billsbackto81 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 This is interesting and can see it really hindering some teams if refs decide to call it . Dolphins, SF, and KC come to mind. Tua got his bag and now their taking away a big chunk of their offensive scheme. Worthy in KC will be almost "worthless" if he cant use motion to break free. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 They can still run it, they just have to keep their motion player from leaning towards the LOS before the snap. I saw 1-2 uncalled illegal motions a game, regardless of the team last year. It was probably 50-50 run pass, too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 And that was how we were going to ha e Coleman run routes at an NFL speed damn it!!! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Ya it use to be called and then they stopped. The man is moving forward and it’s an advantage for the offense for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: They can still run it, they just have to keep their motion player from leaning towards the LOS before the snap. I saw 1-2 uncalled illegal motions a game, regardless of the team last year. It was probably 50-50 run pass, too. Yeah I agree. I'm glad they're looking at this. McDaniel and the Dolphins last year, with their "cheat motion" stuff, basically dared the league to call their bluff by -- as you mention -- often having players who sure LOOKED like they were moving forward before the snap. The league does indeed appear to be calling their bluff. Good. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: And that was how we were going to ha e Coleman run routes at an NFL speed damn it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 It was always cheating. Good for them for clarifying it, but I don't see how it needed to be clarified. This isn't the CFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 20 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: It was always cheating. Good for them for clarifying it, but I don't see how it needed to be clarified. This isn't the CFL. I know, right? I don't understand this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Bills definitely used the cheat motion last year and got away with it, hopefully Brady’s offense isn’t built around this type of motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Is part of this because of the increase in WR pick plays that also happen now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 There are multiple times a game where receivers are moving forward while in motion or at least slanting forward instead of running across on pretty much every team...it's never called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 The Dolphins used that looping backward motion a lot, which I think made it harder to catch the forward movement prior to the snap. If they call it correctly, aside from screen passes, any backward motion puts you in a slight disadvantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilen Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Here's the direct link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/cheat-motion-is-now-officially-cheating 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Should be reviewable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I was pretty annoyed when seeing receivers moving forward before the snap and not getting flagged for it last year. It is good that it is a focus, but they didn't need a rule change. Just enforce the rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Fleezoid said: The Dolphins used that looping backward motion a lot, which I think made it harder to catch the forward movement prior to the snap. If they call it correctly, aside from screen passes, any backward motion puts you in a slight disadvantage. Yep - or you'd see deebo go further off the LOS in lateral motion to fake the handoff but then turn back towards the LOS well before the snap. In those scenarios, the league is now going to expect you to either stay further off the LOS and continue laterally, or require you to come back to a stop if you are moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: And that was how we were going to ha e Coleman run routes at an NFL speed damn it!!! Maybe we can get an exemption for him! LOL 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 4 hours ago, 0017 said: Bills definitely used the cheat motion last year and got away with it, hopefully Brady’s offense isn’t built around this type of motion. Everyone did, some teams were egregious with it. Miami immediately comes to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Tyreek was killing everybody doing that last year. It’s a definite advantage when you have that type of speed vs a corner who’s standstill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Is this because the players never stopped moving before the snap? Are they supposed to stop or is it a thing where they were going behind the LOS before the snap. I guess I never knew it was cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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