Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: no It means there are reasons beyond QB as to why teams do or don't accomplish things Simply put, outside of Buffalo no one cares though. We all knows he’s at least the 2nd best QB in the league. The league and national media don’t all agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Simply put, outside of Buffalo no one cares though. We all knows he’s at least the 2nd best QB in the league. The league and national media don’t all agree. who cares 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: who cares No one. Get some hardware Josh. Right. I think he gets it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: No one. Get some hardware Josh. Right. I think he gets it this year. i should clarify i dont care if people think allens the second, third, first or fiftieth best qb in the NFL because he doesnt have a super bowl i do care that the buffalo bills win a super bowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: i should clarify i dont care if people think allens the second, third, first or fiftieth best qb in the NFL because he doesnt have a super bowl i do care that the buffalo bills win a super bowl Josh Allen will win the MVP this season. There will be no more discussion after the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Josh Allen will win the MVP this season. There will be no more discussion after the season. I don't know if Allen will ever win an MVP. He is responsible for many TD's both passing and rushing which we all love. But Allen's style of play is an aggressive one. He has a gunslinger mentality. He is a bigger/stronger version of Brett Favre. Combine that with his abilities and he is able to make plays that maybe only Mahomes can make. The downside to that is he will turn the ball over with his gunslinger/aggressive style of play. That will hurt him some when it comes to MVP talk. While Allen will probably throw for 30 or more TD's every year and rush for 10 or more. He is also probably good for at least 15 INT's a year as well. Personally, I could care less if he wins an MVP as long as he can help the Bills win a Super Bowl. That is what really matters. Edited August 1 by Gregg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Gregg said: I don't know if Allen will ever win an MVP. He is responsible for many TD's both passing and receiving which we all love. But Allen's style of play is an aggressive one. He has a gunslinger mentality. He is a bigger/stronger version of Brett Favre. Combine that with his abilities and he is able to make plays that maybe only Mahomes can make. The downside to that is he will turn the ball over with his gunslinger/aggressive style of play. That will hurt him some when it comes to MVP talk. While Allen will probably throw for 30 or more TD's every year and rush for 10 or more. He is also probably good for at least 15 INT's a year as well. Personally, I could care less if he wins an MVP as long as he can help the Bills win a Super Bowl. That is what really matters. We’ll see. This offense is going to be more quick throws. I think he’ll throw less INTs this year. The only question I have is will his other stats drop, that probably depends on his receivers/TEs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/once-again-nfl-gets-it-wrong-bills-qb-josh-allen-lamar-jackson/75dcb2be8cad5a9934228479 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro Nimbus Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 The only thing ridiculous about this list is having Rodger’s at 92 when he played 4 snaps the entire year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think most Bills fans would rank the top 2 the same. Here’s my question, what criteria do you use to rank the next 2-3 QBs? there isn’t a set criteria. Every quarterback is in a unique situation of their own. You really can’t have set criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: there isn’t a set criteria. Every quarterback is in a unique situation of their own. You really can’t have set criteria. Exactly. You could have Burrow/Lamar/Stroud/Stafford/even Rodgers as QB3 from a GM/Fan perspective depending on scheme, wants, attributes they measure by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Referring to Allen’s “turnover problem” Chris Simms suggested 4 time MVP Rodgers playing it too safe in terms of turnover avoidance actually has doomed him in postseason. Probably has a point. Similar to a highly ranked yardage defense that can’t force a turnover in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 20 hours ago, Gregg said: I don't know if Allen will ever win an MVP. He is responsible for many TD's both passing and rushing which we all love. But Allen's style of play is an aggressive one. He has a gunslinger mentality. He is a bigger/stronger version of Brett Favre. Combine that with his abilities and he is able to make plays that maybe only Mahomes can make. The downside to that is he will turn the ball over with his gunslinger/aggressive style of play. That will hurt him some when it comes to MVP talk. While Allen will probably throw for 30 or more TD's every year and rush for 10 or more. He is also probably good for at least 15 INT's a year as well. Personally, I could care less if he wins an MVP as long as he can help the Bills win a Super Bowl. That is what really matters. MVP voters will really give a QB a hard look when they have a 3 to 1 TD/INT ratio or better not including rushing TD's. People can dislike like that comment but nobody who has won the MVP in the modern era at QB had anything lower than a 3 to 1 ratio. Josh was at that mark once in 2020 and that was the closest year he had to the MVP. I expect that season in 2023 would have done it. 2023 - 3.42 Jackson Allen 1.61 2022- 3.42 - Mahomes Allen 2.67 2021- 9.25 - Rogers Allen 2.4 2020- 9.60 - Rogers Allen 3.70 2019- 6.00 - Jackson Allen 2.22 Edited August 2 by Mikie2times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Josh @ 12....Comical...Good Lord this ridiculous yearly list gets more embarrassing every season. It is all non-formulated nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Mahomes at #4. Lamar will be in the top 3. Not a serious list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 8/1/2024 at 12:54 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 24 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Mahomes at #4. Lamar will be in the top 3. Not a serious list. It’s top 100, not best 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 If the players voted purely on who had the best season like they’re supposed to (and submitted their votes before the regular season ended), having Lamar over Mahomes makes plenty of sense. But then stuff like Rodgers being ranked or Mahomes over Allen does not make sense so yeah, weird list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 NFL players are as good at making top-100 lists as they are at managing their personal finances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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