Buffalo Sabres and NHL 2024-2025

[May Day 10]

They have a philosophy of rushing most prospects into the nhl with no development.  Adams, pegula, and the other dummies think they will just figure things out.  Not the case.  

it's bad.  Perception of this mess is through the floor.  Its not weather trees and taxes because this is coming from a Minnesota player.

 

Just keep trudging though.  Magically it'll all come together like a Disney movie

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:04 PM by May Day 10

[Mike in Horseheads]

[Dr. Who]

16 hours ago, Simon said:

 

This is exactly what it seems like from my current outside perspective.

I have to wonder if they made a significant effort to add those necessary vets in the offseason and couldn't get anybody on board, hence Adams' palm tree (Hey, I tried) comment.

I hope they don't tear it down prematurely; there has got to be some way to get the handful of vets they need to come on board.

I sort of liken it to the Amari Cooper situation. The addition of a vet or two in the Top 6 (or Top 4 D) would go a long ways to slotting the rest of the group "down" where they actually belong.

Part of the problem is that any vet with a NMC is going to block a trade to the Sabres. I think Pegula's reputation is currently so poor, he'd have to open his wallet and hire a really respected NHL fella and publicly make it clear he's handing the decision making to an established professional. Otherwise, what you're likely going to get is fringe vets that aren't good enough to fill the role that is needed. And Pegula does not want to spend on the Sabres, which sets up an endless cycle of frustration and disappointment.

 

Even with the untenable position they've placed themselves, I'm sure there are trades to be made. Adams is in a pickle, because other teams know the desperate plight of the continuing malaise. He'll have to overpay, and gamble with some of his precious futures. Folks looked at the roster before the season started and nearly everyone could see they needed at least one add to the top 6 and a top 4D. Get Power a stay-at-home solid D and it would make a world of difference. 

 

Bottom line, we are led by dummies. Nice guys, but not bright, and rather arrogant. How many times do they have to fail before they question the wisdom of their plans?

 

Edited Sunday at 07:34 AM by Dr. Who

[May Day 10]

I'm not so sure they are "nice guys" based on what kevyn adams had to stoop to in order to land a position he had no experience to get

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

I'm not so sure they are "nice guys" based on what kevyn adams had to stoop to in order to land a position he had no experience to get

Well, I don't know them personally. Nice or not, TP is the worst hockey owner in the history of the NHL. Adams has not grown into the position. The whole thing is a fiasco. It makes one recognize the good fortune to have landed McDermott and Beane. (Allen, of course, is the most significant driver of success, but he doesn't do it alone.) Folks can complain about the playoff failures -- I do, but the Bills are a well-run organization. 

[BillsFan4]

Last place in the NHL.

[BillsFan4]

8 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I think Pegula's reputation is currently so poor, he'd have to open his wallet and hire a really respected NHL fella and publicly make it clear he's handing the decision making to an established professional.

this ⬆️

 

there is nothing else left to do if he is serious about ever winning and not being a joke franchise.

 

the guy I keep thinking about is Ken Holland. Hire him as President of hockey ops and let him hire a GM. He is one of the most well respected GMs in modern NHL history. He has a stellar reputation in NHL circles. There’s a reason the oilers hired him when it looked like McDavid was nearing his last straw with Edmonton (and it worked). 

 

I don’t even know if he’d take the job but it’s worth a shot. 

[May Day 10]

The solution is so clearly obvious, and unanimously, all observers have the same conclusion.

 

The fact that Pegula cannot or refuses to see this is infuriating.  Like how greedy and selfish can someone be?

[BillsFan4]

11 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

this is coming from a Minnesota player.

A Minnesota player born in Buffalo, NY! His dad played for the Sabres. He also played for the Sabres. Buffalo drafted him and gave him his start in the NHL. Lindy Ruff was his first NHL coach. There was a time he talked about retiring a Sabre. He was sad when he got traded away. Now I would bet money that Buffalo is on his no trade list.

[BillsFan4]

If you want to make yourself irrationally angry, go back and read this interview from when the Pegulas hired Kevyn Adams.

