SoonerBillsFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, without a drought said: This won't be a tough cut in a few weeks. True, which is my point. Why? We have more than enough WR's / Return men and if we dont' have someone by now that can return a damn football, then whomever is doing the pro scouting needs to be fired. OR.. we fire the crappy ST coach. Quote
The Jokeman Posted August 13 Posted August 13 15 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Why? We already have tough cuts to make. Outside the CB we drafted we don't have many return men options on the current roster. Hamler's performance this weekend raised serious doubts. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Outside the CB we drafted we don't have many return men options on the current roster. Hamler's performance this weekend raised serious doubts. My concern is how can we still after what 8 years, not find a quality return man or 2? It seems we can't evaluate them worth a damn. That, and or, we can't pick a ST Coach worth a damn. I mean ST's seems to be an issue with this regime from top to bottom. Return issues, kicker is a shankopottomus, punter cant punt for crap with any consistency. Maybe we need to just hire an entire new addon staff to just scout those positions. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 13 Posted August 13 17 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Why? We already have tough cuts to make. Which ones are tough? This team is so top heavy right now. There is almost zero competition anywhere on the roster. Which hopefully doesn’t prove to be a bad thing Quote
Logic Posted August 13 Posted August 13 They need bodies for the remainder of the preseason. Samuel Coleman Shakir Hollins Shavers MVS is almost certainly the six they're keeping, unless injury hits or something unexpected happens. 3 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 47 minutes ago, Logic said: They need bodies for the remainder of the preseason. Samuel Coleman Shakir Hollins Shavers MVS is almost certainly the six they're keeping, unless injury hits or something unexpected happens. And not a decent return man among them 1 Quote
Logic Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: And not a decent return man among them Truth. I hope Daequan Hardy ends up taking the job, so they don't have to waste a roster spot elsewhere, since Hardy would also be useful as defensive depth. 4 1 Quote
Utah John Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Why? We already have tough cuts to make. Unfortunately, not so tough. The Bills will end up with some players on the roster who wouldn't usually have made the team. Some of the players who don't make the team wouldn't even sniff training camp a few years ago. From the comments here it sounds like Hamler has been cut. Is that right? But also the Bills had a full set of players, up to the limit for the roster for training camp. How are they bringing on board Byrd and DiNucci? Edited August 13 by Utah John 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 And this regime has tried to bring in specific players for ST's and its failed. At some point something has to change. Quote
Billl Posted August 13 Posted August 13 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: True, which is my point. Why? We have more than enough WR's / Return men and if we dont' have someone by now that can return a damn football, then whomever is doing the pro scouting needs to be fired. OR.. we fire the crappy ST coach. Between the performances of Hamler and MVS and the injuries to Hollins and Claypool, the cuts are the easy part. It’s the keeps that are lacking. 1 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 9 hours ago, SectionC3 said: I agree the wind was bad, and I agree about the explosion. The wind also may have pushed the kickoff that Hamler butchered away from him. Still, that's a "gotta have it" ball, and things are only gonna get worse with respect to the wind and weather. I have no issue with bringing in competition. Our players MUST learn to track the ball in the wind. Quote
Senth Posted August 13 Posted August 13 20 hours ago, warrior9 said: because he's an ex panther good enough for me. Go Bills Quote
Mark Vader Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: And this regime has tried to bring in specific players for ST's and its failed. At some point something has to change. It's failed? 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted August 13 Posted August 13 4 hours ago, Logic said: Samuel Coleman Shakir Hollins Shavers MVS is almost certainly the six they're keeping, unless injury hits or something unexpected happens. Like MVS has more catches than drops? Quote
Pete Posted August 13 Posted August 13 5 hours ago, Logic said: They need bodies for the remainder of the preseason. Samuel Coleman Shakir Hollins Shavers MVS is almost certainly the six they're keeping, unless injury hits or something unexpected happens. I agree. I prefer Zach Davidson over MVS. Zach plays special teams. And can block. MVS does not play special teams. Quote
MJS Posted August 13 Posted August 13 7 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Outside the CB we drafted we don't have many return men options on the current roster. Hamler's performance this weekend raised serious doubts. Is this guy really a returner? He hasn't done it much in his career and when he has, he has had muff problems. 5 hours ago, Logic said: They need bodies for the remainder of the preseason. Samuel Coleman Shakir Hollins Shavers MVS is almost certainly the six they're keeping, unless injury hits or something unexpected happens. If they keep 6... They kept 5 last year, if I recall. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: It's failed? In finding consistent return men, punters and kickers yes. Not overall of course, but Mark you gotta admit ST's have been a crap show for awhile. Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted August 14 Posted August 14 Let’s give Josh Allen some more castoffs/fringe roster players to work with … that’s gonna go well Quote
Mark Vader Posted August 14 Posted August 14 5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: In finding consistent return men, punters and kickers yes. Not overall of course, but Mark you gotta admit ST's have been a crap show for awhile. I have no issues with our Kicker. We had a Punter, and a bunch of falsehoods and lies took him away from us. Return men has been a weird one. Last years special teams was noticeably bad, but for the most part has been sufficient. 1 Quote
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