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2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

IOC says not transgender,  From the Guardian: On Thursday, the IOC’s spokesman Mark Adams was asked about the controversy. “I repeat that all the competitors comply with the eligibility rules,” he said. “But what I would say is that this involves real people. And, by the way, this is not a transgender issue. I should make this absolutely clear.”

 

This implies to me XX genotype but no one has said XY except the president of the Russian boxing commission who is reportedly corrupt.  I think the big takeaway is that gender is not always clear despite what MAGAs insist.  There are many medical conditions that confound the determination.  For example, would an XXY individual be male;e or female.  Most live as males.

Hmm. I guess we don't know then.

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Watching US belgium women's b ball.  Many of the players are masculine appearing (more masculine than feminine?) especially on the US team.  Britney Griner is definitely on the very end of the bell curve.  But it's a good game.  No  one hurt yet.

 

Belgium is sponsored by Spalding.  Can't remember the last time i saw that on a jersey.

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Some people are so upset about trans people that they'll label a woman trans just because it fits their narrative...

 

J.K. Rowling Invents A Trans Olympian To Get Mad At

 

Despite the obnoxious bluster from the right that the growing visibility of trans women in public life would end women's sports as we know it, the Olympics have been yet again dominated by cis athletes. Lacking a talented target for their rage, but needing fuel for the only subject they ever talk about, the commentators most obsessed with trans women have turned their attention to the Algerian female boxer Imane Khelif.

 

Khelif is not trans. This is evident because, according to the IOC, her passport lists her as female, which is something that the extraordinarily repressive Algerian laws would not allow if she were trans. She was, however, disqualified from the 2023 women’s world championships because tests showed she had XY chromosomes, which is possible for cis women with certain conditions. Khelif made it to the quarterfinals of the 2020 Olympics, where she was defeated by Kellie Harrington, without incident, and she has been boxing on the international circuit for years without any of her wins or defeats gaining much attention. But her fight against Angela Carini on Thursday made her a magnet for some truly disgusting hate.

 

Carini quit the fight after just 46 seconds, claiming that Khelif's punches hurt too much for her to continue. As a result, Khelif became an immediate villain for those just itching for a trans controversy. Lots and lots of people are out there making unhinged statements about Khelif's anatomy, but this post from the world's most famous bigot, J.K. Rowling, is truly stunning for the way a supposed feminist so eagerly calls a cis woman "he" based simply on the way she looks and the effect of years of brain-rotting propaganda.

 

Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of a male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose life’s ambition he’s just shattered. #Paris2024 pic.twitter.com/Q5SbKiksXQ

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) August 1, 2024

 

The Olympics, like all sports, are about celebrating the most awe-inspiring humans (or horses) for both their physical and mental superiority. Essentially any athlete who succeeds at this level is going to wield some difference that sets them apart from the rest of the competition, that shatters the life's ambitions of their opponents. When those athletes are men, we celebrate them unconditionally. But athletes like Khelif or Brittney Griner or Caster Semenya or Lia Thomas, when they excel, have to endure their femininity getting picked apart by freaks. In response to discussions about the complication of gender—the fact that no one trait is going to be shared by every man or woman in the world—the right loves to sneeringly ask "What is a woman?" with the implication that they can explain it straightforwardly and the left can't. But if they're going to narrow their definition so much that a cis woman with a difference only revealed through DNA tests instantly loses her claim to womanhood, it's hard to believe "woman" signifies anything to them besides "a means for oppression."

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46 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Some people are so upset about trans people that they'll label a woman trans just because it fits their narrative...

 

J.K. Rowling Invents A Trans Olympian To Get Mad At

 

Despite the obnoxious bluster from the right that the growing visibility of trans women in public life would end women's sports as we know it, the Olympics have been yet again dominated by cis athletes. Lacking a talented target for their rage, but needing fuel for the only subject they ever talk about, the commentators most obsessed with trans women have turned their attention to the Algerian female boxer Imane Khelif.

