longtimebillsfan Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 On 7/26/2024 at 7:10 PM, hellofellowbillsfans said: Nothing is better than watching a division rival in QB purgatory Expand Love it. This will restrict the phins from signing or keeping hi priced talent. 1 Quote
Coffeesforclosers Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Outstanding. This is great news. Tua gets generational wealth. We get the same old Miami Dolphins for four more years. 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Best news I've had all day On 7/26/2024 at 7:24 PM, loyal2dagame said: I was hoping he'd get 6 yrs Expand i was hoping life time contract 1 Quote
Rocky Landing Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/27/2024 at 3:15 AM, klos63 said: Did I say ' look out'? I know it's blasphemous to not constantly see this as a positive for Buffalo, but I see no reason to feel giddy about it like so many on here feel. He's improved every season, only in 5th this coming year. No reason to believe he can't maintain our even get better. Expand Honest question: Do you feel that Tua signing this contract with Miami improves, worsens, or stagnates their outlook going forward? Personally, I think it stagnates their outlook, at best. And that is reason for sanguinity. 2 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/27/2024 at 1:23 AM, TBBills Fan said: I got $3 on the other one eating this one Expand Pay up, mutha *****a.... 🤑 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 (edited) On 7/28/2024 at 1:20 AM, Freddie's Dead said: Pay up, mutha *****a.... 🤑 Expand Bahahaha I'll take the L Send me your venmo. At least it's not a $5000 loss like the last time Edited July 28, 2024 by TBBills Fan 1 Quote
klos63 Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 12:01 AM, Rocky Landing said: Honest question: Do you feel that Tua signing this contract with Miami improves, worsens, or stagnates their outlook going forward? Personally, I think it stagnates their outlook, at best. And that is reason for sanguinity. Expand I think they'll have a very strong offense. No reason to think it wouldn't continue to be strong. They have a great running game and 2 tremendous WR's. Quote
Rocky Landing Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 4:01 AM, klos63 said: I think they'll have a very strong offense. No reason to think it wouldn't continue to be strong. They have a great running game and 2 tremendous WR's. Expand Doesn't really answer the question, though. 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 1:24 AM, TBBills Fan said: Bahahaha I'll take the L Send me your venmo. At least it's not a $5000 loss like the last time Expand Just havin' some fun with ya😜. I couldn't believe they merged the other one. Gotta be the title.... 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 (edited) On 7/28/2024 at 5:43 AM, Freddie's Dead said: Just havin' some fun with ya😜. I couldn't believe they merged the other one. Gotta be the title.... Expand I think the mods wanted you to win the bet! They've been out to get me since the so called "stalking" incident Edited July 28, 2024 by TBBills Fan 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2414/breaking-down-tua-tagovailoas-2124m-extension Excellent breakdown of Tua’s contract in this above link. Worth the read. Here’s a snippet: THE EXTENSION TERMS Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins came to terms on a 4 year, $212.4M extension yesterday that keeps the QB under contract through the 2028 season. It easily surpasses Tyreek Hill’s $120M contract as the largest total value deal in Dolphins’ history, while the $212.4M figure ranks 11th among active NFL contracts. The $53.1M contract average is the 2nd largest figure in NFL history, but Tua now ranks 4th in AAV behind Burrow, Lawrence, and Love - all who clock in at $55M. Against the current $255.4M league salary cap, Tua’s AAV represents 20.79%, which ranks 12th in the league (behind Lawrence, ahead of Goff). Quote
Billl Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 3:40 PM, BarleyNY said: https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2414/breaking-down-tua-tagovailoas-2124m-extension Excellent breakdown of Tua’s contract in this above link. Worth the read. Here’s a snippet: THE EXTENSION TERMS Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins came to terms on a 4 year, $212.4M extension yesterday that keeps the QB under contract through the 2028 season. It easily surpasses Tyreek Hill’s $120M contract as the largest total value deal in Dolphins’ history, while the $212.4M figure ranks 11th among active NFL contracts. The $53.1M contract average is the 2nd largest figure in NFL history, but Tua now ranks 4th in AAV behind Burrow, Lawrence, and Love - all who clock in at $55M. Against the current $255.4M league salary cap, Tua’s AAV represents 20.79%, which ranks 12th in the league (behind Lawrence, ahead of Goff). Expand In other words, it’s a very reasonable deal that will put him at about the 20th highest paid two years from now. Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 3:54 PM, Billl said: In other words, it’s a very reasonable deal that will put him at about the 20th highest paid two years from now. Expand Seems to be the case after looking at the details. Much more so than just seeing the initial numbers at least. To me it looks like a deal where they split the difference between the Daniel Jones two year guarantees and the top of market deals. Fair for both sides. He’s getting paid and is set to be a Phin for three seasons - thru 2026. But they didn’t tie themselves to him beyond that. 2 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 Just a quick bit of math: Expected 2025 salary cap: $260 million Current expected cap hits Tua: $ 51 million Tyreek Hill: $34 million Jaylen Ramsey: $24 million. Waddle: $20 million That's approximately half their cap tied up on four players 1 1 Quote
Billl Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 4:13 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Just a quick bit of math: Expected 2025 salary cap: $260 million Current expected cap hits Tua: $ 51 million Tyreek Hill: $34 million Jaylen Ramsey: $24 million. Waddle: $20 million That's approximately half their cap tied up on four players Expand Three stars and a QB. Nothing wrong with that for a team aiming to win now. Quote
klos63 Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 4:05 AM, Rocky Landing said: Doesn't really answer the question, though. Expand Your choices are pretty dumb, 2 are negative. I think it's pretty clear that I think they'll be as good or better. Hopefully our secondary improves and we'll be able to shut them down. On 7/27/2024 at 5:41 PM, longtimebillsfan said: Love it. This will restrict the phins from signing or keeping hi priced talent. Expand How do other teams manage? On 7/28/2024 at 4:13 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Just a quick bit of math: Expected 2025 salary cap: $260 million Current expected cap hits Tua: $ 51 million Tyreek Hill: $34 million Jaylen Ramsey: $24 million. Waddle: $20 million That's approximately half their cap tied up on four players Expand Isn't Miami allowed to restructure, extend... to be more cap friendly, like every other team? 1 Quote
Augie Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 3:40 PM, BarleyNY said: https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2414/breaking-down-tua-tagovailoas-2124m-extension Excellent breakdown of Tua’s contract in this above link. Worth the read. Here’s a snippet: THE EXTENSION TERMS Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins came to terms on a 4 year, $212.4M extension yesterday that keeps the QB under contract through the 2028 season. It easily surpasses Tyreek Hill’s $120M contract as the largest total value deal in Dolphins’ history, while the $212.4M figure ranks 11th among active NFL contracts. The $53.1M contract average is the 2nd largest figure in NFL history, but Tua now ranks 4th in AAV behind Burrow, Lawrence, and Love - all who clock in at $55M. Against the current $255.4M league salary cap, Tua’s AAV represents 20.79%, which ranks 12th in the league (behind Lawrence, ahead of Goff). Expand And the big number…..$93 Mil guaranteed. I wonder what that looks like if he gets broken or concussions put him out of the league in a year, or two, or later. I’d hate to see it happen, but it has to be considered. Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 5:01 PM, Augie said: And the big number…..$93 Mil guaranteed. I wonder what that looks like if he gets broken or concussions put him out of the league in a year, or two, or later. I’d hate to see it happen, but it has to be considered. Expand Agreed. It’s a substantial risk for the Phins, but I don’t see a lot of other options for them. Tua fits their scheme so well (even if it was designed to fit him). This regime can’t blow it up and start over. Not with where they’re at with skill players. What other choice do they really have? 3 Quote
Lfod Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/28/2024 at 5:01 PM, Augie said: And the big number…..$93 Mil guaranteed. I wonder what that looks like if he gets broken or concussions put him out of the league in a year, or two, or later. I’d hate to see it happen, but it has to be considered. Expand Yeah I thought he was done after I saw his fingers curled up. He proved me wrong about that. It wouldn't shock me if he misses some games. It could trend that way. Tua is alright. I think he is good enough to have the Fish in the mix. I don't think the Fish really had any outs to go in a different direction at the moment. Quote
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