aristocrat Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It's not your party. It's ours. And we agree that he did the right thing. Rare but honorable. It wasn’t an option 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: It wasn’t an option Did some one put a gun to his head? Threaten to ruin his political career? What was the threat? Whatever strings were pulled, y'all should pull them on trump. Edited August 20 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It's not your party. It's ours. And we agree that he did the right thing. Rare but honorable. Yeah, basically with a gun to his head. Biden DID NOT want to leave the ticket. You know it, I know it and the world knows it. So spare us with Biden did the “honorable” thing. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Did some one put a gun to his head? Threaten to ruin his political career? What was the threat? Whatever strings were pulled, y'all should pull them on trump. There was absolutely nothing anybody could do to stop Biden from running again if he decided to. He could have ignored them all and stayed on the ballot and there was nothing they could do to stop him. But this fact is very inconvenient to people who are upset that they may now actually lose, so they will scrape for any pretense for being upset on behalf of people who are overwhelmingly happy with the outcome. Hacks and fools, all of them. Edited August 20 by ChiGoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: There was absolutely nothing anybody could do to stop Biden from running again if he decided to. He could have ignored them all and stayed on the ballot and there was nothing they could do to stop him. But this fact is very inconvenient to people who are upset that they may now actually lose, so they will scrape for any pretense for being upset on behalf of people who are overwhelmingly happy with the outcome. Hacks and fools, all of them. Delusional. What did they threaten him with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Delusional. What did they threaten him with? They showed him that the numbers were so bad that not only was he almost certainly going to lose, but he was going to bring the entire party down with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Delusional. What did they threaten him with? Do you know? I'm guessing it was the end of democracy and a looming autocratic theocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Do you know? I'm guessing it was the end of democracy and a looming autocratic theocracy. Like we had from 2017-2021? Let’s do that again. 32 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: They showed him that the numbers were so bad that not only was he almost certainly going to lose, but he was going to bring the entire party down with him. Yea sorry that’s not what’s played out since. Biden was threatened - the 25th? Family members will never get jobs? No money for the library? Jill will never be on the View? Seth Rich’d? Edited August 20 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Yea sorry that’s not what’s played out since. Biden was threatened - the 25th? Family members will never get jobs? No money for the library? Jill will never be on the View? Seth Rich’d? The fun thing about the GOP is that they’ve become so terminally online that they spout utter nonsense like this and think it’s rational. Their brains are completely rotted. It’s why they are so weird. It’s also why they should keep shouting this stuff from the rooftop and why Trump should spend as much time as possible on tv. That would be better for the Dems than anything any Dem could do. Biden ran to stop Trump. He ran for reelection to stop Trump. It became clear that he was not likely to succeed and would likely torch his own party in the endeavor. After taking time to cope with this, he did the right thing. But keep smoking what you’re smoking and make sure you tell absolutely everybody you know what your thoughts are. Kamala Harris will thank you for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 54 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It's not your party. It's ours. And we agree that he did the right thing. Rare but honorable. True. One thing you will not hear this week: any Democrat (including the many who voted for him in the primaries) pining for Biden. Please go out and find me one. If you can't, I'm not gonna worry about anyone being "disenfranchised." They exercised their franchise, their candidate dropped out, his second in charge replaced him and will now all of his delegates will vote for her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: True. One thing you will not hear this week: any Democrat (including the many who voted for him in the primaries) pining for Biden. Please go out and find me one. If you can't, I'm not gonna worry about anyone being "disenfranchised." They exercised their franchise, their candidate dropped out, his second in charge replaced him and will now all of his delegates will vote for her. But, but, but, a bunch of people who post pro-Trump stuff all of the time have assured us that the Dems are all mad about Biden dropping out. I’m sure that if you check the polls, they’ll show that the Dem chances have absolutely plummeted since Biden dropped out because Dem voters are spitting mad… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 41 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: There was absolutely nothing anybody could do to stop Biden from running again if he decided to. He could have ignored them all and stayed on the ballot and there was nothing they could do to stop him. But this fact is very inconvenient to people who are upset that they may now actually lose, so they will scrape for any pretense for being upset on behalf of people who are overwhelmingly happy with the outcome. Hacks and fools, all of them. That’s silly. Biden’s family is a mess, his daughter-in-law getting a pass on her