AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Dude, the first article I posted cited FBI numbers. This one links FBI numbers as well as other sources (The FBI numbers are local law enforcement numbers collated and summarized). Not surprising that you didn't read the first link (and very likely won't read this): https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/trumps-bogus-attack-on-fbi-crime-statistics/. You are either unwilling or unable to analyze the available data (or both). unsurprisingly, your "argument" is very similar to trump's: Time National Politics Reporter Eric Cortellessa, April 12: Violent crime is going down throughout the country. There was a 6% drop in— Trump: I don’t believe it. Cortellessa: You don’t believe that? Trump: Yeah, they’re fake numbers. Cortellessa: You think so? Trump: Well it came out last night. The FBI gave fake numbers. Cortellessa: I didn’t see that, but the FBI said that there was a 13% drop [in homicides] in 2023. Trump: I don’t believe it. No, it’s a lie. It’s fake news. Cortellessa: Sir, these numbers are collected by state and local police departments across the country. Most of them support you. Are they wrong? Trump: Yeah. Last night. Well, maybe, maybe not. The FBI fudged the numbers and other people fudged numbers. There is no way that crime went down over the last year. There’s no way because you have migrant crime. Are they adding migrant crime? Or do they consider that a different form of crime? Cortellessa: So these local police departments are wrong? Trump: I don’t believe it’s from the local police. What I saw was the FBI was giving false numbers. There wasn't any data nor research available perhaps purposefully. We could only judge on what we observed. Well you clearly need better observation skills. And yeah look at aristocrats post. Good day sir.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Your article is from April. They revised the numbers. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/10/16/stealth_edit_fbi_quietly_revises_violent_crime_stats_1065396.html#:~:text=Extensive Revisions in Violent Crime,robberies%2C and 37%2C091 aggravated assaults. just admit you’re wrong https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics here are the latest official FBI numbers (9/24). Interesting your cited article does not show a comparison of numbers between the years, revised or not). Here's the latest 2022 numbers: https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2022-crime-in-the-nation-statistics Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
B-Man Posted October 16 Posted October 16 If there is no objection, I am going to post an article about Kamala Harris (in the Harris 2024 thread) "Vice President Kamala Harris has gone 86 days as the presumptive, and now, official Democratic nominee for president without holding an official press conference." It seems impossible. I'm reading about this and that podcast, and an occasional interview with a mainstream newsperson, such as Fox's Bret Baier coming up, but never a news conference. How is it possible to rise to the presidency without one attempt at handling a press conference? Posted by Ann Althouse https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/10/vice-president-kamala-harris-has-gone.html
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 btw, who is responsible for "Realclear investigation"? One might assume it's part of realclear politics. Nope, it's Julie Kelly. not misleading at all... https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/authors/julie_kelly/ 1
B-Man Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Racist. Kamala's Pitch to Black Men: Legal Weed, and Reparations David Strom The Democrats have lost the plot. Black men have been leaving the Democrat Party in droves, and it scares Kamala Harris for good reason. The black vote has been the base of the Democrat's election strategy since Lyndon B. Johnson. It has always been a bad deal for black voters if you look at how economic and social progress stalled and then reversed since the welfare state was expanded. All the way back to Daniel Moynihan's report on the state of the black family, social scientists have known that liberal policies have harmed black families and individuals. But Democrats were the party making the pitch for black votes, and black voters responded with loyalty. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/10/16/kamalas-pitch-to-black-men-legal-weed-and-reparations-n3795875
aristocrat Posted October 16 Posted October 16 16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: btw, who is responsible for "Realclear investigation"? One might assume it's part of realclear politics. Nope, it's Julie Kelly. not misleading at all... https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/authors/julie_kelly/ https://dailycaller.com/2024/10/16/fbi-quietly-revised-violent-crime-data-surge-decrease/ They are taking the info directly from the FBI site and they interviewed a professor who said “I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” Carl Moody, professor at the College of William & Mary who specializes in crime, told RCI. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. The huge changes in 2021 and 2022, especially without an explanation, make it difficult to trust the FBI data.”
