Allen's Playoff Stats vs Burrow & Jackson Combined - Not "Inflated..."

[BigDingus]

So I recently got a bit irritated after hearing a segment that mentioned Allen's playoff stats being "inflated" due to the Pats game... as if that's the reason his stats look so good overall.

 

They were also talking about Burrow & Lamar, but they seem to always get the benefit of the doubt due to Lamar's 2 x MVPs & Burrow's SB appearance & beating the Chiefs. So I decided I'd comb through all their stats & see how "inflated" Allen's stats truly are.

 

Allen (Without Pats Game) - 9 Games:

- 63.2 % Comp. / 2,912 TOT YDS / 323.5 TOT YPG / 22 TDs / 4 INTs / 95.5 RTG / 61.5 QBR

 

Burrow - 7 Games:

- 67.3% Comp. / 1,927 TOT YDS / 275.3 TOT YPG / 9 TDs / 4 INTs / 93.8 RTG / 52.6 QBR

 

Jackson - 6 Games:

- 57.4% Comp. / 1,845 TOT YDS / 307.5 TOT YPG / 9 TDS / 6 INTs / 75.7 RTG / 50.6 QBR

 

*** Burrow has a higher completion percentage, and that's it. Jackson comes in dead last in every category.***

 

 

 

Ok,  now a hater might say "well Josh played 2 more games than Burrow & 3 more than Lamar!" so in that case, I'll combine the 2 and do their average over 13 games, AND I'll do another where I just cherry pick each player's BEST avg stat for each category:

 

 

Burrow + Jackson (Combined Totals & Averages) - 13 Games:

- 62.4% Comp. / 3,772 TOT YDS / 290.2 TOT YPG / 18 Total TDs / 10 Total INTs / 84.8 RTG / 51.6 RTG

 

***In 4 more games, they average less YPG, have less TDs & more than double the INTs***

 

Burrow + Jackson (Cherry Picked BEST Averages):

- 67.3% Comp. / 307.5 TOT YPG / 1.5 TDs Per Game / 0.6 INTs Per Game / 93.8 RTG / 52.6 QBR

 

Allen's Averages for same stats (Without Pats Game):

- 63.2% Comp. / 323.5 TOT YPG / 2.4 TDs Per Game / 0.4 INTs Per Game / 95.5 RTG / 61.5 QBR

 

*** Even when cherry-picking the best stats of both Lamar & Burrow OR using their combined numbers, Josh has more total TDs, more TDs per game, more YPG, less INTs per game, a higher passer rating and a higher QBR!***

 

 

In conclusion, it's clear as day that no matter how you break it down, Allen has played SIGNIFICANTLY better than Jackson & Burrow. Again, this is WITHOUT the Pats game to "inflate" his numbers. That's 5 x TDs, 350+ total yards, a 130 passer rating & 98.8 QBR not accounted for, yet he still out performs Burrow & Jackson's individual and combined totals & averages.

 

The END!

[SCBills]

Burrow is bizarro Josh Allen

 

Hasn’t been impressive in the playoffs but everyone thinks he is because of his team/coaches carrying him to the Super Bowl. 
 

Josh Allen has been a playoff monster who casuals don’t view as such due to being let down, constantly, by the team/coaches around him. 
 

Lamar shouldn’t even factor into any postseason discussion.  The man has played one good half. 

[GoBills808]

I mean he outperforms everybody in the playoffs

 

 

And if you're taking out Allen's game vs pats you should take out burrows game vs us😂😂

[BringBackFergy]

But but but, Josh turns the ball over. Lamar is most valuable…just because. 

[Neo]

I think Brady’s super bowl wins inflate his status, too.  /s.

 

Why would anyone argue to take a game out?

[MJS]

Wait, who made this claim? It is a ridiculous farce of a claim. For one thing, why should a QB have to remove his best game from his stats? That game happened. For another thing, Josh Allen has been incredible in the playoffs almost without fail. Anyone who doesn't know that has not been paying attention.

 

That's one of the indicators that he is indeed an elite QB. He brings his best game in the playoffs, when it matters most.

[Mikie2times]

 

 

 

These are the stats from the divisional round or later. It's per game averages for comparison. Lamar is certainly last in this conversation. After that you can make an argument for Burrow or Allen then Mahomes. 

 

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

 

 

 

These are the stats from the divisional round or later. It's per game averages for comparison. Lamar is certainly last in this conversation. After that you can make an argument for Burrow or Allen then Mahomes. 

 

Add in rushing 

[Nephilim17]

Josh's stats and just slightly better than average defense should be taking us to at least one Super Bowl.

