Punching Bag Posted Friday at 03:03 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:03 PM https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40476279/jon-gruden-loses-bid-reconsideration-nfl-lawsuit Gruden may be another affected by the great experiments by Goodfornothingell Quote LAS VEGAS -- Jon Gruden lost a bid for the Nevada Supreme Court to reconsider whether a contract interference and conspiracy. .... Two justices said Gruden understood the NFL constitution allowed for arbitration to resolve disputes, and said it wasn't clear whether Goodell or a designated third-party arbitrator would hear Gruden's case. ... One justice wrote that allowing Goodell to arbitrate a dispute in which he is a named party would be "outrageous." .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted Friday at 09:20 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:20 PM While I support the decision of the NFL not to hire him I think ESPN did him completely dirty by leaking his emails. He's a douche anyway 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted Friday at 10:01 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:01 PM 29 minutes ago, boyst said: While I support the decision of the NFL not to hire him I think ESPN did him completely dirty by leaking his emails. He's a douche anyway Serious question, do we know that it was ESPN? Wasn’t some of this while with the Raiders? Was it from the Redskin cesspool? I didn’t care enough to know all the details then, and I remember much less now. I thought the “how they got out” was fuzzy, but I could have it all wrong. Also, I am admittedly not a Gruden fan, so full disclosure there. Not only was I in the Tampa market before and after his tenure, but we crossed paths as our sons would attend the same 7 on 7’s camps at USF. He is very easy to not like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted Saturday at 06:56 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:56 AM 8 hours ago, Augie said: Serious question, do we know that it was ESPN? Wasn’t some of this while with the Raiders? Was it from the Redskin cesspool? I didn’t care enough to know all the details then, and I remember much less now. I thought the “how they got out” was fuzzy, but I could have it all wrong. Also, I am admittedly not a Gruden fan, so full disclosure there. Not only was I in the Tampa market before and after his tenure, but we crossed paths as our sons would attend the same 7 on 7’s camps at USF. He is very easy to not like. That's how he's always seemed. Very in control of his image. On his TV show he seemed great, but when not focusing on it, like a jerk. No big Gruden fan, but I've always thought it was the Skins, who were even bigger jerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted Saturday at 07:29 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:29 AM 10 hours ago, boyst said: While I support the decision of the NFL not to hire him I think ESPN did him completely dirty by leaking his emails. He's a douche anyway We have no clue who leaked the e-mails. When Congress investigated they concluded that the Commanders released them but the Commanders denied it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted Saturday at 10:52 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:52 AM 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: We have no clue who leaked the e-mails. When Congress investigated they concluded that the Commanders released them but the Commanders denied it. Considering they lied as often as New England cheating that does not mean much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted Saturday at 11:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:41 AM I hate when people a blackballed from earning a living based on conjecture. But his emails are pretty d@mning and I struggle to feel bad for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted Saturday at 11:54 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:54 AM Jon Gruden Bwahahahaha… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted Saturday at 12:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:05 PM 23 minutes ago, JP51 said: I hate when people a blackballed from earning a living based on conjecture. But his emails are pretty d@mning and I struggle to feel bad for him Don't think this was conjecture 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted Saturday at 12:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:14 PM Cry me a river for Jon Gruden, a racist pig who got what he deserved when the leaked emails exposed him for the hypocrite he is. This isn't an issue of someone being falsely accused of doing wrong or being denied the opportunity to rectify an "injustice". It's simply a ruling on a legal proceeding. If Gruden doesn't like the rules under which his lawsuit moves forward, he can always withdraw it. Thumbs up for whomever leaked the emails BTW. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted Saturday at 02:30 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:30 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, SoTier said: Cry me a river for Jon Gruden, a racist pig who got what he deserved when the leaked emails exposed him for the hypocrite he is. This isn't an issue of someone being falsely accused of doing wrong or being denied the opportunity to rectify an "injustice". It's simply a ruling on a legal proceeding. If Gruden doesn't like the rules under which his lawsuit moves forward, he can always withdraw it. Thumbs up for whomever leaked the emails BTW. There were some people that defended Gruden when this went down in regard to the "Rubber lips" comment he made to I think it was Upshaw or Demaurice Smith at the time. It was a phrase that Gruden used frequently to call out anyone he thought was lying to him. Because he said it in an email to Upshaw, people took it as a racist statement. But I saw different people who knew Gruden defend him when he said that Edited Saturday at 02:31 PM by Buffalo03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted Saturday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:33 PM (edited) Great to hear. I thought it was ridiculous (and onerous) a few years ago when several on here said how he would really hurt the league with all that he knows. And that he would likely win big in his lawsuit. But it was heartening that it was only a small percentage of posters. Supporting an ignorant, racist moron is never a good luck. Good riddance, chucky. Edited Saturday at 02:37 PM by Mister Defense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted Saturday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:25 PM 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: It was a phrase that Gruden used frequently to call out anyone he thought was lying to him. Because he said it in an email to Upshaw, people took it as a racist statement. But I saw different people who knew Gruden defend him when he said tha The mob has decided he is racist, so he is. Why let facts get in the way. BTW I'm not sure of the facts in this case anyway, just saying that to most people it doesn't matter, they just want to look all pure. And you know, some people can say racist insults yet not really be racists. And I'm sure it happens often on the field too. But hey, we have to be perfect now, the mob demands it. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM 4 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: The mob has decided he is racist, so he is. Why let facts get in the way. BTW I'm not sure of the facts in this case anyway, just saying that to most people it doesn't matter, they just want to look all pure. And you know, some people can say racist insults yet not really be racists. And I'm sure it happens often on the field too. But hey, we have to be perfect now, the mob demands it. Lots of perfect people with perfect pasts in this thread. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted Saturday at 07:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:33 PM 2 hours ago, Jerome007 said: The mob has decided he is racist, so he is. Why let facts get in the way. BTW I'm not sure of the facts in this case anyway, just saying that to most people it doesn't matter, they just want to look all pure. And you know, some people can say racist insults yet not really be racists. And I'm sure it happens often on the field too. But hey, we have to be perfect now, the mob demands it. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp Gruden had a treasure trove of emails over 7-8 years in which he routinely used racist , homophobic , misogynistic language . Not sure how one would not conclude that gruden was a bigot . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted yesterday at 01:45 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:45 PM 20 hours ago, Jerome007 said: The mob has decided he is racist, so he is. Why let facts get in the way. BTW I'm not sure of the facts in this case anyway, just saying that to most people it doesn't matter, they just want to look all pure. And you know, some people can say racist insults yet not really be racists. And I'm sure it happens often on the field too. But hey, we have to be perfect now, the mob demands it. Well the mob definitely decided that Matt Azaria is a rap… oh wait 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted yesterday at 01:51 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:51 PM 20 hours ago, Jerome007 said: The mob has decided he is racist, so he is. Why let facts get in the way. BTW I'm not sure of the facts in this case anyway, just saying that to most people it doesn't matter, they just want to look all pure. And you know, some people can say racist insults yet not really be racists. And I'm sure it happens often on the field too. But hey, we have to be perfect now, the mob demands it. No, if you use racist insults you are racist, despite any good intentions or self denial that person might have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM Forced arbitration clauses should be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted yesterday at 02:38 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:38 PM 19 hours ago, prissythecat said: Gruden had a treasure trove of emails over 7-8 years in which he routinely used racist , homophobic , misogynistic language . Not sure how one would not conclude that gruden was a bigot . Homophobic comments, yes. Racist… there’s some nuance there. The only “racist” thing Gruden emailed is that DeMaurice Smith has huge lips. When asked about it, Gruden said he was referring to Smith’s propensity to lie and he often refers to liars as rubber lips. Considering that Mr. Smith does not in actuality have large lips, one may be led to believe Grudens explanation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted yesterday at 03:58 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:58 PM 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Homophobic comments, yes. Racist… there’s some nuance there. The only “racist” thing Gruden emailed is that DeMaurice Smith has huge lips. When asked about it, Gruden said he was referring to Smith’s propensity to lie and he often refers to liars as rubber lips. Considering that Mr. Smith does not in actuality have large lips, one may be led to believe Grudens explanation. didn’t Gruden’’s email say that Smith has lips “the size of Michelin tires “? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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