Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 So if a fellow officer is having a problem drinking which leads to domestic violence, you don't support going into his house and making sure he is not drinking? Do you think he should be immediately removed? ?? 361850[/snapback] An officer accused of domestic violence is arrested FASTER than anyone else in NYC. Believe this as you choose. Officers accused of non-violent domestic incidents (such as loud verbal arguments, etc.) are already visited by Field Internal Affairs Units, as are their spouses. Next question?
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 OMG!!! Having a bad day? Well, here comes appology #2........Sorry to hurt your feelings. Happy Father's Day! Gotta admit, that last sentence WAS funny. 361851[/snapback] Actually, not. I am trying to get out of this place. You didn't hurt my feelings. I just think this smoking crusade is silly... Get over it.. You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. You throw barbs at me then come bearing roses... WTF is up with that?
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 It also comes down to being a person of honor. When told to stop doing something that is harming another, they stop. Unfortunately, we don't live in a society that likes to yield to anyone. I wonder why? Then, in a half-hearted attempt, legislative acts start to take over in place of that honor. I am not saying it (the laws) work but, they (the laws) attempt to fill the void left by the shortcomings of society at a personal level. I posted this earlier Bill. It was meant for you. 361853[/snapback] Thank you. Please, continue to educate me as to how to have "honor." All this time, I thought that I was about freedom.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 An officer accused of domestic violence is arrested FASTER than anyone else in NYC. Believe this as you choose. Officers accused of non-violent domestic incidents (such as loud verbal arguments, etc.) are already visited by Field Internal Affairs Units, as are their spouses. Next question? 361854[/snapback] Ya, right. I don't believe it.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 Thank you. Please, continue to educate me as to how to have "honor." All this time, I thought that I was about freedom. 361856[/snapback] Freedom to harm other people and unborn children? Puff away Bill.
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 Actually, not. I am trying to get out of this place. You didn't hurt my feelings. I just think this smoking crusade is silly... Get over it.. You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. You throw barbs at me then come bearing roses... WTF is up with that? 361855[/snapback] You are reading too much into it. You are a person to whom I enjoy posting, but we take different sides on almost every issue. If you wish, I will tone it down when posting to you. Again, I meant no harm.
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 Freedom to harm other people and unborn children? Puff away Bill. 361858[/snapback] Pregnant women might be wise to stay out of bars, no?
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 You are reading too much into it. You are a person to whom I enjoy posting, but we take different sides on almost every issue. If you wish, I will tone it down when posting to you. Again, I meant no harm. 361859[/snapback] Same here Bill... I should have let it go... I do get fiesty... Nothing is wrong with your assumptions. I try and relate to everything. I am not for these screwy laws but, understand the knee-jerk reaction and attempt to adapt to them... THAT'S ALL. Maybe we will meet someday and put these differences to rest?
Alaska Darin Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. 361855[/snapback] You've posted some pretty dumb and hypocritical things here over the years, but this is probably the worst of it.
Dr. Fong Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 After reading that my only real question is when was Al Sharpton coronated King of the Blacks, Defender of the N-Word, and Arbiter of all things race?
Terry Tate Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 After reading that my only real question is when was Al Sharpton coronated King of the Blacks, Defender of the N-Word, and Arbiter of all things race? November 1987.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 You've posted some pretty dumb and hypocritical things here over the years, but this is probably the worst of it. 361868[/snapback] Why is it hypocritical? He is not a cop anymore. His job was to ENFORCE the law, not make it. I can just imagine how he would act if he was still working. The law is the law. When it is your job to enforce it, you do just that. You don't undermine it, whine, kick and scream. Do your job and what is told of you. Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law? ??
Alaska Darin Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Why is it hypocritical? EXHIBIT A: Get over it.. You are retired, the law is the law... Accept it. 361855[/snapback] EXHIBIT B: Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law? 362012[/snapback]
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 EXHIBIT A: EXHIBIT B: 362079[/snapback] Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. ~Walt Whitman
Bill from NYC Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Why is it hypocritical? He is not a cop anymore. His job was to ENFORCE the law, not make it. I can just imagine how he would act if he was still working. The law is the law. When it is your job to enforce it, you do just that. You don't undermine it, whine, kick and scream. Do your job and what is told of you. Instead of crying on a message board, spend some of that retired time trying to get lawmakers to change the law? ?? 362012[/snapback] EIL, are you now taking a stand for strict enforcement of every law? If a man with a perfect driving record is driving with his wife and kids and forgets to signal when he changes lanes, are you FOR this man getting summonsed to court? Should ALL Jaywalkers be targeted as well? Police work lesson #1: You cannot survive in this business without the use of DISCRETION. Police work lesson #2: You cannot survive in this business without friends. A badge and a gun do not make one more powerful than the society one protects. One poster on this board claims to have been victimized by police (ticketed) on a holiday, in the presence of his children for something he deems minor. Truthfully his story seems sketchy but if true, that officer made an enemy both to himself, and other cops. You can't please everybody. There are times where you simply must "do what you gotta do," but trust me, it is better to strike a balance than to ride roughshod over people and simply enforce everything; which is a losing proposition, and can border on bullying and abuse.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 EIL, are you now taking a stand for strict enforcement of every law? If a man with a perfect driving record is driving with his wife and kids and forgets to signal when he changes lanes, are you FOR this man getting summonsed to court? Should ALL Jaywalkers be targeted as well? Police work lesson #1: You cannot survive in this business without the use of DISCRETION. Police work lesson #2: You cannot survive in this business without friends. A badge and a gun do not make one more powerful than the society one protects. One poster on this board claims to have been victimized by police (ticketed) on a holiday, in the presence of his children for something he deems minor. Truthfully his story seems sketchy but if true, that officer made an enemy both to himself, and other cops. You can't please everybody. There are times where you simply must "do what you gotta do," but trust me, it is better to strike a balance than to ride roughshod over people and simply enforce everything; which is a losing proposition, and can border on bullying and abuse. 362125[/snapback] I understand.
Adam Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Does anybody here even like Nader? 361323[/snapback] Luke Does- thats his father!
UConn James Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 So I read that Nader is calling for Bush's impeachment? Well, Ralph, I guess there was a difference b/w the candidates after all. Idiot. One of my older cousins, she's ~45 now, worked on one of his campaigns twenty-odd years back. My uncle, an avowed Maine Republican, voted for Nader twice on the premise that he didn't play grabass with her. If you read that expose of Nader on Salon at election time he makes John Bolton's management style look like Barney and Friends.
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