Meaning past tense: we should have gone to at least one Superbowl with a QB playing that well in the playoffs. If the D was not exceptional but decent.

Edited July 8 by Nephilim17

[Mikie2times]

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Add in rushing 

 

 

 

Rushing stats are in yellow

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

 

 

 

Rushing stats are in yellow

And receiving😂😂

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, BigDingus said:

So I recently got a bit irritated after hearing a segment that mentioned Allen's playoff stats being "inflated" due to the Pats game... as if that's the reason his stats look so good overall.

 

They were also talking about Burrow & Lamar, but they seem to always get the benefit of the doubt due to Lamar's 2 x MVPs & Burrow's SB appearance & beating the Chiefs. So I decided I'd comb through all their stats & see how "inflated" Allen's stats truly are.

 

Allen (Without Pats Game) - 9 Games:

- 63.2 % Comp. / 2,912 TOT YDS / 323.5 TOT YPG / 22 TDs / 4 INTs / 95.5 RTG / 61.5 QBR

 

Burrow - 7 Games:

- 67.3% Comp. / 1,927 TOT YDS / 275.3 TOT YPG / 9 TDs / 4 INTs / 93.8 RTG / 52.6 QBR

 

Jackson - 6 Games:

- 57.4% Comp. / 1,845 TOT YDS / 307.5 TOT YPG / 9 TDS / 6 INTs / 75.7 RTG / 50.6 QBR

 

*** Burrow has a higher completion percentage, and that's it. Jackson comes in dead last in every category.***

 

 

 

Ok,  now a hater might say "well Josh played 2 more games than Burrow & 3 more than Lamar!" so in that case, I'll combine the 2 and do their average over 13 games, AND I'll do another where I just cherry pick each player's BEST avg stat for each category:

 

 

Burrow + Jackson (Combined Totals & Averages) - 13 Games:

- 62.4% Comp. / 3,772 TOT YDS / 290.2 TOT YPG / 18 Total TDs / 10 Total INTs / 84.8 RTG / 51.6 RTG

 

***In 4 more games, they average less YPG, have less TDs & more than double the INTs***

 

Burrow + Jackson (Cherry Picked BEST Averages):

- 67.3% Comp. / 307.5 TOT YPG / 1.5 TDs Per Game / 0.6 INTs Per Game / 93.8 RTG / 52.6 QBR

 

Allen's Averages for same stats (Without Pats Game):

- 63.2% Comp. / 323.5 TOT YPG / 2.4 TDs Per Game / 0.4 INTs Per Game / 95.5 RTG / 61.5 QBR

 

*** Even when cherry-picking the best stats of both Lamar & Burrow OR using their combined numbers, Josh has more total TDs, more TDs per game, more YPG, less INTs per game, a higher passer rating and a higher QBR!***

 

 

In conclusion, it's clear as day that no matter how you break it down, Allen has played SIGNIFICANTLY better than Jackson & Burrow. Again, this is WITHOUT the Pats game to "inflate" his numbers. That's 5 x TDs, 350+ total yards, a 130 passer rating & 98.8 QBR not accounted for, yet he still out performs Burrow & Jackson's individual and combined totals & averages.

 

The END!

Lamar is a hack in the postseason, and Burrow hasn’t had a really awesome statistical run. 
 

Josh clears both dudes.

[US Egg]

…..a bit irritated? 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:

Josh's stats and just slightly better than average defense should be taking us to at least one Super Bowl.

Meaning past tense: we should have gone to at least one Superbowl with a QB playing that well in the playoffs. If the D was not exceptional but decent.

Well, it isn't quite that simple when you have a dynasty like the Chiefs to get through. Maybe in a different time and in a different conference you could say that, but that's not the case right now. Hopefully this year will be different.

[machine gun kelly]

Why take out the Pats game as I’d like to see that data in its completion.  The other solid point made in this thread is Allen’s rushing yards.  You can’t parse out stats. Just place all in there and you’ll see Allen is close to Mahomes.  I hate when people take out Allen’s rushing stats as yards are yards.  It’s an integral part of his game.

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, SCBills said:

Burrow is bizarro Josh Allen

 

Hasn’t been impressive in the playoffs but everyone thinks he is because of his team/coaches carrying him to the Super Bowl. 
 

Josh Allen has been a playoff monster who casuals don’t view as such due to being let down, constantly, by the team/coaches around him. 
 

Lamar shouldn’t even factor into any postseason discussion.  The man has played one good half. 

 

This is spot on

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

Burrow is bizarro Josh Allen

 

Hasn’t been impressive in the playoffs but everyone thinks he is because of his team/coaches carrying him to the Super Bowl. 
 

