B-Man Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Kamala Harris proves she’s no real friend to Israel By John Podhoretz Advice to Israel: Get it done in Gaza fast and get to it with Hezbollah soon, because it’s a 50-50 proposition that Kamala Harris is going to be president in January. And she is coming after you. In her first major statement as the presumptive Democratic nominee, Harris began by saying Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorism. Some commenters said she was therefore speaking supportive words. That is absurd on its face. It actually goes without saying that every nation, in every circumstance, has the right to defend itself against terrorism, since terrorism is the act of deploying political violence against non-combatants. That includes bad nations, and mean nations, even tyrannical nations. Saying Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorism is a sentence with no meaning, and it is only uttered by those who wish to follow its utterance with a “but.” And here was Harris’s but: “How it does so matters.” In other words, its right to defend itself should be conditioned on the results of its self-defense. And she made it clear that how Israel has done so matters to her — and she’s angry about it. https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/opinion/kamala-harris-proves-shes-no-real-friend-to-israel/
Tommy Callahan Posted July 27 Posted July 27 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What did Cheney say about deficits? Debt to gdp over 120 isn't just unsustainable, but cabalistic as the debt payments become more than social services
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Her view of Israel and what they should be doing is as absurd as her views on tax. The woman is a proven failure. Has accomplished nothing and the faster we no longer have to listen to her nonsense, as ill delivered as it is, the better. Significance of the passage of time. Little yellow school buses. Unencumbered by what has been. Tax policy. Immigration policy/performance. Simply a left wing nut. 1 3
L Ron Burgundy Posted July 27 Posted July 27 11 hours ago, Doc said: GovTrack.us rated her the most liberal Senator in 2019. Then they tried to backtrack. Does that count? And unlike Biden, who once was a moderate, claims by Harris that she's a moderate are going to be met with laughter. Lol. No, its neaningless. What policy? Name 1 thing.
Unforgiven Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Anyone notice how quick the dems acted when they realized the plot on trump failed. Then put on a show ripping up and ***** canning their dei secret service patsy.
Doc Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Lol. No, its neaningless. What policy? Name 1 thing. How about open borders? Decriminalizing illegally entering? Giving them Medicare? Supporting sanctuary cities? Defunding the police? Killing the fossil fuel industry? Restricting red meat consumption? Porn for elementary school kids? Transitioning kids without parents' approval? And that's just off the top of my head. Then again, maybe we just have different definitions of what "liberal" means... Edited July 27 by Doc 2 1
Starr-Bills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 6 hours ago, sherpa said: Understand and address the real problem, and it isn't tax rates. By the way. Consider the VP's tax thoughts. Typical San Francisco Democrat idiocy. Simply insane. It is taxes. Taxes on the wealthy and profitable mega corporations. Was 90% was 60% was 38% is now 21% and loopholes and exceptions take it lower. Note at those higher rates there were still immensely profitable companies and wealthy individuals. You don’t need to change the tax rates for the middle and lower classes (below $400,000 for example) to make a significant impact on the deficit. Just saying spending is out of control is not even an argument.
Pokebball Posted July 27 Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: It is taxes. Taxes on the wealthy and profitable mega corporations. Was 90% was 60% was 38% is now 21% and loopholes and exceptions take it lower. Note at those higher rates there were still immensely profitable companies and wealthy individuals. You don’t need to change the tax rates for the middle and lower classes (below $400,000 for example) to make a significant impact on the deficit. Just saying spending is out of control is not even an argument. Corporate tax rates are most significantly influenced by global corporate rates anymore. Times have changed
Starr-Bills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 8 hours ago, Lost said: Are you f'n insane? Let me know when you have an actual argument. Of note if it wasn’t clear the $1.79 is in economic activity for every $1 allocated to the program not tax revenue raised. Point being investing in helping people eat, helps more than just those people. The stores, the employees and employers all use and recirculate the money in the economy. 2 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Corporate tax rates are most significantly influenced by global corporate rates anymore. Times have changed Not only tax rates but the security and stability of the country and the ability to reach the intended market.
Starr-Bills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 6 hours ago, sherpa said: Pure crazy. Check revenue numbers against spending totals. The issue is not now, and has never been tax revenue. Just servicing the debt now exceeds defense spending, and it isn't getting better. We have been fortunate that the dollar strength has bolstered our ability to sell debt, That isn't a problem until it is a problem, and that massive need effects interest rates. My point on DEI considerations re the FAA under Buttigieg is not speculation or opinion. It is foolishly managed reality. They failed, and blaming their failure on lack of resources is a senseless deflection. They failed because they failed, and it is every bit on them as much as Boeing. I mean at least you are making an argument. Could do without the insults. You are not a child and neither am I. I was referencing economic activity generated by each dollar spent on the economy. Food assistance is one of the most effective uses of tax dollars and their add on effect to the economy. the DEI stuff is just bunk it’s ‘24s CRT or affirmative action. If you really want to talk about DEI hires look no further than one Clarance Thomas. maybe if we had a real budget process I stand of grandstanding obstruction maybe if we taxed at rates that were effective then the FAA (or a now to be hired third party) could provide the oversight that Boeing obviously won’t provide themselves. How any of that is related to ‘Dei’ is for your imagination.
