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25 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Scandalous! The lid has just been blown off this election! Lanny Davis as a contact is disqualifying. 
 

How could you have watched the debate and believe Joe Biden is mentally fit for the presidency? 

No, there's nothing that interesting in his Venmo contact. I really did mean this as a reminder to people.

 

And could you move on from the Biden thing?

It's really a pretty commonly held view if you'd get out more often. People have mentioned Nate Silver here as a pundit guru. I like reading him. Guess what? He goes away beyond me, thinking that Biden is in seriously bad physical/mental health. And yet he says he would vote for Biden over Trump in a heartbeat if that's the choice he's given.

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

No, there's nothing that interesting in his Venmo contact. I really did mean this as a reminder to people.

 

And could you move on from the Biden thing?

It's really a pretty commonly held view if you'd get out more often. People have mentioned Nate Silver here as a pundit guru. I like reading him. Guess what? He goes away beyond me, thinking that Biden is in seriously bad physical/mental health. And yet he says he would vote for Biden over Trump in a heartbeat if that's the choice he's given.

I have no problem with never-Trumpers. There are millions of them. The idea that a single one of them would watch that debate and afterward declare Biden mentally fit for the most important job in the world is so ridiculous that it merits mockery. 

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Oh ya, he will really fix those hill billies and give them a work ethic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly_Elegy

Alongside his personal history, Vance raises questions about the responsibility of his family and people for their misfortune. Vance blames hillbilly culture and its supposed encouragement of social rot. Comparatively, he feels that economic insecurity plays a much lesser role. To lend credence to his argument, Vance regularly relies on personal experience. As a grocery store checkout cashier, he watched welfare recipients talk on cell phones, although the working Vance could not afford one.[2]

His resentment of those who seemed to profit from poor behavior while he struggled, especially combined with his values of personal responsibility and tough love, is presented as a microcosm of the reason for Appalachia's overall political swing from strong Democratic to strong Republican affiliations. Likewise, he recounts stories intended to showcase a lack of work ethic, including the story of a man who quit, after expressing dislike over his job's hours and posted to social media about the "Obama economy", as well as a co-worker, with a pregnant girlfriend, who would skip work.[2]

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On 7/18/2024 at 8:55 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

Friendly reminder: Venmo default is "transactions are public."

 

https://www.wired.com/story/jd-vance-venmo/

Joe Biden partners with white supremacists, paws women, carelessly and recklessly handles and discloses classified documents for decades, lies about his background, regularly vacations with billionaires and powerful people he claims avoid their fair share for decades, and is shaking apart mentally over a several year period…JP Vance venmo.  
 

Go figs. 

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Among them is Amalia Halikias, government relations director at the Heritage Foundation—the conservative think tank coordinating the controversial Project 2025. 

 

Wait I thought Project 2025 is Trump's thing? What's this nonsense about the Heritage Foundation?

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6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

Lying is a sin Tibs.

 

It just shows how weak your position is.

 

 

 

Added:  You so rarely give any link when you make your over the top claims.  Why is that ?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Lying is a sin Tibs.

 

It just shows how weak your position is.

 

 

 

Added:  You so rarely give any link when you make your over the top claims.  Why is that ?

 

 

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He's Mr. Ban Abortion! Harris will eat that up.

 

Trump is the guy who appointed the judges that took away a women's right.

 

That's the main issue in the election

 

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It strikes me that Vance has one seriously underestimated talent: the ability to suck up to his bosses in the most committed way.

How does a kid from a small town with a broken family sign up for the Marines after high school and wind up with a cushy assignment doing publicity/"reporting" for the Marine Corps? 

How does a kid from a state school somehow become the protege of law prof/author Amy Chua (of the best-selling Tiger Mom book)?

How does a kid from Yale Law not follow the standard Yale Law career path - the one followed by his wife, clerking for top federal judges - but instead becomes the protege of billionaire Peter Thiel, never practicing law at all and despite having no background in finance/venture capital?

And how does this same young man viciously criticize charlatan Donald Trump only to become a truer believer in Trumpism than Trump himself?

 

He is smart and talented, but face facts: some of that talent is a rare talent at bs and sucking up to the rich and powerful. He is hugely ambitious, and now at 39, without any real record of success in any actual job (other than as a memoirist) he now finds himself the leading candidate to be president in 2029, if not sooner (Trump is no spring chicken). There's some good stories out there about his meteoric rise that we'll be hearing more about as the campaign continues.

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1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

It strikes me that Vance has one seriously underestimated talent: the ability to suck up to his bosses in the most committed way.

How does a kid from a small town with a broken family sign up for the Marines after high school and wind up with a cushy assignment doing publicity/"reporting" for the Marine Corps? 

How does a kid from a state school somehow become the protege of law prof/author Amy Chua (of the best-selling Tiger Mom book)?

How does a kid from Yale Law not follow the standard Yale Law career path - the one followed by his wife, clerking for top federal judges - but instead becomes the protege of billionaire Peter Thiel, never practicing law at all and despite having no background in finance/venture capital?

And how does this same young man viciously criticize charlatan Donald Trump only to become a truer believer in Trumpism than Trump himself?

 

He is smart and talented, but face facts: some of that talent is a rare talent at bs and sucking up to the rich and powerful. He is hugely ambitious, and now at 39, without any real record of success in any actual job (other than as a memoirist) he now finds himself the leading candidate to be president in 2029, if not sooner (Trump is no spring chicken). There's some good stories out there about his meteoric rise that we'll be hearing more about as the campaign continues.

“Succeeding is no indication of success”

 

-you

 

Maybe he can add community organizer to his resume in time for the election. 


A question - did you watch the presidential debate?

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Just now, JDHillFan said:

“Succeeding is no indication of success”

 

-you

 

Maybe he can add community organizer to his resume in time for the election. 


A question - did you watch the presidential debate?

 

 

You "J.D.'s" stick together, don't you.

 

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1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:

“Succeeding is no indication of success”

 

-you

 

Maybe he can add community organizer to his resume in time for the election. 


A question - did you watch the presidential debate?

A question: didn't people say the same things about Obama?

And they were right to ask about who this man really was.

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15 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

It strikes me that Vance has one seriously underestimated talent: the ability to suck up to his bosses in the most committed way.

How does a kid from a small town with a broken family sign up for the Marines after high school and wind up with a cushy assignment doing publicity/"reporting" for the Marine Corps? 

How does a kid from a state school somehow become the protege of law prof/author Amy Chua (of the best-selling Tiger Mom book)?

How does a kid from Yale Law not follow the standard Yale Law career path - the one followed by his wife, clerking for top federal judges - but instead becomes the protege of billionaire Peter Thiel, never practicing law at all and despite having no background in finance/venture capital?

And how does this same young man viciously criticize charlatan Donald Trump only to become a truer believer in Trumpism than Trump himself?

 

He is smart and talented, but face facts: some of that talent is a rare talent at bs and sucking up to the rich and powerful. He is hugely ambitious, and now at 39, without any real record of success in any actual job (other than as a memoirist) he now finds himself the leading candidate to be president in 2029, if not sooner (Trump is no spring chicken). There's some good stories out there about his meteoric rise that we'll be hearing more about as the campaign continues.

And even his Senate run. He WAY under performed the rest of the GOP field. He barely won in a pretty red state where the governor got 60% of the vote.

 

He's trying to suck up to the Hill Billies and such, but that will only get you so far. I'm betting he is a flash in the pan

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