GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 can we go back to discussing the twink who took that hog in the capitol building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yes, we know. Despite what orange fascist says, we don't live in a vacuum. We rely on the rest of the world for many things. But please continue. For the few who don't already know, we get a glimpse inside the "thinking"{ of the typical MAGA. So the typical thinking of a lefty is to swallow everything the msm tells you with mouths open wide and a smile on your face? Once again, I didn't vote for Trump, the left just went fully off the deep end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Bro just say your wrong about crime and move on, your TDS is on full display. It's not a good look. I'm not wrong and could link more data but you'd just reply that it's untrue with a wave of your hand and nothing to back up your contention...it's what MAGAs do. 2 minutes ago, GMB 8888 said: can we go back to discussing the twink who took that hog in the capitol building? I need a translation. my digital language translator doesn't understand either 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: So the typical thinking of a lefty is to swallow everything the msm tells you with mouths open wide and a smile on your face? Once again, I didn't vote for Trump, the left just went fully off the deep end. No. thoughtful liberals look at data and real research with an objective eye. If the data data is questioned or questionable, thoughtful people investigate further, look at other sources, look at methodology, look at sample size etc. In effect, analyze it. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'm not wrong and could link more data but you'd just reply that it's untrue with a wave of your hand and nothing to back up your contention...it's what MAGAs do. I need a translation. my digital language translator doesn't understand either No. thoughtful liberals look at data and real research with an objective eye. If the data data is questioned or questionable, thoughtful people investigate further, look at other sources, look at methodology, look at sample size etc. In effect, analyze it. Show me FBI crime data to back up your position. 18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'm not wrong and could link more data but you'd just reply that it's untrue with a wave of your hand and nothing to back up your contention...it's what MAGAs do. I need a translation. my digital language translator doesn't understand either No. thoughtful liberals look at data and real research with an objective eye. If the data data is questioned or questionable, thoughtful people investigate further, look at other sources, look at methodology, look at sample size etc. In effect, analyze it. So after data and research you concluded Biden is lucid and is totally fit to be president? Until you were told otherwise? Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 17 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Show me FBI crime data to back up your position. So after data and research you concluded Biden is lucid and is totally fit to be president? Until you were told otherwise? Good stuff. Dude, the first article I posted cited FBI numbers. This one links FBI numbers as well as other sources (The FBI numbers are local law enforcement numbers collated and summarized). Not surprising that you didn't read the first link (and very likely won't read this): https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/trumps-bogus-attack-on-fbi-crime-statistics/. You are either unwilling or unable to analyze the available data (or both). unsurprisingly, your "argument" is very similar to trump's: Time National Politics Reporter Eric Cortellessa, April 12: Violent crime is going down throughout the country. There was a 6% drop in— Trump: I don’t believe it. Cortellessa: You don’t believe that? Trump: Yeah, they’re fake numbers. Cortellessa: You think so? Trump: Well it came out last night. The FBI gave fake numbers. Cortellessa: I didn’t see that, but the FBI said that there was a 13% drop [in homicides] in 2023. Trump: I don’t believe it. No, it’s a lie. It’s fake news. Cortellessa: Sir, these numbers are collected by state and local police departments across the country. Most of them support you. Are they wrong? Trump: Yeah. Last night. Well, maybe, maybe not. The FBI fudged the numbers and other people fudged numbers. There is no way that crime went down over the last year. There’s no way because you have migrant crime. Are they adding migrant crime? Or do they consider that a different form of crime? Cortellessa: So these local police departments are wrong? Trump: I don’t believe it’s from the local police. What I saw was the FBI was giving false numbers. 20 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Show me FBI crime data to back up your position. So after data and research you concluded Biden is lucid and is totally fit to be president? Until you were told otherwise? Good stuff. There wasn't any data nor research available perhaps purposefully. We could only judge on what we observed. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Dude, the first article I posted cited FBI numbers. This one links FBI numbers as well as other sources (The FBI numbers are local law enforcement numbers collated and summarized). Not surprising that you didn't read the first link (and very likely won't read this): https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/trumps-bogus-attack-on-fbi-crime-statistics/. You are either unwilling or unable to analyze the available data (or both). unsurprisingly, your "argument" is very similar to trump's: Time National Politics Reporter Eric Cortellessa, April 12: Violent crime is going down throughout the country. There was a 6% drop in— Trump: I don’t believe it. Cortellessa: You don’t believe that? Trump: Yeah, they’re fake numbers. Cortellessa: You think so? Trump: Well it came out last night. The FBI gave fake numbers. Cortellessa: I didn’t see that, but the FBI said that there was a 13% drop [in homicides] in 2023. Trump: I don’t believe it. No, it’s a lie. It’s fake news. Cortellessa: Sir, these numbers are collected by state and local police departments across the country. Most of them support you. Are they wrong? Trump: Yeah. Last night. Well, maybe, maybe not. The FBI fudged the numbers and other people fudged numbers. There is no way that crime went down over the last year. There’s no way because you have migrant crime. Are they adding migrant crime? Or do they consider that a different form of crime? Cortellessa: So these local police departments are wrong? Trump: I don’t believe it’s from the local police. What I saw was the FBI was giving false numbers. Your article is from April. They revised the numbers. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/10/16/stealth_edit_fbi_quietly_revises_violent_crime_stats_1065396.html#:~:text=Extensive Revisions in Violent Crime,robberies%2C and 37%2C091 aggravated assaults. just admit you’re wrong 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Dude, the first article I posted cited FBI numbers. This one links FBI numbers as well as other sources (The FBI numbers are local law enforcement numbers collated and summarized). Not surprising that you didn't read the first link (and very likely won't read this): https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/trumps-bogus-attack-on-fbi-crime-statistics/. You are either unwilling or unable to analyze the available data (or both). unsurprisingly, your "argument" is very similar to trump's: Time National Politics Reporter Eric Cortellessa, April 12: Violent crime is going down throughout the country. There was a 6% drop in— Trump: I don’t believe it. Cortellessa: You don’t believe that? Trump: Yeah, they’re fake numbers. Cortellessa: You think so? Trump: Well it came out last night. The FBI gave fake numbers. Cortellessa: I didn’t see that, but the FBI said that there was a 13% drop [in homicides] in 2023. Trump: I don’t believe it. No, it’s a lie. It’s fake news. Cortellessa: Sir, these numbers are collected by state and local police departments across the country. Most of them support you. Are they wrong? Trump: Yeah. Last night. Well, maybe, maybe not. The FBI fudged the numbers and other people fudged numbers. There is no way that crime went down over the last year. There’s no way because you have migrant crime. Are they adding migrant crime? Or do they consider that a different form of crime? Cortellessa: So these local police departments are wrong? Trump: I don’t believe it’s from the local police. What I saw was the FBI was giving false numbers. There wasn't any data nor research available perhaps purposefully. We could only judge on what we observed. Well you clearly need better observation skills. And yeah look at aristocrats post. Good day sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Your article is from April. They revised the numbers. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/10/16/stealth_edit_fbi_quietly_revises_violent_crime_stats_1065396.html#:~:text=Extensive Revisions in Violent Crime,robberies%2C and 37%2C091 aggravated assaults. just admit you’re wrong https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics here are the latest official FBI numbers (9/24). Interesting your cited article does not show a comparison of numbers between the years, revised or not). Here's the latest 2022 numbers: https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2022-crime-in-the-nation-statistics Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 If there is no objection, I am going to post an article about Kamala Harris (in the Harris 2024 thread) "Vice President Kamala Harris has gone 86 days as the presumptive, and now, official Democratic nominee for president without holding an official press conference." It seems impossible. I'm reading about this and that podcast, and an occasional interview with a mainstream newsperson, such as Fox's Bret Baier coming up, but never a news conference. How is it possible to rise to the presidency without one attempt at handling a press conference? Posted by Ann Althouse https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/10/vice-president-kamala-harris-has-gone.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 btw, who is responsible for "Realclear investigation"? One might assume it's part of realclear politics. Nope, it's Julie Kelly. not misleading at all... https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/authors/julie_kelly/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Racist. Kamala's Pitch to Black Men: Legal Weed, and Reparations David Strom The Democrats have lost the plot. Black men have been leaving the Democrat Party in droves, and it scares Kamala Harris for good reason. The black vote has been the base of the Democrat's election strategy since Lyndon B. Johnson. It has always been a bad deal for black voters if you look at how economic and social progress stalled and then reversed since the welfare state was expanded. All the way back to Daniel Moynihan's report on the state of the black family, social scientists have known that liberal policies have harmed black families and individuals. But Democrats were the party making the pitch for black votes, and black voters responded with loyalty. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/10/16/kamalas-pitch-to-black-men-legal-weed-and-reparations-n3795875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: btw, who is responsible for "Realclear investigation"? One might assume it's part of realclear politics. Nope, it's Julie Kelly. not misleading at all... https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/authors/julie_kelly/ https://dailycaller.com/2024/10/16/fbi-quietly-revised-violent-crime-data-surge-decrease/ They are taking the info directly from the FBI site and they interviewed a professor who said “I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” Carl Moody, professor at the College of William & Mary who specializes in crime, told RCI. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. The huge changes in 2021 and 2022, especially without an explanation, make it difficult to trust the FBI data.