All_Pro_Bills Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 To mitigate the risk of another attempt, the Secret Service is encouraging the Trump campaign to avoid scheduling any outdoor rallies which the service has admitted presents too many challenges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 This dude was either amazing at hiding his tracks. Or they are not even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 13 minutes ago, Scraps said: I believe the FBI is performing the investigation. There should be some evidence either on a computer and/or cell phone from either the nerd or the "traitor". Somehow they corresponded. If they didn't, this is just a crazy conspiracy theory. I am not claiming conspiracy, but I have a question for you. If the FBI in their investigation found malfeasance by a government agent or agency do you think we would ever find out about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I am not claiming conspiracy, but I have a question for you. If the FBI in their investigation found malfeasance by a government agent or agency do you think we would ever find out about it? If the FBI found that a Secret Service agent trolled for, found and groomed this nerd, I believe that agent would be charged with a crime and we would know about it. More likely, I think they will find that Trump's detail got to cozy with Trump. They stopped having his safety as their top priority. There was no reason for him to be on the stage with the problems starting before he got on the stage. After they went to protect him, there was no reason to stop and let hem get his shoes, or give a fist pump, when they didn't know whether or not there were other potential shooters in the area. They gave too much leeway to candidate Trump. Compare their actions to the Secret Service at the Reagan assassination attempt. Reagan's detail had one continuous motion to the car when shots were fired. With Congressional oversight, I don't see how secrecy of some conspiracy can be kept. There are just too many eyes on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 5 minutes ago, Scraps said: If the FBI found that a Secret Service agent trolled for, found and groomed this nerd, I believe that agent would be charged with a crime and we would know about it. More likely, I think they will find that Trump's detail got to cozy with Trump. They stopped having his safety as their top priority. There was no reason for him to be on the stage with the problems starting before he got on the stage. After they went to protect him, there was no reason to stop and let hem get his shoes, or give a fist pump, when they didn't know whether or not there were other potential shooters in the area. They gave too much leeway to candidate Trump. Compare their actions to the Secret Service at the Reagan assassination attempt. Reagan's detail had one continuous motion to the car when shots were fired. With Congressional oversight, I don't see how secrecy of some conspiracy can be kept. There are just too many eyes on this. Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 47 minutes ago, Scraps said: I believe the FBI is performing the investigation. There should be some evidence either on a computer and/or cell phone from either the nerd or the "traitor". Somehow they corresponded. If they didn't, this is just a crazy conspiracy theory. Tell me, was Sandy Hook staged? Did some nut go into a school and shoot children or are the parents just "crisis actors"? Are you an Alex Jones fan? Sandy hook was real, but do you believe that the FBI will publish a traitors information if they find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Keep the faith. Faith is what conspiracy theorists rely on. In my case, its more like going with the odds. Conspiracies are difficult to keep hidden. The more people involved, the harder it is to hide. Look at Trump's conviction for falsification of business records, hush money payments to a porn star, catch and kill of news stories and creation of Fake news. That only involved 3 people (Donald Trump, David ***** and Michael Cohen) and they couldn't keep it quiet. This one would have to involve more than 3 people across multiple agencies. This one would have to involve the shooter and both the Secret Service and State Police counter sniper teams, both being 2 man teams. It just doesn't make sense. Edited July 24 by Scraps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 14 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Sandy hook was real, but do you believe that the FBI will publish a traitors information if they find them? Do you know any FBI agents? I know a few and the all tend to be conservatives and Trump supporters. The idea that the FBI would be involved in a coverup over the assassination attempt on Trump is difficult for me to believe based on my experience with FBI agents. The idea of multiple members of Trump's Secret Service detail being traitors is far fetched to say the least. Congress will be engaged in significant oversight. I find it difficult to believe the results could be kept secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Scraps said: Faith is what conspiracy theorists rely on. In my case, its more like going with the odds. Conspiracies are difficult to keep hidden. The more people involved, the harder it is to hide. Look at Trump's conviction for falsification of business records, hush money payments to a porn star, catch and kill of news stories and creation of Fake news. That only involved 3 people (Donald Trump, David ***** and Michael Cohen) and they couldn't keep it quiet. This one would have to involve more than 3 people across multiple agencies. This one would have to involve the shooter and both the Secret Service and State Police counter sniper teams, both being 2 man teams. It just doesn't make sense. I guess I have less faith in the agency doing the investigating after seeing them handle the steele dossier, Hillary‘s emails, Page, Strzok, McGonigal, McCabe, Crossfire Hurricane, viewing Catholics as potential domestic terrorists, etc. Edited July 24 by JDHillFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Scraps said: Do you know any FBI agents? I know a few and the all tend to be conservatives and Trump supporters. The idea that the FBI would be involved in a coverup over the assassination attempt on Trump is difficult for me to believe based on my experience with FBI agents. The idea of multiple members of Trump's Secret