Is Josh Allen already the best dual-threat QB ever?

[Chaos]

4 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Imagine anyone with a functioning arm with Rice and Walsh

So you are saying Steve Young is nothing special?

[oldmanfan]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

So you are saying Steve Young is nothing special?

Steve Young is a HOFer.   Very talented guy, but anyone would be helped by having Rice to throw to and Walsh to design plays.

[ganesh]

On 7/17/2024 at 10:25 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Imagine Josh Allen with Andy Reid, Tyreek Hill and Trevis Kelce 

one will never know....just like Mahomes with Diggs and McDermott

[strive_for_five_guy]

On 7/15/2024 at 1:44 PM, Logic said:

It is amazing -- absolutely amazing -- how much a Super Bowl championship can change a player's legacy.

I think Josh needs one championship to be considered the greatest dual threat QB of all time, assuming he more or less continues on his current statistical pace. Just one. Super Bowl MVP would be helpful, too.

Without it, there's still a chance he winds up being called the greatest dual threat ever. But to illustrate how much weight a championship carries, consider Dan Marino. He's already an all-time great and a Hall of Famer, but think of how much differently we would view his legacy if he had won a Lombardi or two. 

Another one I think about is Brett Favre. He's the most direct comparison to Josh I can think of, in terms of his mercurial nature as a player. Absolute brilliance and heroics one moment, absolute bone-headed interception the next. And yet, we will always remember him as a top 10, all time great. Why? Two Lombardis. Comparatively, how would he be remembered overall if he hadn't won any?







 

I think it’s either a Super Bowl win, or at least some league-wide accolades like MVP or OPOY.  Otherwise, I think it’s still debatable with some of the other names being thrown around v Allen.

[Nephilim17]

He's the best passer of any elite QB runner ever.

[Radar]

On 7/16/2024 at 2:15 AM, BullBuchanan said:

Young and Elway are still considerably ahead of him. I'm also taking Mahomes ahead of him regardless of category, because while Allen might rush for more yards, Mahomes is an excellent and effective runner of the football, but he doesn't rely on it nearly as much as Allen. I don't really care that Allen piles up personal stats in the regular season.

Good points.