Starr-Bills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 6 hours ago, Lost said: From your link "For struggling families and communities, SNAP is making a huge difference in their economic well-being and health. For example, SNAP is good for local economies – each dollar in federally funded SNAP benefits generates $1.79 in economic activity." - is not the same as returning $1.79 in revenue to the government. Last public report for SNAP benefits shows over 50 million individuals receiving somewhere around $400/month in 2021. That's 240 billion dollars plus another 10 billion in administrative overhead. Now, I'd like you to explain to me how that generated 447 Billion in tax revenue. The biggest thing you're overlooking here as well is the effect of money printing on inflation. Pumping endless money into the economy may give the illusion of prosperity and growth but it is merely a mirage. Inflation up over 20% since 2020 outpacing wage growth, housing affordability is at near all time lows. Nearly 20% or 1 trillion dollars of all tax revenue collected is going to pay interest towards our national debt. Our government is absolutely bloated. 1. If I gave the impression it was $1.79 in tax revenue apologies. I meant and assumed it was clear that meant economic activity which makes it a great way to spend tax dollars as it has a more than 1 to 1 effect. It generated 447 billion in economic activity on an investment of 250 billion (and not lifted millions out of poverty and food insecurity). This seems like an excellent investment of tax dollars for the benefit of our fellow Americans. 2. I also want to complement you on actually reading the article, citing sources and provide into an argument, so much better than all the name calling talking points being thrown around. 3.i believe the rest of your charts were proving wrong the misunderstanding. But they were appreciated. 4. Inflation. Well most of that was from corporations taking extra profits in 2022-23 to bounce back from the costs of 2020-21. Which is odd since most of them received large amounts of cash to keep employees paid. Some was of course from the huge injections of cash by the federal government. But the alternative was creating the Great Depression 2.0. Letting companies fail, millions out of work etc. that said both the ARP and Infrastructure bills added less than half the previous administration’s pile on of the debt and the us economy got something for it (record job and wage growth). You will also note companies reducing prices or increasing the size of goods to the 2020-21 levels. Not all but many. Also of note the do nothing congress refused to pass a bill limiting price inflation by companies. TL:dr - SNAP is one of the programs we should keep. 4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: The cults new chant "equity". What is so wrong with fairness. Ensuring people have equal and fair opportunity? I mean this is a bills board, equity is Tom Brady not getting the call he got during the drought. Call the game fairly and the bills win more than three games against him. 1 1
Tiberius Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Doc said: How about open borders? Decriminalizing illegally entering? Giving them Medicare? Supporting sanctuary cities? Defunding the police? Killing the fossil fuel industry? Restricting red meat consumption? Porn for elementary school kids? Transitioning kids without parents' approval? And that's just off the top of my head. Then again, maybe we just have different definitions of what "liberal" means... How about Trump killing the bi-partisan deal? How about Trump saying this will be the last election? You want a dictator? 1
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: I mean at least you are making an argument. Could do without the insults. You are not a child and neither am I. I was referencing economic activity generated by each dollar spent on the economy. Food assistance is one of the most effective uses of tax dollars and their add on effect to the economy. the DEI stuff is just bunk it’s ‘24s CRT or affirmative action. If you really want to talk about DEI hires look no further than one Clarance Thomas. maybe if we had a real budget process I stand of grandstanding obstruction maybe if we taxed at rates that were effective then the FAA (or a now to be hired third party) could provide the oversight that Boeing obviously won’t provide themselves. How any of that is related to ‘Dei’ is for your imagination. The problem with the FAA isn't funding. It is performance when funding is used to advance stupid DEI crap quota hiring, and it isn't my "imagination." It is reality. The staffing numbers were not cut after 2020, and the demand has not significantly increased. Stupid policy from this Trans Sec as part of this administration. They have plenty of people to effectively do their job. They just don't do it because they have decided to focus energy on other things. You were not focusing on economic activity. You asserted that tax revenue is the issue. I asserted that it is not, instead that spending on senseless political crap is, and the FAA is a poster for this. Edited July 27 by sherpa 1
Doc Posted July 27 Posted July 27 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How about Trump killing the bi-partisan deal? How about Trump saying this will be the last election? You want a dictator? The bi-paritsan deal that was proposed after 10M illegals already came in and wouldn't have done much? Who cares. It is his last election. 1
Starr-Bills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 11 minutes ago, sherpa said: The problem with the FAA isn't funding. It is performance when funding is used to advance stupid DEI crap quota hiring, and it isn't my "imagination." It is reality. The staffing numbers were not cut after 2020, and the demand has not significantly increased. Stupid policy from this Trans Sec as part of this administration. They have plenty of people to effectively do their job. They just don't do it because they have decided to focus energy on other things. You were not focusing on economic activity. You asserted that tax revenue is the issue. I asserted that it is not, instead that spending on senseless political crap is, and the FAA is a poster for this. re: FAA. Guess we have to take your word for it. Were you passed over for a promotion? revenue is an issue. Cuts, sequestration have been tried. X$ needs to be spent to perform the duties so revenues need to go up in order to fix the ‘deficit’. note: balanced budgets and deficit reduction did not occurs under Regan, bush 1 &2 and the felon. Note 2: they all claimed cutting taxes would solve the issue. Oh wait no they made no attempt to solve it and instead added to the next potus list. SNAP was meant as an example of how use of tax dollars can be a plus benefit. because as part of my larger point raising revenue is the only thing what that is used for, and then provided SNAP as an example. As I have said apologies for any confusion, seriously who’s mind on this site is going to change, I’m on here for the conversation, maybe tone it down a bit.
