Mr. WEO Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 12 hours ago, Rubes said: Plenty of non-hereditary reasons for clots that are of enough concern that continuing this type of massive contact sport might not be such a good idea. If he's no longer anticoagulated, there is no extra risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Wishing him a speedy recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Barmore is one of my favorite patriots. Dude is a great player, really hope he is able to recover and play again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Go Buffalo Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) I wish him the best! Godspeed! Edited July 29 by Let's Go Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 14 hours ago, Big Turk said: Man...it's not THAT serious. I was on Eliquis for a year, my Dad is on it for life due to DVTs. We have both had small cuts here and there and it was no big deal, maybe took a little longer than normal to stop but we weren't gushing blood for hours. The one issue with Elquis tho is that even tho it is far better than Warfarin in terms of side effects and ease of use is that if you do have a SERIOUS incident like a car crash or something they have no way of reversing it currently like they do with Warfarin. Did it give you headaches and wavy vision? If so, does that go away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: If he's no longer anticoagulated, there is no extra risk. Thanks, doctor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 14 hours ago, Big Turk said: Man...it's not THAT serious. I was on Eliquis for a year, my Dad is on it for life due to DVTs. We have both had small cuts here and there and it was no big deal, maybe took a little longer than normal to stop but we weren't gushing blood for hours. The one issue with Elquis tho is that even tho it is far better than Warfarin in terms of side effects and ease of use is that if you do have a SERIOUS incident like a car crash or something they have no way of reversing it currently like they do with Warfarin. I am betting you don’t play professional contact football for a living. Plus there are multiple possible causes which require investigation. It could be a cardiac lesion , like a valvular issue or unclosed connection between chambers of the heart not detected before ( remember teddy brushci ?). I didn’t see any detail of exactly where he clots were or how they presented clinically. Those factors determine treatment and prognosis. If it’s a simple dvt in a leg , then it’s very straightforward, yet still affects his availability to play for a. Minimum period of at least three months. I didn’t see an exact diagnosis or cause given and this is a professional athlete where head injuries are not uncommon and obviously bleeding into the closed cranial space can be disastrous while on anti coagulation. Forgive me if the exact diagnosis was stated and I missed it , which determines therapy. Until that is know there is no way to know prognosis or treatment length , but it’s pretty obvious this is a POSSIBLE career altering situation for a professional football player. if someone knows the exact underlying diagnosis causing he clotting and any co-morbidities or lack thereof present , only then can they provide any useful/ trustworthy information regarding return to play prognosticators. Hope it’s a simple, straightforward cause and he returns in time to safely resume his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 A coworker of mine just had a P.E. from blood clots in his legs that traveled up after a back surgery. Almost didnt make it. Happened 2 Months ago and he still gasps for air and says he has about 75% lung capacity. So scary, and praying for the man in NE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 57 minutes ago, Rubes said: Thanks, doctor. any time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 39 minutes ago, DrPJax said: I am betting you don’t play professional contact football for a living. Plus there are multiple possible causes which require investigation. It could be a cardiac lesion , like a valvular issue or unclosed connection between chambers of the heart not detected before ( remember teddy brushci ?). I didn’t see any detail of exactly where he clots were or how they presented clinically. Those factors determine treatment and prognosis. If it’s a simple dvt in a leg , then it’s very straightforward, yet still affects his availability to play for a. Minimum period of at least three months. I didn’t see an exact diagnosis or cause given and this is a professional athlete where head injuries are not uncommon and obviously bleeding into the closed cranial space can be disastrous while on anti coagulation. Forgive me if the exact diagnosis was stated and I missed it , which determines therapy. Until that is know there is no way to know prognosis or treatment length , but it’s pretty obvious this is a POSSIBLE career altering situation for a professional football player. if someone knows the exact underlying diagnosis causing he clotting and any co-morbidities or lack thereof present , only then can they provide any useful/ trustworthy information regarding return to play prognosticators. Hope it’s a simple, straightforward cause and he returns in time to safely resume his career. Oh I was in no way talking about a pro athlete playing...I was simply responding to a person saying simple cuts were life threatening...they aren't in the vast majority of people unless there is something REALLY wrong with you. 1 hour ago, CoudyBills said: Did it give you headaches and wavy vision? If so, does that go away? Nope, never got any of that. Honestly didn't cause any sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: If he's no longer anticoagulated, there is no extra risk. He’s going to be on AC during the season my man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 18 hours ago, FireChans said: He’s going to be on AC during the season my man. not the whole season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: not the whole season Spin away but it is bad news for your team as he is one of your best players. I hope he stays healthy. Football is less important than health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 7/30/2024 at 10:42 AM, 4merper4mer said: Football is less important than mental health. take this to heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) On 7/28/2024 at 6:30 PM, Big Turk said: Man...it's not THAT serious. I was on Eliquis for a year, my Dad is on it for life due to DVTs. We have both had small cuts here and there and it was no big deal, maybe took a little longer than normal to stop but we weren't gushing blood for hours. The one issue with Elquis tho is that even tho it is far better than Warfarin in terms of side effects and ease of use is that if you do have a SERIOUS incident like a car crash or something they have no way of reversing it currently like they do with Warfarin. My hematologist said they have one now in case of major emergencies, its called Andexanet alfa Edited July 31 by SoonerBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: My hematologist said they have one now in case of major emergencies, its called Andexanet alfa Oh nice! That must be new because when I was taking it they told me there wasn't anything if that happened. Now there really isn't any reason to be on Warfarin or Coumadin since Eliquis effects are very short in terms of coming off of it for any type of surgery, etc...think you go back to normal in 24-48 hours instead of weeks like the other ones. Edited July 31 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: My hematologist said they have one now in case of major emergencies, its called Andexanet alfa Just now, Big Turk said: Oh nice! That must be new because when I was taking it they told me there wasn't anything if that happened. I heard about it being available years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, Doc said: I heard about it being available years ago. Looks like it was approved by the FDA in 2018...which was after I was on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I fouled a ball off of my leg in college, the lump swelled up a lot. I continued to play on it. The swelling went down to a little lump by the next game the following day...ots of bruising. I was in left field and I just remember around the 3rd inning, my leg was tingling and starting to get really numb. Our Team Trainer told me to go to the hospital. I went there and the ER doc took a scalpel, opened up the lump and was pulling out solid strings of blood. I can't believe a simple lump caused all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 15 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Looks like it was approved by the FDA in 2018...which was after I was on it. Sounds about when I first heard it was available (I was thinking about 5 years ago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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