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) The "cryptic message" Julie Kelly cites in this report https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/UCR_Summary_of_Crime_in_-Nation_2023.pdf is so cryptic that I couldn't find it. perhaps one of you Julie Kelly followers can'provide the page. Alternatively, starting on page 30, the document discusses methodology in detail and might help even MAGA's understand that the numbers are not nor can ever be, absolute. Julie Kelly again proving how sleazy and dishonest she is... Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 2 hours ago, B-Man said: 1986: Graduated Howard University 1987: 1988: 1989: Graduated Hasting College of Law. 1990: Hired as Deputy DA Alameda, CA 1991: 1992: 1993: Begins affair w/Willie Brown. 1994: Appointed to Unemployment Insurance Board (by Willie Brown). 1995: Appointed to CA Medical Asst. Commission (by Willie Brown). 1996: 1997: 1998: Managing Attorney of CCU in SF. 1999: Withheld exculpatory evidence in George Gage case—led to 70 year prison sentence. 2000: 2001: 2002: Lied about Prosecutorial Record. 2003: Elected as San Francisco DA. 2004: Refused to seek death penalty for cop murderer. 2005: Refused to release records of sexually abusive Priests. 2006: 2007: 2008: 2009: 2010: Elected as CA AG by 0.5% margin. 2011: Withheld information leading to 600+ drug-related cases being tossed. 2012: } Threw 1,500+ people behind 2013: } bars over marijuana offenses 2014: } and refused early release of 2015: } prisoners bc of cheap labor. 2016: Elected to the CA U.S. Senate seat. 2017: 2018: Chanted “down, down with deportation” at parade w/hoaxter Jussie Smollett. 2019: • Enters 2020 presidential race—dropped out over no support. • Promised to End Cash Bail • Abolish Court-Ordered Fines • Expunge the Records of Felons • End Federal Mandatory Min. Sentences • Defund the Police • Defund ERO/ICE • Supports Gun Confiscation 2020: Selected by Joe Biden as his VP. 2021-2024: • Endless Wars • $72B+ to Iran • Fentanyl Crisis • Cocaine in WH • Cancelled Women • Word Salad Brat Queen • Energy Dependent • $200B+ to Ukraine • DOJ Weaponization • Joker-esq Cackles • Staged Second Coup • Classified Documents • Open Southern Border • Hides From Press/Interviews • Supply Chain Shortages • Voted Most Incompetent VP • Abysmal Retention Rate of Staff • Laughs at nothing, and her own jokes • Rape is up 42% • Assault is up 34% • Robbery is up 63% • Violent Crime is up 55% • Stranger Violence is up 61% • Domestic Violence is up 32% • Motor Vehicle Theft is up 42% • Violent Crime w/Weapon is up 56% • Record High Inflation • Record Homicide Rates • Record High Gas Prices • Record High Grocery Prices • Record High National Debt • Record High Spending Bills • Record High American CC Debt • Re-entered Paris Agreement • Admitted to No COVID Plan • Advocates for Child Mutilation • Normalization of Pedophilia • Historic Low Petroleum Reserves • Lowest K-12 Test Scores in a Decade • Botched Afghanistan Withdrawal • $80B+ in Military Equipment to Taliban • Amnesty to 11M+ Illegal Immigrants • Increase in Trans-Activist Shooters • Gay OF Porn in Senate Hearing Room 2025: TBD (expect the same, or worse) just bringing it back to the Gay OF porn here…I’m confused, we’re pro that right? Milo could never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, GMB 8888 said: Idk, that twink from senate hearing room was pretty hot with the ***** dripping out his hole. not sure if we should count that as a negative along the other points. Shouldn’t you be on a packers board somewhere? 55 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: There wasn't any data nor research available perhaps purposefully. We could only judge on what we observed. And what you observed and noted repeatedly was no mental decline in Joe Biden. Good god. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 19 minutes ago, aristocrat said: They are taking the info directly from the FBI site and they interviewed a professor who said Carl Moody is a professor of Economics at William and Mary. Not sure how his expertise translates to crime statistics or of his political affiliation. One would think that they would quote a respected expert in criminology instead. hmmmm https://www.wm.edu/as/cams/applied-statistics/faculty/moody-c.php And I'm sure saint Julie has no intention of misleading by her title "real clear investigations"... This paper gives some insight into Carl Moody's politics: https://crimeresearch.org/2023/07/is-there-a-policy-that-reduces-mass-public-shooting-deaths/ Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Carl Moody is a professor of Economics at William and Mary. Not sure how his expertise translates to crime statistics or of his political affiliation. One would think that they would quote a respected expert in criminology instead. hmmmm https://www.wm.edu/as/cams/applied-statistics/faculty/moody-c.php And I'm sure saint Julie has no intention of misleading by her title "real clear investigations"... ok, answer this. Why did the FBI revise their numbers on their own website? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 7 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Shouldn’t you be on a packers board somewhere? And what you observed and noted repeatedly was no mental decline in Joe Biden. Good god. Packers? Sorry that’s a loser franchise, real alphas don’t cheer for those beta boys in WI. Trump 2024!!!! MAGAAAAA FOR LIFE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 minute ago, GMB 8888 said: Packers? Sorry that’s a loser franchise, real alphas don’t cheer for those beta boys in WI. Trump 2024!!!! MAGAAAAA FOR LIFE! lower case packers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: ok, answer this. Why did the FBI revise their numbers on their own website? The fact that the FBI revised their numbers is everywhere in the news today. Because Little Joe cannot address this honestly he simply tries (and fails) to attack the source of the particular tweet in this thread (Julie Kelly in this case) THIS is standard deflecting practice by Joey. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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