 

https://www.audacy.com/espnrochester/articles/wgr-am-article/pegulas-familiarity-was-a-big-factor-in-the-hiring-of-adams-as-general

 

clueless owners.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

If you want to make yourself irrationally angry, go back and read this interview from when the Pegulas hired Kevyn Adams.

 

https://www.audacy.com/espnrochester/articles/wgr-am-article/pegulas-familiarity-was-a-big-factor-in-the-hiring-of-adams-as-general

 

clueless owners.

God that’s just so depressing 🤮

[May Day 10]

...coming to a football team near you

[Doc]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

...coming to a football team near you

 

What is?

[Fleezoid]

On 12/22/2024 at 10:33 AM, BillsFan4 said:

If you want to make yourself irrationally angry, go back and read this interview from when the Pegulas hired Kevyn Adams.

 

https://www.audacy.com/espnrochester/articles/wgr-am-article/pegulas-familiarity-was-a-big-factor-in-the-hiring-of-adams-as-general

 

clueless owners.

 

".....promote Senior Vice President of Business Administration Kevyn Adams to general manager."

 

When I read that, this is what immediately came to mind...

 

 

[Fleezoid]

Sabres beat Islanders!

 

It's a Christmas Miracle!!

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Unlock Grammy!

!!

 

No way the Sabres blow this lead!

[Doc]

Any stud goaltenders coming out in this next draft?

[SinceThe70s]

18 minutes ago, Doc said:

Any stud goaltenders coming out in this next draft?

 

A stud goaltender, coming out? Not that there's anything wrong with that, just not how I grade draft prospects, lol.

 

For the record I only dropped in to the thread to see comments after my Islanders got pummeled at home so ignore the above and congrats on the W.

[QCity]

Another great article by LeBrun for The Athletic - LeBrun: There are no easy answers for the questions facing Kevyn Adams’ Sabres

 

snippet:

 

"As the Buffalo Sabres have descended into this 0-10-3 tailspin, landing them last in the NHL in points and headed toward a hard-to-fathom 14th straight season missing the playoffs, I keep thinking about the decisions ownership has made in its general manager hires.

 

Tim Murray was GM from January 2014 to April 2017, Jason Botterill from May 2017 to June 2020, and it’s been Kevyn Adams since then.

All three were first-time NHL GMs. That doesn’t mean they weren’t qualified. Everyone has to get their first chance at some point, and especially in the cases of Murray and Botterill, they had worked their way up the NHL scouting and front-office ranks before landing the gig.

 

Regardless, looking at where the franchise is now with the benefit of hindsight, handing the reins to first-time GMs three straight times can’t be glossed over.

Listen, no one is complaining in South Florida about first-time NHL GM Bill Zito, nor in Vegas about first-time NHL GM Kelly McCrimmon. But in Zito’s case, he’s got former GMs Rick Dudley, Paul Fenton and Les Jackson surrounding him in his inner circle. McCrimmon has George McPhee.

 

At the very least — especially with Adams, who is a very likable guy with tremendous passion for the sport — couldn’t the Sabres have brought in some sort of mentor to help him along the way? Like how Jim Rutherford is helping along first-time GM Patrik Allvin in Vancouver?

 

Wouldn’t it have made sense to bring in a Ray Shero or someone of that ilk to help support Adams? (Did I mention that Ken Holland is currently a free agent?)

 

Then there’s this point I made when the team fired Botterill: Giving a GM only three years on the job doesn’t make a lot of sense. I don’t know whether Murray or Botterill would have gotten the Sabres over the playoff hump eventually, but I do know three years wasn’t enough time for either to get a fair crack at it. Any longtime NHL team executive will tell you that it takes at least five years for someone to implement their vision on a franchise, especially for a full rebuild."

[May Day 10]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Any stud goaltenders coming out in this next draft?

 

It doesn't really work like that.

 

Goalies are an odd commodity.   You have to draft and develop several ongoing and they are like lottery tickets.  You get one who pans out, like ullmark, you hang onto him until you have the next cheaper option at the ready from your crop of lottery tickets