Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go.

[Tiberius]

Go! This is insane 

[phypon]

What can be unburdened, by what has been.

 

Let me say it again with hand motions:

What can be unburdened, by what has been.

 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

Someone’s world is spinning backwards. 

[BuffaninSarasota]

The king of non sequiturs strikes again

[Tommy Callahan]

In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is described as the mental disturbance people feel when their beliefs and actions are inconsistent and contradictory, ultimately encouraging some change (often either in their beliefs or actions) to align better and reduce this dissonance.[1] Relevant items of information include peoples' actions, feelings, ideas, beliefs, values, and things in the environment. Cognitive dissonance is typically experienced as psychological stress when persons participate in an action that goes against one or more of those things. According to this theory, when an action or idea is psychologically inconsistent with the other, people do all in their power to change either so that they become consistent. The discomfort is triggered by the person's belief clashing with new information perceived, wherein the individual tries to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.[1]

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

That's right, you guys are running an ally of Putin. Wow 

 

And he might win. A mass murdering tyrant will have a friend in the WH. 

 

Wow 

 

Nothing to worry about...

[Tommy Callahan]

I got a great price on brisket at Sam's the other day .  Been in the smoker since last night.  I wraped to get through the stall.

 

Then I will trim up the ends for actual beef burnt ends (pork burnt ends are not the same). Got some vinegar/mustard slop for burnt ends. 

 

Nothing but kosher salt and pepper on the brisket.  

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

I got a great price on brisket at Sam's the other day .  Been in the smoker since last night.  I wraped to get through the stall.

 

Then I will trim up the ends for actual beef burnt ends (pork burnt ends are not the same). Got some vinegar/mustard slop for burnt ends. 

 

Nothing but kosher salt and pepper on the brisket.  

 

 

 

 

I'm boiling potatoes for mashed potatoes to mix in the stewing beef I cooked. Gonna have broccoli and mixed veggies with it 

[B-Man]

32 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

Pretty fancy way of saying "Get Lost" !

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Cromwell sucks.   --- Irish -American

 

.

[Tiberius]

 

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/04/kamala-harris-replace-biden-2024-election

How it works: We gamed out potential scenarios with some of the nation's most experienced Democratic operatives. Most feel strongly that for both political and practical reasons, Harris looks all but unbeatable.

If Biden "got there" on deciding to throw in the towel, top Democrats expect he would announce he was endorsing Harris — his running mate in 2020, and partner in governing for the past three years. White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said during her briefing Wednesday that one of the reasons Biden picked her back in 2020 "is because she is, indeed, the future of the party."

One reason to go that route is to avoid the mayhem of a wide-open convention in Chicago beginning Aug. 19. That would take Democrats' focus off Trump while they scrambled, knifed and preened.

Harris as nominee, or perhaps president, would become part of Biden's legacy, which matters a lot to him — a proud, stubborn man who's been in public life for 50+ years.

Then there's the practicality: If you're eyeing the 2028 nomination, you're thinking about the base. Do you really want to torpedo Harris' chance to become the first woman president of color? What are your real chances of defeating Harris and her formidable apparatus (White House, DNC, Biden-Harris campaign) when you're less well-known nationally than she is — then beating the Trump machine, with its huge head start, in the 75 days between the Democratic convention and Election Day?

Behind the scenes: Let's say Biden didn't endorse, or Democratic leaders insisted on a process. At the highest levels of the party, there's talk of a series of, say, five regional debates before the convention. The candidates would debate live before the Democratic delegates, gathered in cities throughout the country (e.g., New York, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Phoenix and L.A.).

It'd all be televised. Then when the convention opened in Chicago on Aug. 19, delegates would have seen the field in action. There are a few problems with this, including determining who gets to debate. And you'd be trying to do something really complicated, in basically no time. "We can't organize a two-car parade at the moment," said one veteran of presidential campaigns who's knee-deep in possible Plan Bs.

What if Biden gets out too late for that, or the debates never come together? Then you could have an old-school frenzy in Chicago of candidates racing among delegation breakfasts to make their case.

A "mini-primary": Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), a Biden campaign co-chair, said in response to a question from Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that he'd support Harris if Biden dropped out, although he wants the ticket to continue to be Biden-Harris. "This party should not, in any way, do any thing to work around Ms. Harris," he said. "We should do everything we can to bolster her."