 

Khelif is not trans. This is evident because, according to the IOC, her passport lists her as female, which is something that the extraordinarily repressive Algerian laws would not allow if she were trans. She was, however, disqualified from the 2023 women’s world championships because tests showed she had XY chromosomes, which is possible for cis women with certain conditions. Khelif made it to the quarterfinals of the 2020 Olympics, where she was defeated by Kellie Harrington, without incident, and she has been boxing on the international circuit for years without any of her wins or defeats gaining much attention. But her fight against Angela Carini on Thursday made her a magnet for some truly disgusting hate.

 

Carini quit the fight after just 46 seconds, claiming that Khelif's punches hurt too much for her to continue. As a result, Khelif became an immediate villain for those just itching for a trans controversy. Lots and lots of people are out there making unhinged statements about Khelif's anatomy, but this post from the world's most famous bigot, J.K. Rowling, is truly stunning for the way a supposed feminist so eagerly calls a cis woman "he" based simply on the way she looks and the effect of years of brain-rotting propaganda.

 

Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of a male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose life’s ambition he’s just shattered. #Paris2024 pic.twitter.com/Q5SbKiksXQ

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) August 1, 2024

 

The Olympics, like all sports, are about celebrating the most awe-inspiring humans (or horses) for both their physical and mental superiority. Essentially any athlete who succeeds at this level is going to wield some difference that sets them apart from the rest of the competition, that shatters the life's ambitions of their opponents. When those athletes are men, we celebrate them unconditionally. But athletes like Khelif or Brittney Griner or Caster Semenya or Lia Thomas, when they excel, have to endure their femininity getting picked apart by freaks. In response to discussions about the complication of gender—the fact that no one trait is going to be shared by every man or woman in the world—the right loves to sneeringly ask "What is a woman?" with the implication that they can explain it straightforwardly and the left can't. But if they're going to narrow their definition so much that a cis woman with a difference only revealed through DNA tests instantly loses her claim to womanhood, it's hard to believe "woman" signifies anything to them besides "a means for oppression."

 

I don't know much about the players, who said what or who's making spurious allegations. I will say, however, that the intrepid journalist's evidence is simply speculation.   Governments do all sorts of things, for all different reasons, can be corrupt, can be incompetent and routinely half the population is unhappy with them.  

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7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

I don't know much about the players, who said what or who's making spurious allegations. I will say, however, that the intrepid journalist's evidence is simply speculation.   Governments do all sorts of things, for all different reasons, can be corrupt, can be incompetent and routinely half the population is unhappy with them.  


There’s no evidence she was born a man and transitioned. 
 

She likely has elevated testosterone (not uncommon in female athletes) or possibly a rare condition. 
 

But that hasn’t stopped some people from attacking a cis-woman for not meeting their expectations. 

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13 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


There’s no evidence she was born a man and transitioned. 
 

She likely has elevated testosterone (not uncommon in female athletes) or possibly a rare condition. 
 

But that hasn’t stopped some people from attacking a cis-woman for not meeting their expectations. 

It's weird.  MAGAs know who a person should be and how they should live....Freedom!

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3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

It's weird.  MAGAs know who a person should be and how they should live....Freedom!


 

You can’t define woman.  
 

And it’s “fweeeeedom!!”

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:lol:

 

The friggin King with the best commie sources.

 

Here's a cheat sheet for their commie language. 

 

Cis-man = man

Trans-woman = man

 

Cis-woman = woman

Trans-man = woman

 

How come there aren't any trans-men competing in the Olympics?

 

Hate! Discrimination!

 

 

Despite the obnoxious bluster from the right that the growing visibility of trans women in public life would end women's sports as we know it, the Olympics have been yet again dominated by cis athletes.

 

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2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

‘conservatives’ oh the horror of a ‘man’ beating a woman during the Olympic boxing match they both signed up for.

 

also

 

women should take the beating at home “for the children”
 

“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that like, “Well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.”

And maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages“

 

maybe the quick to judge might want to come down from their high horses and actually you know let women make their own choices, like actual people. Just a thought.

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6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

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Commie who supports men competing in women's sports.

‘Anti-communist ’ who supports beating women at home. 

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52 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

In this case, many people can't.  there's a lesson here somewhere....Justice Ketanji Brown says Hi.

It takes a biologist. That’s a new thing here in the early part of the 21st century. Prior to that it required no scientific background. 

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