The Frankish Reich Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Walter Mondale. 1976 election. LOL. So you're saying it works. 😀
Milanos Milano Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) It’s not going to matter. She never won anything in the primaries, nobody wants her. Edited July 22 by Milanos Milano 2 3
Tiberius Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Jennifer Rubin is making the argument that it should be two women, like Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, a good German women. That would work! 1 2
Pokebball Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Jennifer Rubin is making the argument that it should be two women, like Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, a good German women. That would work! I gotta think Whitmer is smarter than this
Tiberius Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I gotta think Whitmer is smarter than this First step to her becoming President 1
Tommy Callahan Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Her family comes from slave owners? https://nypost.com/2024/07/23/us-news/kamala-harris-may-have-descended-from-irish-slave-owner-not-a-nice-fellow/ A shining example of how the grey lady is propaganda. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/28/world/africa/kamala-harris-ghana-slavery.html 1
Pokebball Posted July 23 Posted July 23 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: First step to her becoming President first step would be to distance herself from Kamala
The Frankish Reich Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 39 minutes ago, 4th&long said: I think it should be pence. I would love to see a Republican (old school) unity ticket thing. Condi Rice, where are you? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you. (will never happen) 1
Irv Posted July 23 Posted July 23 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: First step to her becoming President No. It's the first step to losing in November. What a mess.
ComradeKayAdams Posted July 23 Posted July 23 On 7/21/2024 at 8:22 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Names being kicked about: - Josh Shapiro, to help in PA - James Stavridis (former NATO commander) to help with foreign policy/defense credentials - Mark Kelly, to help in AZ Who'd you like to see? I really like Andy Beshear, the current governor of Kentucky. He would present himself as a nice complement to Harris and a nice countervailing force to Vance. I’d also be fine with J.B. Pritzker and Gretchen Whitmer. The most realistic pick, however, is probably Roy Cooper because of his current working relationships with Biden/Harris and because of the perception of North Carolina as a key Southern swing state. FYI…progressives will NOT support Josh Shapiro (genocide apologist), James Stavridis (imperialist), or Mark Kelly (anti-labor). Harris can’t win the “northern blue firewall” (Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) without sufficient support from progressives, and a practical path to 270 EC votes becomes too difficult for the Democratic Party without all three of those states. So it’s perfectly reasonable to think of progressives as the power brokers of 2024. Whether or not Bernie, Jayapal, and The Squad are willing to utilize this power to actually influence Kamala’s policy agenda is another matter altogether. 1
Tiberius Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said: I really like Andy Beshear, the current governor of Kentucky. He would present himself as a nice complement to Harris and a nice countervailing force to Vance. I’d also be fine with J.B. Pritzker and Gretchen Whitmer. The most realistic pick, however, is probably Roy Cooper because of his current working relationships with Biden/Harris and because of the perception of North Carolina as a key Southern swing state. FYI…progressives will NOT support Josh Shapiro (genocide apologist), James Stavridis (imperialist), or Mark Kelly (anti-labor). Harris can’t win the “northern blue firewall” (Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) without sufficient support from progressives, and a practical path to 270 EC votes becomes too difficult for the Democratic Party without all three of those states. So it’s perfectly reasonable to think of progressives as the power brokers of 2024. Whether or not Bernie, Jayapal, and The Squad are willing to utilize this power to actually influence Kamala’s policy agenda is another matter altogether. I love Gretch Witmer. I mean what a campaign slogan! "Two Cool Chicks, vs Two Real Di cks" Edited July 23 by Tiberius 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted July 24 Posted July 24 She would continue the policies. And why they talk about race and sex. And the orange dude. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted July 24 Author Posted July 24 14 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: I really like Andy Beshear, the current governor of Kentucky. He would present himself as a nice complement to Harris and a nice countervailing force to Vance. I’d also be fine with J.B. Pritzker and Gretchen Whitmer. The most realistic pick, however, is probably Roy Cooper because of his current working relationships with Biden/Harris and because of the perception of North Carolina as a key Southern swing state. FYI…progressives will NOT support Josh Shapiro (genocide apologist), James Stavridis (imperialist), or Mark Kelly (anti-labor). Harris can’t win the “northern blue firewall” (Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) without sufficient support from progressives, and a practical path to 270 EC votes becomes too difficult for the Democratic Party without all three of those states. So it’s perfectly reasonable to think of progressives as the power brokers of 2024. Whether or not Bernie, Jayapal, and The Squad are willing to utilize this power to actually influence Kamala’s policy agenda is another matter altogether. Sorry, I can't agree with doubling down on the progressive side. Ever since Trump took over the Republican Party the middle has been wide open. Progressives will turn out; Trump as the candidate assures that. The key is convincing the very small percentage of voters in the middle (and on the RFK "a pox on both their houses" fringe) that the Democrats won't tack wildly to the left. The Governors and Kelly help there. 1 1
K D Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Just now, B-Man said: I hope it's Bootyjuice. Let's see how progressive the left really is. Would they elect an Indian/Jamaican communist woman plus a gay man? I've been talking to family members who are anti Trump but were already likely not voting for Kamala let alone a homosexual. I personally don't care but I know many potential voters do even if they hate Trump
The Frankish Reich Posted July 24 Author Posted July 24 16 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I hope it's Bootyjuice. Let's see how progressive the left really is. Would they elect an Indian/Jamaican communist woman plus a gay man? I've been talking to family members who are anti Trump but were already likely not voting for Kamala let alone a homosexual. I personally don't care but I know many potential voters do even if they hate Trump I'm afraid you're right about the last part. Pete is sharp, clear, smart, and a great contrast to the new-style JD Vance. And Vance actually has less relevant experience than Pete. But I just don't think it'll work.
K D Posted July 24 Posted July 24 5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I'm afraid you're right about the last part. Pete is sharp, clear, smart, and a great contrast to the new-style JD Vance. And Vance actually has less relevant experience than Pete. But I just don't think it'll work. They had to run Kamala. Might as well go full 🤡 and break those barriers now with Mayor Pete so next time it won't be so jarring to older folks
L Ron Burgundy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 6 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Sorry, I can't agree with doubling down on the progressive side. Ever since Trump took over the Republican Party the middle has been wide open. Progressives will turn out; Trump as the candidate assures that. The key is convincing the very small percentage of voters in the middle (and on the RFK "a pox on both their houses" fringe) that the Democrats won't tack wildly to the left. The Governors and Kelly help there. Good counter points. 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I'm afraid you're right about the last part. Pete is sharp, clear, smart, and a great contrast to the new-style JD Vance. And Vance actually has less relevant experience than Pete. But I just don't think it'll work. Yeah, if Pete weren't gay he might already be front runner. Sad but true imo.
Doc Brown Posted July 24 Posted July 24 6 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Sorry, I can't agree with doubling down on the progressive side. Ever since Trump took over the Republican Party the middle has been wide open. Progressives will turn out; Trump as the candidate assures that. The key is convincing the very small percentage of voters in the middle (and on the RFK "a pox on both their houses" fringe) that the Democrats won't tack wildly to the left. The Governors and Kelly help there. Yeah. Definitely go with someone perceived as closer to the middle than her as she's always been viewed as further to the left than Biden. Shapiro just makes too much sense and I'd be shocked if he wasn't the pick.
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