Tiberius Posted July 27 Posted July 27 40 minutes ago, Doc said: The bi-paritsan deal that was proposed after 10M illegals already came in and wouldn't have done much? Who cares. It is his last election. He said no more voting, and sure, if there are no more elections, it will be his last, duh 1
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starr-Bills said: re: FAA. Guess we have to take your word for it. Were you passed over for a promotion? note: balanced budgets and deficit reduction did not occurs under Regan, bush 1 &2 and the felon. Note 2: they all claimed cutting taxes would solve the issue. Oh wait no they made no attempt to solve it and instead added to the next potus list. Just stupid. I am very familiar with the FAA and its performance as a 727/757/767 and 777 captain and check airman for a major airline. They don't pay enough to get me to work for them, though I'm very aware of their performance for decades. Regarding deficits, remember Bush 1 and his "no new taxes quote?" He was promised that any new taxes would be matched by spending cuts. They lied. That was the last straw that moved me away from the Democratic party. Nothing matters to them except votes. It extends to Democratic Congress, who attempted to revoke responsibility for overwhelmingly approving Iraq war 2, by claiming that the Bush Admin misled them, and specifically Pelosi who trashed the CIA after denying she knew about advanced interrogation techniques. She lied. At some point, any rational human gets tired of this horseshit. Harris is a living, breathing potential disaster. Simply a goof. Edited July 27 by sherpa 2
L Ron Burgundy Posted July 27 Posted July 27 4 hours ago, Doc said: How about open borders? Decriminalizing illegally entering? Giving them Medicare? Supporting sanctuary cities? Defunding the police? Killing the fossil fuel industry? Restricting red meat consumption? Porn for elementary school kids? Transitioning kids without parents' approval? And that's just off the top of my head. Then again, maybe we just have different definitions of what "liberal" means... I dont think she's advocated for many of these things. Open borders? Did a quick check, I don't see her advocating for that. Defunding police. She mentioned it once, seems she backtracked on it. I'm betting most of your post is Bs. I'll have to check though. I honestly know little about her.
L Ron Burgundy Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, sherpa said: Just stupid. I am very familiar with the FAA and its performance as a 727/757/767 and 777 captain and check airman for a major airline. They don't pay enough to get me to work for them, though I'm very aware of their performance for decades. Regarding deficits, remember Bush 1 and his "no new taxes quote?" He was promised that any new taxes would be matched by spending cuts. They lied. That was the last straw that moved me away from the Democratic party. Nothing matters to them except votes. It extends to Democratic Congress, who attempted to revoke responsibility for overwhelmingly approving Iraq war 2, by claiming that the Bush Admin misled them, and specifically Pelosi who trashed the CIA after denying she knew about advanced interrogation techniques. She lied. At some point, any rational human gets tired of this horseshit. Harris is a living, breathing potential disaster. Simply a goof. I don't think many will argue that our choices this election remain poor. Likely the worst in our country's history. Unfortunately once side is putting up a blatant criminal. Harris has no qualifications? Neither does the other guy. His presidency was ranked worst in our country's history by people who study this type of thing. Only one side has a guy saying vote this last time, you won't have to vote again. I'm sure they'll claim it's in jest. I don't care. Harris is unintelligent? Can she tie her shoes? Then she's got a leg up on the competition. That's where we're at. It's sad. We should be electing our best and brightest. https://www.npr.org/2024/07/27/nx-s1-5054272/trump-christian-wont-vote-anymore-speech Edited July 28 by L Ron Burgundy 1
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