HOUSE Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) Career Stats Passing attempts 3,073 Completions 1,436 Completion % 46.7% TD-INTS 114-183 Passing yards 21,218 Passer rating 57.3 2x AFL champs 2x AFL MVP 5x First team All AFL 7 time AFL All Star https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kemp Edited July 28 by HOUSE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) About the same as Tua Edited July 28 by DJB 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Top 5. Can’t compare stats though because receivers could get mugged back then under the rules. Kemp would be a Josh-like guy with a great arm and running ability. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Stadium Original Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 The AFL in 1965 1st Down: Fullback up the middle for 1 yard 2nd Down: Halfback sweep with lead block by fullback for 2 yards 3rd Down: Try that fullback thing up the middle again 4th Down: Punt ....repeat...... Throwing the ball is strictly an emergency procedure. Just a different era and almost an entirely different game. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Interesting idea. I never saw him play. Those that Maybe have what was his style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 I'd give him $65 per year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 People get on Allen for his picks. These guys three picks like it was fun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Top 5. Can’t compare stats though because receivers could get mugged back then under the rules. Kemp would be a Josh-like guy with a great arm and running ability. TRUE: "Can’t compare stats though because receivers could get mugged back then under the rules." FALSE: "Top 5... Kemp would be a Josh-like guy with a great arm and running ability." Kemp was a tough player and a great leader according to those who played with him. But his accuracy and completion percentage were bad even for his era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 He's dead, so... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) Being a 7 time AFL all star and 5 time first team all AFL shows that he was an elite QB among his peers. There's no comparing the game back then to today, or the players, even. But, he was elite for his time, at least in the AFL. He was 6'1" and 201 pounds, so he would be on the smaller side as a QB today. He had 40 career rushing TDs when he retired, though, which was 2nd among QB's back then and still 5th all time today. So, I imagine him as a Russel Wilson type QB. But, he is way before my time. I've only seen the odd highlight here or there. Edited July 28 by MJS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 I saw him play back in the mi 1960s. He wasn’t a running QB. Never ever ran an option or QB power. He was a classic dropback QB and an OK scrambler. He didn’t have a strong arm and was an ok passer. He was a good leader and his teammates seemed to respond to him. Best comp would be Kirk cousins, but without cousins accuracy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 In the modern NFL, most QBs get paid the same if they're seen as a franchise guy. They're all within the top 5-7 contracts whenever theyre up for a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, pennstate10 said: I saw him play back in the mi 1960s. He wasn’t a running QB. Never ever ran an option or QB power. He was a classic dropback QB and an OK scrambler. He didn’t have a strong arm and was an ok passer. He was a good leader and his teammates seemed to respond to him. Best comp would be Kirk cousins, but without cousins accuracy. I saw him play as well. Actually caught a pass from him on autograph day. And he had a very strong arm. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 If you brought Jack to a camp today, he’d not make a team. If you brought today’s money to a camp sixty years ago, he’d be making big five money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) Forget the stats it’s apples cracker jacks. Championship qb. 50 million easy. Edited July 28 by Matt_In_NH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 28 Author Share Posted July 28 Jack Kemp had the ability to make the big play and win the game at the end. That is the reason the Bills were champions of the AFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amprov56 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 11 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Top 5. Can’t compare stats though because receivers could get mugged back then under the rules. Kemp would be a Josh-like guy with a great arm and running ability. Class, character, and intelligence! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 You can't compare the stats to today's QBs, but it's fair to compare the accolades. A 2-time AFL MVP and 5x first team All-Star equivalent today would be paid like a top-5 franchise QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 hours ago, MJS said: He had 40 career rushing TDs when he retired, though, which was 2nd among QB's back then and still 5th all time today. So, I imagine him as a Russel Wilson type QB. But, he is way before my time. I've only seen the odd highlight here or there. Most of those rushing TD's were QB sneaks at the goal line. Billy Shaw is in the HOF in part for how he blocked on those sneaks. If I remember Cookie used to help with a nudge or two in the pile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Who was there Namath, Dawson, Lamonica, and ?. Top 5 salary I would guess out of the 10 or 12 teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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