pi2000 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 get er' done Beane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If, and it’s a big if Rodgers stays healthy the Jets already have the best roster in the AFC East. They are the clear favorites to win the AFC East Rogers wasn't that good his last year in Green Bay. Even if he is healthy, he isn't the same QB he used to be. Plus, he gets wackier by the day. I'm a Rogers doubter, personally. I want to see him actually perform like he used to before I anoint the Jets as a real contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Low Positive said: Well, lucky for him that Jimmy Garoppolo is no longer on the Raiders. I doubt Adams want to stay to play with Minshew or O’Connell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 4 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I dont understand why the Raiders would do this. They are already top five in cap space for this coming season. The Jets have less cap space than the Bills so this wouldnt make sense for them either. I suppose the Raiders and 49ers could do a deal where Aiyuk is sent to the Raiders for Adams? Raiders could then give Aiyuk the long term deal he wants. I just dont see how trading him now makes much sense. The Raiders would move Adams to get draft capital. They realize their QB situation is dreadful. D Adams will be a FA at the end of the year so if they don't trade him now they get nothing for him. IMO the Bills make more sense than the Jets. The Jets already have M Williams and G Wilson. Plus the Jets are going to be paying the price for A Rodgers big contract in the future. The Bills have 2 seconds, if they float one of them out there it should be enough to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, MJS said: Rogers wasn't that good his last year in Green Bay. Even if he is healthy, he isn't the same QB he used to be. Plus, he gets wackier by the day. I'm a Rogers doubter, personally. I want to see him actually perform like he used to before I anoint the Jets as a real contender. Wasn’t that good? MVP good? No he wasn’t. He was good though. We could see a similar season from Allen, there’s a lot of similarities between the 2022 Packers and the 2024 Bills. Edited July 16 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 If Adams plays for us he won't have to worry about Rapp taking his head off....outside of practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 7 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Makes sense if you are the Raiders. They have worst QB situation in the league. Dang it. They could have swapped Zach Wilson for Adams straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 29 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: The Raiders would move Adams to get draft capital. They realize their QB situation is dreadful. D Adams will be a FA at the end of the year so if they don't trade him now they get nothing for him. IMO the Bills make more sense than the Jets. The Jets already have M Williams and G Wilson. Plus the Jets are going to be paying the price for A Rodgers big contract in the future. The Bills have 2 seconds, if they float one of them out there it should be enough to get it done. Adams has 3 years left on his contact. 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Wasn’t that good? MVP good? No he wasn’t. He was good though. We could see a similar season from Allen, there’s a lot of similarities between the 2022 Packers and the 2024 Bills. Except Josh isn’t old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Doc said: Adams has 3 years left on his contact. Except Josh isn’t old. Josh also has never been as good a passer as Rodgers. I happen to think Allen will have more efficient numbers with WR by committee approach, but we’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Adams has 3 years left on his contact. Except Josh isn’t old. My error. It's not his contract but his cap hit that makes the Raiders want to move him. D Adams is scheduled for $35M base next year, I doubt that's in anyone's plans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Wasn’t that good? MVP good? No he wasn’t. He was good though. We could see a similar season from Allen, there’s a lot of similarities between the 2022 Packers and the 2024 Bills. Rogers wasn't an MVP his final season in Green Bay. He was the two years before that, though. No, I don't think he was that good in 2022, certainly not an elite level QB. 3,600 yards (11th), 26 TD's (7th), 12 INT's (7th most), 91.1 rating (16th). He was above average, maybe. And now he is two years removed from that, coming off a torn achilles, and 40 years old. So, call me skeptical. The cliff is usually steep for these guys to fall off of, for everyone but Tom Brady, it seems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, MJS said: Rogers wasn't an MVP his final season in Green Bay. He was the two years before that, though. No, I don't think he was that good in 2022, certainly not an elite level QB. 3,600 yards (11th), 26 TD's (7th), 12 INT's (7th most), 91.1 rating (16th). He was above average, maybe. And now he is two years removed from that, coming off a torn achilles, and 40 years old. So, call me skeptical. The cliff is usually steep for these guys to fall off of, for everyone but Tom Brady, it seems. His WR1 was Allen Lazard and he still finished 7th in TD passes. Now he has Garrett Wilson, Mike Williams, and Lazard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 If it's for a 3rd round pick, I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 43 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If it's for a 3rd round pick, I'm in Could depend on the contract and how much the Raiders take in. We have 2 second round picks, maybe give up ours. Getting Adams for 2-3 years at the $20M range might be easier for the FO to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 He's older than Diggs.... Rather trade for Aiyuk but he will require a contract where Adams is under contract for 3 more years I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: He's older than Diggs.... Rather trade for Aiyuk but he will require a contract where Adams is under contract for 3 more years I believe. They didn’t trade Diggs because he’s old. They traded him because he became a pain in the rear to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Josh also has never been as good a passer as Rodgers. I happen to think Allen will have more efficient numbers with WR by committee approach, but we’ll see. I'd put Josh's passing ability up against Rodgers' anyday after calling their first several seasons (Rodgers' 3 years sitting behind Favre and Josh's 2 years making himself a better passer) a wash. I'd also say he's the better overall player you you factor in scrambling ability. Whether he has the longevity is the biggest question. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: The Raiders would move Adams to get draft capital. They realize their QB situation is dreadful. D Adams will be a FA at the end of the year so if they don't trade him now they get nothing for him. IMO the Bills make more sense than the Jets. The Jets already have M Williams and G Wilson. Plus the Jets are going to be paying the price for A Rodgers big contract in the future. The Bills have 2 seconds, if they float one of them out there it should be enough to get it done. He wont be a free agent at the end of this year unless the Raiders release him at the end of the season and eat 15.7 million dollars in contract. He is signed until 2026 with a potential out after this season. Edited July 16 by thenorthremembers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 9 hours ago, 4th&long said: I was wishing the bills would go get Adam’s and save him from the raiders. i was watching the series receiver on Netflix, what struck me most was despite his extreme frustration and anger in the heat of the moment DURING the game he was still a good teammate. I’m ready to do a sit in outside the stadium demanding the team make a trade for him! I kind of don't want anything to do with Adams after watching that series. I understood his frustrations, but it was his choice to go Vegas. Even with Carr at QB, they were going to suck. How did he not see it coming? There wasn't a better QB/WR duo in the league than he and Rodgers. Why F that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 11 hours ago, Gregg said: If Rodgers stays healthy. Tyrod Taylor isn't exactly chopped liver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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