate those who wanted a domed stadium.

 

On both counts, JMO.

 

 

The players probably/should view the grass fields as a fiscal benefit to them. Less major injuries means players can have longer careers and thus better contracts/more money. 

[The Helmet of]

14 minutes ago, Punching Bag said:

 

NFLPA should be willing to concede helping to pay for them - they are supposedly partners of NFL but act like divorced spouses caught cheating and demanding more and alimony / palimony. Usually NFLPA resists safety improvements since it may result in lower incentives for players and all grass turf is one which may do so.  St Louis Rams who won Superbowl were called Greatest show on turf for a reason.

Supposedly partners? Supposed by whom? They are employees. They don’t have an ownership stake… if you have improvements at your office, do you want to help pay for them?

 

The owners themselves have a financial reason to go to grass, namely a better return on your investment. Fewer injuries means more bang for your buck.

 

Tyreek Hill played in KC and Miami (both grass fields)… he’s still fast…

 

My understanding is that players overwhelmingly prefer grass. Source:

 

 

Finally, if safety is a disincentive, why do players wear helmets at all? Take them off !