On CNN on Wednesday, Clyburn said you "can actually fashion the process that's already in place to make it a mini-primary, and I would support that. ... I think that Kamala Harris would acquit herself very well in that kind of a process. But then it would be fair to everybody." A Clyburn aide later clarified that he was just explaining the existing process.

Between the lines: Some party elders tell us the drama in all these scenarios would electrify an exhausted, disconsolate party, and engage a nation that otherwise would be tuned out for the summer.

Top Democrats tell us that after a possibly contentious public fight, they'd end with a ticket featuring two faces much younger than Trump (78), probably a man and a woman, getting massive free public attention — then a surge of donations.

Although Biden claims he's 100% in, some of his close friends still think he'll make what they consider the obvious decision and bow out. On Sunday, we outlined what Biden allies see as a graceful way for him to walk off the stage instead of being shoved: Step aside on his terms after triumphantly declaring his term a success. He'd get a prime-time convention role to pass the baton.

Tom Friedman, Biden's favorite New York Times columnist, cleverly celebrated George Washington twice in his second piece calling for Biden to step aside. This is what several Democrats will tell Biden if they're allowed near him: You can be a great man, a historic figure, if you do what the founding president did and put country over ambition. Then trust your party and then the American people to do the right thing.

The math is simple for a new ticket to win: Both parties agree the winner will be decided by a few hundred thousand voters in seven states — Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada.

Trump enjoys a small lead in most. So the new ticket would merely need to keep Biden's vote, plus pick up a few undecided voters or current Trump-leaning "double haters" — voters who dislike both, but will hold their nose and pick one. Do this, Democrats win.

Given the amount of convention and post-convention free media — the world would be transfixed by this spectacle — the new ticket would simply need enough money to flood those seven states for 10-ish weeks. That's a lifetime in politics.

The bottom line: Replacing Biden for the Democratic nomination in the coming weeks would be messy and wildly unpredictable — but highly doable.

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Tom Friedman, Biden's favorite New York Times columnist, cleverly celebrated George Washington twice in his second piece calling for Biden to step aside. This is what several Democrats will tell Biden if they're allowed near him: You can be a great man, a historic figure, if you do what the founding president did

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/04/kamala-harris-replace-biden-2024-election

How it works: We gamed out potential scenarios with some of the nation's most experienced Democratic operatives. Most feel strongly that for both political and practical reasons, Harris looks all but unbeatable.

If Biden "got there" on deciding to throw in the towel, top Democrats expect he would announce he was endorsing Harris — his running mate in 2020, and partner in governing for the past three years. White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said during her briefing Wednesday that one of the reasons Biden picked her back in 2020 "is because she is, indeed, the future of the party."

One reason to go that route is to avoid the mayhem of a wide-open convention in Chicago beginning Aug. 19. That would take Democrats' focus off Trump while they scrambled, knifed and preened.

Harris as nominee, or perhaps president, would become part of Biden's legacy, which matters a lot to him — a proud, stubborn man who's been in public life for 50+ years.

Then there's the practicality: If you're eyeing the 2028 nomination, you're thinking about the base. Do you really want to torpedo Harris' chance to become the first woman president of color? What are your real chances of defeating Harris and her formidable apparatus (White House, DNC, Biden-Harris campaign) when you're less well-known nationally than she is — then beating the Trump machine, with its huge head start, in the 75 days between the Democratic convention and Election Day?

Behind the scenes: Let's say Biden didn't endorse, or Democratic leaders insisted on a process. At the highest levels of the party, there's talk of a series of, say, five regional debates before the convention. The candidates would debate live before the Democratic delegates, gathered in cities throughout the country (e.g., New York, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Phoenix and L.A.).

It'd all be televised. Then when the convention opened in Chicago on Aug. 19, delegates would have seen the field in action. There are a few problems with this, including determining who gets to debate. And you'd be trying to do something really complicated, in basically no time. "We can't organize a two-car parade at the moment," said one veteran of presidential campaigns who's knee-deep in possible Plan Bs.

What if Biden gets out too late for that, or the debates never come together? Then you could have an old-school frenzy in Chicago of candidates racing among delegation breakfasts to make their case.

