Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/fbi-quietly-revised-2022-crime-data-to-show-violent-offenses-rose-rather-than-dropped/ Too maga for u? did you bother to look at the source for this article: "The apparent stealth edit to the bureau’s statistics, first reported by RealClearInvestigations, shows that the raw number of violent crime incidents — including murders, assaults and rapes — rose to 1,256,671 in 2022 from 1,197,930 in 2021, an increase of 4.9%." most of the rest of the "article" is verbatim from Julie Kelly. at least they used the word apparent. ya'll are sad. but go do your own research...This guy is the president of "Crime prevention research center" mentioned in the piece: CPRC was founded by Dr. John R. Lott, Jr., an economist and a world-recognized expert on guns and crime. During the Trump administration, he served as the Senior Advisor for Research and Statistics in the Office of Justice Programs and then the Office of Legal Policy in the U.S. Department of Justice. Lott has held research or teaching positions at various academic institutions, including the University of Chicago, Yale University, the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, Stanford University, UCLA, and Rice University, and was the chief economist at the United States Sentencing Commission during 1988-1989. Dr Moody is also on the board..One might even conclude that this article originated at this "center". .you figure it out. dumb, dumb,dumber Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: did you bother to look at the source for this article: "The apparent stealth edit to the bureau’s statistics, first reported by RealClearInvestigations, shows that the raw number of violent crime incidents — including murders, assaults and rapes — rose to 1,256,671 in 2022 from 1,197,930 in 2021, an increase of 4.9%." most of the rest of the "article" is verbatim from Julie Kelly. at least they used the word apparent. ya'll are sad. but go do your own research... You're right, crime is down, the economy is great. Everything is awesome!
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You're right, crime is down, the economy is great. Everything is awesome! So the answer is "no", you didn't bother to look. shocked, I tell ya! cool. and next time produce a meaningful argument. I'm sure julie kelly and her ilk very occasionally engage in honest debate. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
aristocrat Posted October 16 Posted October 16 7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: did you bother to look at the source for this article: "The apparent stealth edit to the bureau’s statistics, first reported by RealClearInvestigations, shows that the raw number of violent crime incidents — including murders, assaults and rapes — rose to 1,256,671 in 2022 from 1,197,930 in 2021, an increase of 4.9%." at least they used the word apparent. ya'll are sad. but go do your own research... Ask yourself why any left leaning news sources wouldn’t or would wait to report on this? Because they’ve been saying the right was lying about crime increases for years and now they need to come up with a narrative
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: So the answer is "no", you didn't bother to look. shocked, I tell ya! cool. and next time produce a meaningful argument. I'm sure julie kelly and her ilk very occasionally engage in honest debate. The Crime Prevention Research Center first identified the FBI’s subtle fix, citing a spreadsheet breaking down the original data. “I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” College of William & Mary economics professor Carl Moody, who specializes in studying crime, told RealClearInvestigations. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. 1
Roundybout Posted October 16 Posted October 16 23 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Revised fbi numbers, revised job numbers. It's like they're trying to hide something. Yeah they’re hiding something that’s why they published revisions and put out a release about it uh huh they’re the kremlin alright
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Just now, Roundybout said: Yeah they’re hiding something that’s why they published revisions and put out a release about it uh huh they’re the kremlin alright Why are the revisions always way below what was originally reported? If you don't have accurate data, why post a job report at all?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: The Crime Prevention Research Center first identified the FBI’s subtle fix, citing a spreadsheet breaking down the original data. “I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” College of William & Mary economics professor Carl Moody, who specializes in studying crime, told RealClearInvestigations. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. Uh huh. except they provide no proof or link to the "revisions". These experts are obviously part of the same gun pushing think tank. they clearly have an agenda. More on Lott: Lott is a prolific author for both academic and popular publications. He has published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed academic journals and written ten books, including “More Guns, Less Crime,” “The Bias Against Guns,” and “Freedomnomics.” His most recent books are “Dumbing Down the Courts: How politics keeps the smartest judges off the bench” and “Gun Control Myths.”
wnyguy Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Just now, Roundybout said: Yeah they’re hiding something that’s why they published revisions and put out a release about it uh huh they’re the kremlin alright If they hadn't lied to start there would be no reason for a revision would there?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Uh huh. except they provide no proof or link to the "revisions". These experts are obviously part of the same gun pushing think tank. they clearly have an agenda. More on Lott: Lott is a prolific author for both academic and popular publications. He has published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed academic journals and written ten books, including “More Guns, Less Crime,” “The Bias Against Guns,” and “Freedomnomics.” His most recent books are “Dumbing Down the Courts: How politics keeps the smartest judges off the bench” and “Gun Control Myths.” No, YOU clearly have an agenda. 1
aristocrat Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah they’re hiding something that’s why they published revisions and put out a release about it uh huh they’re the kremlin alright Normal revisions are like 1 percent either way. They are revising these numbers that are a ***** country mile off and we’re all supposed to be like no problem here move on? Jesus Christ 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Just now, wnyguy said: If they hadn't lied to start there would be no reason for a revision would there? we don't know that there was from what I'm seeing. NY post says "apparent revision". I don't see any official FBI revision. pls link. I'd be interested in reading from the source. Just for whites and giggles, peruse th site responsible for the "expert" quotes https://crimeresearch.org/about/
B-Man Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: LOL. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: No, YOU clearly have an agenda. "I know you are but what am I?" 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: LOL. Lather, rinse, repeat. show me the money!!! where are the independent sources that support Julie Kelly's serious accusations? ya'll have the same playbook: produce misinformation and spread it like wildfire. What she said could be true or it very well could be wrong but that doesn't stop the deep state MAGAs in the propaganda silos. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
wnyguy Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: we don't know that there was from what I'm seeing. NY post says "apparent revision". I don't see any official FBI revision. pls link. I'd be interested in reading from the source. Just for whites and giggles, peruse th site responsible for the "expert" quotes https://crimeresearch.org/about/ Thanks for the link, seems like a very respectable group over there. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, wnyguy said: Thanks for the link, seems like a very respectable group over there. Yes, veeery objective and likely to consider both sides of an argument🤫. pure coincidence that their president and research director were both quoted in the same article by Julie Kelly. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
wnyguy Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yes, veer objective and likely to consider both sides of an argument🤫. pure cooincidence that their president and research director were both quoted in the same article by Julie Kelly. I found it ironic that the Executive Director is named Laura Liberty, I was looking to see if they had anyone named Freddie Freedom on the staff.
Pokebball Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Anyone that read the original FBI report was made aware that crime was under reported, would be adjusted before year’s end, and that some cities and precincts had not reported. Anyone shocked about this update wasn’t paying attention. Initial report was widely promoted and celebrated even though everyone knew there would be “adjustments”. Now that we have the adjustments, will the results be widely promoted? That's my question.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 46 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: You said "wood" This was perfectly timed. How did you know Bundy would go there? Maybe the name "Bundy"?🤔 8 minutes ago, wnyguy said: I found it ironic that the Executive Director is named Laura Liberty, I was looking to see if they had anyone named Freddie Freedom on the staff. yes, apparently she does pr. I'm thinking she's probably a looker. Right after her is a Russian....just saying. and then there's this guy: Tim Groseclose is the Marvin Hoffenberg Professor of American Politics at UCLA. He holds appointments in the political science and economics departments at the university. In 1987, he received his B.S. in Mathematical Sciences from Stanford University. In 1992, he received his PhD from Stanford’s Graduate School of Business. He is the author of over two dozen scholarly articles as well as the book Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind. Maybe he posts on PPP. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
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