misdeeds, his daughter reminisced about some of her odd memories with her dad from childhood, and it’s quite likely Hunter is guilty of much more than we’re hearing about. It seems increasingly likely Biden used his office for financial gain, it is a reasonable assumption that his brother could be targeted for misdeeds in the family business, and Biden is a shell of whatever man he was a decade or two ago. He also left classified document strewn all over the place, which implies he’s a pretty sloppy guy. All it would really take is a threat to his legacy and family. He was rock solid he was running until suddenly, he wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That’s silly. Biden’s family is a mess, his daughter-in-law getting a pass on her misdeeds, his daughter reminisced about some of her odd memories with her dad from childhood, and it’s quite likely Hunter is guilty of much more than we’re hearing about. It seems increasingly likely Biden used his office for financial gain, it is a reasonable assumption that his brother could be targeted for misdeeds in the family business, and Biden is a shell of whatever man he was a decade or two ago. He also left classified document strewn all over the place, which implies he’s a pretty sloppy guy. All it would really take is a threat to his legacy and family. He was rock solid he was running until suddenly, he wasn’t. Funny, you appear to be describing a guy who has no business running for reelection who suddenly came to his senses. UNRELATED: Jill's face is awfully tight for a woman of her age. And is Ashley the messed up daughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That’s silly. Biden’s family is a mess, his daughter-in-law getting a pass on her misdeeds, his daughter reminisced about some of her odd memories with her dad from childhood, and it’s quite likely Hunter is guilty of much more than we’re hearing about. It seems increasingly likely Biden used his office for financial gain, it is a reasonable assumption that his brother could be targeted for misdeeds in the family business, and Biden is a shell of whatever man he was a decade or two ago. He also left classified document strewn all over the place, which implies he’s a pretty sloppy guy. All it would really take is a threat to his legacy and family. He was rock solid he was running until suddenly, he wasn’t. That’s silly. Imagine thinking that after years of the GOP failing to prove that Biden was crooked, it only took a couple of weeks for the Dems to do it. In the real world, all it really took is convincing someone that their legacy would be better if they stepped down now instead of driving their entire party off a cliff. This isn’t hard, people! You don’t need a conspiracy! We all saw the debate, we saw the polls, we saw the people calling for him to step down. Why does the right always need some complicated conspiracy when the simplest explanation makes fits the facts better? The only reason it seemed sudden to anyone who wasn’t paying attention was because he had to be full steam ahead until he was sure he was stepping down. Showing any hesitation was not an option because it would be a death knell if he ended up deciding to go forward with the campaign. But those of us who were hoping he would step down were expecting the decision to appear sudden. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Why does the right always need some complicated conspiracy when the simplest explanation makes fits the facts better? That's no fun, now, is it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: That's no fun, now, is it ... I’m guessing the MSM is using (((Soros))) bucks to confuse the right and make them believe stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Funny, you appear to be describing a guy who has no business running for reelection who suddenly came to his senses. UNRELATED: Jill's face is awfully tight for a woman of her age. And is Ashley the messed up daughter? That is a funny interpretation to be sure. As to mature ladies and facial considerations, I believe you’re looking for a different website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: That’s silly. Imagine thinking that after years of the GOP failing to prove that Biden was crooked, it only took a couple of weeks for the Dems to do it. In the real world, all it really took is convincing someone that their legacy would be better if they stepped down now instead of driving their entire party off a cliff. This isn’t hard, people! You don’t need a conspiracy! We all saw the debate, we saw the polls, we saw the people calling for him to step down. Why does the right always need some complicated conspiracy when the simplest explanation makes fits the facts better? The only reason it seemed sudden to anyone who wasn’t paying attention was because he had to be full steam ahead until he was sure he was stepping down. Showing any hesitation was not an option because it would be a death knell if he ended up deciding to go forward with the campaign. But those of us who were hoping he would step down were expecting the decision to appear sudden. Ah, the Secretly Hoping Society. They were pretty certain that Trump was the only president holding classified documents as I recall, then suddenly became experts on slippage which later morphed into special consideration for electeds. Nice people, a bit naive. It’s entirely possible JB was reading the Secretly Hoping newsletter, where all the Secret Hopers were urging him to rethink his decision. Not probable but possible. But if you prefer the Biden was saying he was running but what he was really saying was he wasn’t running angle, cool. At the end of day, it seems quite clear he was forced to tap out, and there typically is a reason for that sort of thing. Sometimes a velvet glove is used, other times the hammer comes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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