Josh Allen has been a playoff monster who casuals don’t view as such due to being let down, constantly, by the team/coaches around him. 
 

Lamar shouldn’t even factor into any postseason discussion.  The man has played one good half. 

Ok but their only head to head matchup was pretty ugly and our offense was healthy that day.  That's what the casual fan remembers when comparing those two in the playoffs.  

 

Burrow:  22 for 36, 242 yards, 2 TD's, 0 INT, 6 rushes for 31 yards (0 TD), 77.9 QBR, 101.9 passer rating

Allen:     25 for 42, 264 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT, 8 rushes for 26 yards (1 TD), 57.6 QBR, 68.0 passer rating

 

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Ok but their only head to head matchup was pretty ugly and our offense was healthy that day.  That's what the casual fan remembers when comparing those two in the playoffs.  

 

Burrow:  22 for 36, 242 yards, 2 TD's, 0 INT, 6 rushes for 31 yards (0 TD), 77.9 QBR, 101.9 passer rating

Allen:     25 for 42, 264 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT, 8 rushes for 26 yards (1 TD), 57.6 QBR, 68.0 passer rating

 

 

 

 

This is absolutely fair to mention, but it also doesn't tell the full story.  There was the non-football stuff like Punt Gods fake rape case, Knox's brother dying in preseason, multiple blizzards killing many people in Buffalo, the mass murder shooting, and of course Hamlin dying on the field.  The whole team, not just Allen, came out emotionally flat that game like it all just caught up with them.

 

Then there was the football stuff...that roster was not built to play in bad weather outside of Josh Allen.  It is also one of the reasons Beane has made some of the peronnel decisions this year that he did, he flat out stated he wanted to get tougher, wanted guys who had an edge to them.   He knows this team was too soft at times in the playoffs. 

 

And in a bad weather game where passing is always going to be tougher, we didn't have a mauling OL or run game and we had a first time OC who was way over his head and grossly out coached and who would be fired 10 games later.  That team got trounced in the trenches on both sides of the ball and no one on that offense was doing anything to help Allen either.  

 

Not making excuses for Allen, he gets his share of the blame too, but more stating that was a team wide crap fest, coaches included.  The Bengals DL dominated our OL that game, and anytime you do that, the offense is usually not going to perform well.  

[Matt_In_NH]

8 hours ago, SCBills said:

Burrow is bizarro Josh Allen

 

Hasn’t been impressive in the playoffs but everyone thinks he is because of his team/coaches carrying him to the Super Bowl. 
 

Josh Allen has been a playoff monster who casuals don’t view as such due to being let down, constantly, by the team/coaches around him. 
 

Lamar shouldn’t even factor into any postseason discussion.  The man has played one good half. 

I don't agree with this....the year they went to the SB, he made some money plays to get past the Chiefs at critical moments.  It is also true Josh Allen's playoff performance is superior to Burrow overall.  Burrow has been very good in the post season.  Plus when they went head to head he outperformed Allen in that one game.   Burrow has been to the playoffs twice, once he made it to the SB and once tot he championship game.  Allen has made it 5 times and only made one championship game.  Now you can consider the team aspect of all of that but the reality is QB's are judged on team performance, especially in the playoffs.

[SectionC3]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This is absolutely fair to mention, but it also doesn't tell the full story.  There was the non-football stuff like Punt Gods fake rape case, Knox's brother dying in preseason, multiple blizzards killing many people in Buffalo, the mass murder shooting, and of course Hamlin dying on the field.  The whole team, not just Allen, came out emotionally flat that game like it all just caught up with them.

 

Then there was the football stuff...that roster was not built to play in bad weather outside of Josh Allen.  It is also one of the reasons Beane has made some of the peronnel decisions this year that he did, he flat out stated he wanted to get tougher, wanted guys who had an edge to them.   He knows this team was too soft at times in the playoffs. 

 

And in a bad weather game where passing is always going to be tougher, we didn't have a mauling OL or run game and we had a first time OC who was way over his head and grossly out coached and who would be fired 10 games later.  That team got trounced in the trenches on both sides of the ball and no one on that offense was doing anything to help Allen either.  

 

Not making excuses for Allen, he gets his share of the blame too, but more stating that was a team wide crap fest, coaches included.  The Bengals DL dominated our OL that game, and anytime you do that, the offense is usually not going to perform well.  

I think the culmination of a lot of domestic drama the night before the Bengals game was sort of the last straw in all of the emotional insanity of 2022.  It was a combination of all of those factors and then one little chef's kiss the night before the game.