A "mini-primary": Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), a Biden campaign co-chair, said in response to a question from Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that he'd support Harris if Biden dropped out, although he wants the ticket to continue to be Biden-Harris. "This party should not, in any way, do any thing to work around Ms. Harris," he said. "We should do everything we can to bolster her."

On CNN on Wednesday, Clyburn said you "can actually fashion the process that's already in place to make it a mini-primary, and I would support that. ... I think that Kamala Harris would acquit herself very well in that kind of a process. But then it would be fair to everybody." A Clyburn aide later clarified that he was just explaining the existing process.

Between the lines: Some party elders tell us the drama in all these scenarios would electrify an exhausted, disconsolate party, and engage a nation that otherwise would be tuned out for the summer.

Top Democrats tell us that after a possibly contentious public fight, they'd end with a ticket featuring two faces much younger than Trump (78), probably a man and a woman, getting massive free public attention — then a surge of donations.

Although Biden claims he's 100% in, some of his close friends still think he'll make what they consider the obvious decision and bow out. On Sunday, we outlined what Biden allies see as a graceful way for him to walk off the stage instead of being shoved: Step aside on his terms after triumphantly declaring his term a success. He'd get a prime-time convention role to pass the baton.

Tom Friedman, Biden's favorite New York Times columnist, cleverly celebrated George Washington twice in his second piece calling for Biden to step aside. This is what several Democrats will tell Biden if they're allowed near him: You can be a great man, a historic figure, if you do what the founding president did and put country over ambition. Then trust your party and then the American people to do the right thing.

The math is simple for a new ticket to win: Both parties agree the winner will be decided by a few hundred thousand voters in seven states — Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada.

Trump enjoys a small lead in most. So the new ticket would merely need to keep Biden's vote, plus pick up a few undecided voters or current Trump-leaning "double haters" — voters who dislike both, but will hold their nose and pick one. Do this, Democrats win.

Given the amount of convention and post-convention free media — the world would be transfixed by this spectacle — the new ticket would simply need enough money to flood those seven states for 10-ish weeks. That's a lifetime in politics.

The bottom line: Replacing Biden for the Democratic nomination in the coming weeks would be messy and wildly unpredictable — but highly doable.

 

Please, please, please run Harris as POTUS. 

[Tiberius]

 

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/james-carville-advises-democratic-donors-to-freeze-contributions-to-candidates-backing-biden-if-we-dont-do-something-about-this/

 

Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville urged major Democratic donors who are panicked about President Joe Biden to cease contributing to the campaigns of candidates who back the president, according to a new report in Semafor on Wednesday.

In a conference call held on Tuesday, Carville told the dozens of donors that voters are itching for an alternative to Biden, who bombed in last week’s debate against former President Donald Trump. The performance raised serious questions among Democrats about Biden’s ability to win in November.

The vast majority of congressional Democrats who have publicly addressed the fiasco are still backing Biden.

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Please, please, please run Harris as POTUS. 

Newsome would be my pick but she would be better than Biden 

 

The racists and misogamist GOP would feel empowered for sure 

[BuffaninSarasota]

30 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/04/kamala-harris-replace-biden-2024-election

How it works: We gamed out potential scenarios with some of the nation's most experienced Democratic operatives. Most feel strongly that for both political and practical reasons, Harris looks all but unbeatable.

If Biden "got there" on deciding to throw in the towel, top Democrats expect he would announce he was endorsing Harris — his running mate in 2020, and partner in governing for the past three years. White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said during her briefing Wednesday that one of the reasons Biden picked her back in 2020 "is because she is, indeed, the future of the party."

One reason to go that route is to avoid the mayhem of a wide-open convention in Chicago beginning Aug. 19. That would take Democrats' focus off Trump while they scrambled, knifed and preened.

Harris as nominee, or perhaps president, would become part of Biden's legacy, which matters a lot to him — a proud, stubborn man who's been in public life for 50+ years.

Then there's the practicality: If you're eyeing the 2028 nomination, you're thinking about the base. Do you really want to torpedo Harris' chance to become the first woman president of color? What are your real chances of defeating Harris and her formidable apparatus (White House, DNC, Biden-Harris campaign) when you're less well-known nationally than she is — then beating the Trump machine, with its huge head start, in the 75 days between the Democratic convention and Election Day?