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) The "cryptic message" Julie Kelly cites in this report https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/UCR_Summary_of_Crime_in_-Nation_2023.pdf is so cryptic that I couldn't find it. perhaps one of you Julie Kelly followers can'provide the page. Alternatively, starting on page 30, the document discusses methodology in detail and might help even MAGA's understand that the numbers are not nor can ever be, absolute. Julie Kelly again proving how sleazy and dishonest she is... Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 hours ago, B-Man said: 1986: Graduated Howard University 1987: 1988: 1989: Graduated Hasting College of Law. 1990: Hired as Deputy DA Alameda, CA 1991: 1992: 1993: Begins affair w/Willie Brown. 1994: Appointed to Unemployment Insurance Board (by Willie Brown). 1995: Appointed to CA Medical Asst. Commission (by Willie Brown). 1996: 1997: 1998: Managing Attorney of CCU in SF. 1999: Withheld exculpatory evidence in George Gage case—led to 70 year prison sentence. 2000: 2001: 2002: Lied about Prosecutorial Record. 2003: Elected as San Francisco DA. 2004: Refused to seek death penalty for cop murderer. 2005: Refused to release records of sexually abusive Priests. 2006: 2007: 2008: 2009: 2010: Elected as CA AG by 0.5% margin. 2011: Withheld information leading to 600+ drug-related cases being tossed. 2012: } Threw 1,500+ people behind 2013: } bars over marijuana offenses 2014: } and refused early release of 2015: } prisoners bc of cheap labor. 2016: Elected to the CA U.S. Senate seat. 2017: 2018: Chanted “down, down with deportation” at parade w/hoaxter Jussie Smollett. 2019: • Enters 2020 presidential race—dropped out over no support. • Promised to End Cash Bail • Abolish Court-Ordered Fines • Expunge the Records of Felons • End Federal Mandatory Min. Sentences • Defund the Police • Defund ERO/ICE • Supports Gun Confiscation 2020: Selected by Joe Biden as his VP. 2021-2024: • Endless Wars • $72B+ to Iran • Fentanyl Crisis • Cocaine in WH • Cancelled Women • Word Salad Brat Queen • Energy Dependent • $200B+ to Ukraine • DOJ Weaponization • Joker-esq Cackles • Staged Second Coup • Classified Documents • Open Southern Border • Hides From Press/Interviews • Supply Chain Shortages • Voted Most Incompetent VP • Abysmal Retention Rate of Staff • Laughs at nothing, and her own jokes • Rape is up 42% • Assault is up 34% • Robbery is up 63% • Violent Crime is up 55% • Stranger Violence is up 61% • Domestic Violence is up 32% • Motor Vehicle Theft is up 42% • Violent Crime w/Weapon is up 56% • Record High Inflation • Record Homicide Rates • Record High Gas Prices • Record High Grocery Prices • Record High National Debt • Record High Spending Bills • Record High American CC Debt • Re-entered Paris Agreement • Admitted to No COVID Plan • Advocates for Child Mutilation • Normalization of Pedophilia • Historic Low Petroleum Reserves • Lowest K-12 Test Scores in a Decade • Botched Afghanistan Withdrawal • $80B+ in Military Equipment to Taliban • Amnesty to 11M+ Illegal Immigrants • Increase in Trans-Activist Shooters • Gay OF Porn in Senate Hearing Room 2025: TBD (expect the same, or worse) just bringing it back to the Gay OF porn here…I’m confused, we’re pro that right? Milo could never.
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, GMB 8888 said: Idk, that twink from senate hearing room was pretty hot with the ***** dripping out his hole. not sure if we should count that as a negative along the other points. Shouldn’t you be on a packers board somewhere? 55 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: There wasn't any data nor research available perhaps purposefully. We could only judge on what we observed. And what you observed and noted repeatedly was no mental decline in Joe Biden. Good god. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 19 minutes ago, aristocrat said: They are taking the info directly from the FBI site and they interviewed a professor who said Carl Moody is a professor of Economics at William and Mary. Not sure how his expertise translates to crime statistics or of his political affiliation. One would think that they would quote a respected expert in criminology instead. hmmmm https://www.wm.edu/as/cams/applied-statistics/faculty/moody-c.php And I'm sure saint Julie has no intention of misleading by her title "real clear investigations"... This paper gives some insight into Carl Moody's politics: https://crimeresearch.org/2023/07/is-there-a-policy-that-reduces-mass-public-shooting-deaths/ Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
aristocrat Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Carl Moody is a professor of Economics at William and Mary. Not sure how his expertise translates to crime statistics or of his political affiliation. One would think that they would quote a respected expert in criminology instead. hmmmm https://www.wm.edu/as/cams/applied-statistics/faculty/moody-c.php And I'm sure saint Julie has no intention of misleading by her title "real clear investigations"... ok, answer this. Why did the FBI revise their numbers on their own website? 2
GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 7 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Shouldn’t you be on a packers board somewhere? And what you observed and noted repeatedly was no mental decline in Joe Biden. Good god. Packers? Sorry that’s a loser franchise, real alphas don’t cheer for those beta boys in WI. Trump 2024!!!! MAGAAAAA FOR LIFE! 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, GMB 8888 said: Packers? Sorry that’s a loser franchise, real alphas don’t cheer for those beta boys in WI. Trump 2024!!!! MAGAAAAA FOR LIFE! lower case packers 1
B-Man Posted October 16 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: ok, answer this. Why did the FBI revise their numbers on their own website? The fact that the FBI revised their numbers is everywhere in the news today. Because Little Joe cannot address this honestly he simply tries (and fails) to attack the source of the particular tweet in this thread (Julie Kelly in this case) THIS is standard deflecting practice by Joey. . 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 16 Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: One would think that they would quote a respected expert in criminology instead. You said "wood" 1 1
GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: lower case packers No sir, I had no plans on moving.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Revised fbi numbers, revised job numbers. It's like they're trying to hide something.
GMB 8888 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Revised fbi numbers, revised job numbers. It's like they're trying to hide something. Yea stop hiding everything guys! We’re on to you! Twitter is onto your game…we DID OUR RESEARCH! MAGA 2024
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: The fact that the FBI revised their numbers is everywhere in the news today. Because Little Joe cannot address this honestly he simply tries (and fails) to attack the source of the particular tweet in this thread (Julie Kelly in this case) THIS is standard deflecting practice by Joey. . Link them. I only see far right sites so I suppose it depends on how you define "news". Just checked 3 articles in other right wing publications. They all quote RCI (Julie Kelly) article. Also use NCSV numbers as the gold standard. If you can be bothered to analyze the data, look up NCSV. This is how maga works: somebody publishes bs and then the other sites republish it as if the original article was gospel. slimy f'ers. Edited October 16 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Link them. I only see far right sites so I suppose it depends on how you define "news". https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/fbi-quietly-revised-2022-crime-data-to-show-violent-offenses-rose-rather-than-dropped/ Too maga for u?
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