Service detail being traitors is far fetched to say the least. Congress will be engaged in significant oversight. I find it difficult to believe the results could be kept secret. The top of the FBI that spied on Trump and lied about Hunters laptop are Trump supporters? I can't wait to hear how you believe that to me true. Edited July 24 by Orlando Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I guess I have less faith in the agency doing the investigating after seeing them handle the steel dossier, Hillary‘s emails, Page, Strzok, McGonigal, McCabe, Crossfire Hurricane, viewing Catholics as potential domestic terrorists, etc. The fact that you know about all those demonstrates that the FBI can't keep such things secret now, doesn't it? 13 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The top of the FBI that spied on Trump and lied about Hunters laptop are Trump supporters? I can't wait to hear how you belong eve that to be true. That last sentence is such gibberish I can't make sense of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Just now, Scraps said: The fact that you know about all those demonstrates that the FBI can't keep such things secret now, doesn't it? I’m concerned about what I don’t know. Previous agency malfeasance combined with the stunning ineptitude surrounding the event give me pause. I’m glad for you that you have no concerns over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I’m concerned about what I don’t know. Previous agency malfeasance combined with the stunning ineptitude surrounding the event give me pause. I’m glad for you that you have no concerns over it. When you say "the event" you mean the Trump assassination attempt? If so, it would be incorrect to say I have "no concerns" over it. My concerns are more over the mistakes made that day by the Secret Service than a conspiracy to kill Trump by the Secret Service. I've explained a number of reasons why I find the conspiracy to be far fetched. I think it would involve far to many people and they would have recruited someone with the credibility to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 minutes ago, Scraps said: When you say "the event" you mean the Trump assassination attempt? If so, it would be incorrect to say I have "no concerns" over it. My concerns are more over the mistakes made that day by the Secret Service than a conspiracy to kill Trump by the Secret Service. I've explained a number of reasons why I find the conspiracy to be far fetched. I think it would involve far to many people and they would have recruited someone with the credibility to get the job done. I dont think ANYONE would recruit a kid who is mentally ill perhaps and a terrible shot. The fact that he was able to get in that position and shots off is insane. But people love conspiracies. They're posted here daily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Scraps said: When you say "the event" you mean the Trump assassination attempt? If so, it would be incorrect to say I have "no concerns" over it. My concerns are more over the mistakes made that day by the Secret Service than a conspiracy to kill Trump by the Secret Service. I've explained a number of reasons why I find the conspiracy to be far fetched. I think it would involve far to many people and they would have recruited someone with the credibility to get the job done. I believe it to be fetched, but not necessarily far. Everyone in Washington hates Trump. It’s not by party either. They all hate him. To me, it’s not beyond imagination to think there’s a small handful of people that fully bought into the nazi and threat to democracy talk and actually believe they might be doing a patriotic duty. Unlikely but I’ve witnessed enough BS the last few years to not rule it out. our government has seen fit to not release all documents related to the JFK assassination. Seems like 60 years might be enough time for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: I believe it to be fetched, but not necessarily far. Everyone in Washington hates Trump. It’s not by party either. They all hate him. To me, it’s not beyond imagination to think there’s a small handful of people that fully bought into the nazi and threat to democracy talk and actually believe they might be doing a patriotic duty. Unlikely but I’ve witnessed enough BS the last few years to not rule it out. our government has seen fit to not release all documents related to the JFK assassination. Seems like 60 years might be enough time for that to happen. Wondering if anyone here has seen the Netflix docuseries American Conspiracies: The Octopus Murders ? Pretty crazy stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: I believe it to be fetched, but not necessarily far. Everyone in Washington hates Trump. It’s not by party either. They all hate him. To me, it’s not beyond imagination to think there’s a small handful of people that fully bought into the nazi and threat to democracy talk and actually believe they might be doing a patriotic duty. Unlikely but I’ve witnessed enough BS the last few years to not rule it out. our government has seen fit to not release all documents related to the JFK assassination. Seems like 60 years might be enough time for that to happen. Well I live in the DC area and if you think everyone here hates him, you are insane. I've been involved in a number of arguments with Trump supporters and had and had a number of pro-trump neighbors trying to get me to vote for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: Wondering if anyone here has seen the Netflix docuseries American Conspiracies: The Octopus Murders ? Pretty crazy stuff there. There's crazy stuff posted here daily. Just as looney as flat earthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, Scraps said: Well I live in the DC area and if you think everyone here hates him, you are insane. I've been involved in a number of arguments with Trump supporters and had and had a number of pro-trump neighbors trying to get me to vote I was referring mostly to politicians and bureaucrats. Republican politicians hate him almost as badly as the Democrats do. Obviously there are exceptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said: There's crazy stuff posted here daily. Just as looney as flat earthers. Did you watch it. It will make you scratch your head, and it is not aligned with any party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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