Behind the scenes: Let's say Biden didn't endorse, or Democratic leaders insisted on a process. At the highest levels of the party, there's talk of a series of, say, five regional debates before the convention. The candidates would debate live before the Democratic delegates, gathered in cities throughout the country (e.g., New York, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Phoenix and L.A.).

It'd all be televised. Then when the convention opened in Chicago on Aug. 19, delegates would have seen the field in action. There are a few problems with this, including determining who gets to debate. And you'd be trying to do something really complicated, in basically no time. "We can't organize a two-car parade at the moment," said one veteran of presidential campaigns who's knee-deep in possible Plan Bs.

What if Biden gets out too late for that, or the debates never come together? Then you could have an old-school frenzy in Chicago of candidates racing among delegation breakfasts to make their case.

A "mini-primary": Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), a Biden campaign co-chair, said in response to a question from Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that he'd support Harris if Biden dropped out, although he wants the ticket to continue to be Biden-Harris. "This party should not, in any way, do any thing to work around Ms. Harris," he said. "We should do everything we can to bolster her."

On CNN on Wednesday, Clyburn said you "can actually fashion the process that's already in place to make it a mini-primary, and I would support that. ... I think that Kamala Harris would acquit herself very well in that kind of a process. But then it would be fair to everybody." A Clyburn aide later clarified that he was just explaining the existing process.

Between the lines: Some party elders tell us the drama in all these scenarios would electrify an exhausted, disconsolate party, and engage a nation that otherwise would be tuned out for the summer.

Top Democrats tell us that after a possibly contentious public fight, they'd end with a ticket featuring two faces much younger than Trump (78), probably a man and a woman, getting massive free public attention — then a surge of donations.

Although Biden claims he's 100% in, some of his close friends still think he'll make what they consider the obvious decision and bow out. On Sunday, we outlined what Biden allies see as a graceful way for him to walk off the stage instead of being shoved: Step aside on his terms after triumphantly declaring his term a success. He'd get a prime-time convention role to pass the baton.

Tom Friedman, Biden's favorite New York Times columnist, cleverly celebrated George Washington twice in his second piece calling for Biden to step aside. This is what several Democrats will tell Biden if they're allowed near him: You can be a great man, a historic figure, if you do what the founding president did and put country over ambition. Then trust your party and then the American people to do the right thing.

The math is simple for a new ticket to win: Both parties agree the winner will be decided by a few hundred thousand voters in seven states — Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada.

Trump enjoys a small lead in most. So the new ticket would merely need to keep Biden's vote, plus pick up a few undecided voters or current Trump-leaning "double haters" — voters who dislike both, but will hold their nose and pick one. Do this, Democrats win.

Given the amount of convention and post-convention free media — the world would be transfixed by this spectacle — the new ticket would simply need enough money to flood those seven states for 10-ish weeks. That's a lifetime in politics.

The bottom line: Replacing Biden for the Democratic nomination in the coming weeks would be messy and wildly unpredictable — but highly doable.

So, in a few (short) other words, the Dems are screwed either way. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, BuffaninSarasota said:

So, in a few (short) other words, the Dems are screwed either way. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. 

Its an election that the EC has already stacked in favor of Trump, Dems will win the most votes, but all they can do is increase chances they win election by having a better candidate 

[K D]

The Lefties had their time to shine. Instead of coming out with common sense initiatives they pushed LGBTQ stuff, completely opened up the border and then gave illegals money, were mind numbingly easy on crime, called everyone racist, and funded 2 wars. So much for unifying this country.

 

"But the MAGAs! Wahhhh." Most of us aren't MAGA (whatever that is) and we just want common sense decency but the Dems pretty much took a "you're either completely for us or against us" stance and now they are seeing all over the world that people will choose to be against them if it comes down to that. They blew it. Time to re-correct back to the middle

[US Egg]

[BuffaninSarasota]

34 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Its an election that the EC has already stacked in favor of Trump LOL, Dems will win  HARVEST the most votes, but all they can do is increase chances they win election by having a better candidate 

 

FIFY

[Wacka]

If anyone is a suicide/crisis councilor,  it is a good jo artery for you the next 6 months-year. Big demand for your services talking dems off ledges.