mikemac2001 Posted Friday at 10:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:51 PM People are crazy dude was still recovering last year it was a major injury that typically takes a year+ give the dude a chance yes the contract sucks but he did rework it to help out. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted Friday at 10:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:51 PM Looks to me like he’s still gingerly on those legs on cuts. I’ll believe the von hype this season when I see him do more than walk out of the tunnel this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted Friday at 10:57 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:57 PM I think his floor is 6 sacks and his ceiling is 11. I'm thinking around 7-8 this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted Friday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:59 PM 7 minutes ago, mrags said: Looks to me like he’s still gingerly on those legs on cuts. I’ll believe the von hype this season when I see him do more than walk out of the tunnel this season. Von texted me and said you’re a kitty. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted Friday at 11:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:36 PM (edited) 37 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Von texted me and said you’re a kitty. But I don’t have black rubber gloves stuffed into every nook and cranny in a rusted out Toyota Edited Friday at 11:37 PM by mrags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted Friday at 11:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:51 PM “Don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby” - Buddy Nix 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted Saturday at 12:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:26 AM 1 hour ago, mrags said: Looks to me like he’s still gingerly on those legs on cuts. I’ll believe the von hype this season when I see him do more than walk out of the tunnel this season. Even with Von's bum knee, he's faster than Keon Coleman 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted Saturday at 03:12 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:12 AM 2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Even with Von's bum knee, he's faster than Keon Coleman 🙂 Yeah but he’s got an extra hitch in his step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted Saturday at 03:28 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:28 AM (edited) Enough talk. Let's see him put up. Let the play do the talking. No one wants to hear it. Besides, he and AJE share the position, right, ... let the youngster play. Edited Saturday at 03:31 AM by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted Saturday at 03:38 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:38 AM (edited) 10 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Enough talk. Let's see him put up. Let the play do the talking. No one wants to hear it. Besides, he and AJE share the position, right, ... let the youngster play. Athletes do interviews. and AJ will play plenty- von lines up on both sides- they can play at the same time Edited Saturday at 03:40 AM by NewEra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted Saturday at 03:43 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:43 AM (edited) 8 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: "The talkin" as you say, is just each players confidence/bravado...you have to be able to let that go. What matters is the output on the field. Both Von and Tre needed more time than 1 year to get back on track. Just because Von was confident, and Tre by all accounts didn't talk because he really took the injury hard mentally/almost depression at first, doesn't matter either way. Everyone handles adversity differently, from a mental and physical stand point. Von chose to be optimistic and his "talkin" is part of that inner drive/confidence. It's real, not fake attitude, and just his way of going about his business and what he believed he could do to help his team LY. Von is guilty of getting certain fans' hopes up for LY. You can choose to believe every word Von, Beane, Coach, Josh, anyone on this team says, but the reality is these guys have certain ways of dealing with media based on their personalities, and everyone should use some common sense as well. Josh saying he was fine after his elbow injury in 2022 was an example of his true 'tough' attitude/grit, he isn't going to admit he's severely injured. And that's just another thing that makes Josh a great teammate and player in my eyes...in this day and age where some would rather spew excuses. All that matters is what version of Von shows up this year. 2022/close to 2022 Von OR a washed up player who got their end of career derailed by a bad injury. My money is on the former, and we will get a solid preview in about a month. I don't need to let a thing go.... You made a point that Von didn't deserve the hate he got for LY. I get your point about the confidence/bravado just being part of who Von is. But at the same time, when a guy goes public with it, he's got to know that fans will keep receipts if his mouth makes a promise that his body can't keep. I don't blame Von for tallking, but my point is he drew the reaction with his own actions (getting out there and talking) Edited Saturday at 03:45 AM by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted Saturday at 04:02 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:02 AM 23 minutes ago, NewEra said: AJ will play plenty- von lines up on both sides- they can play at the same time Roger We also have Rousseau over there, time for Rousseau and AJE to step up into full-time starting roles. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted Saturday at 04:45 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:45 AM He’s done. This will be the last year for him with any substantial pay in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted Saturday at 06:04 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:04 AM 14 hours ago, DapperCam said: Miller is so full of hot air, I’ll believe it when I see it. Besides last year coming off a major injury, when has he not backed it up? When he was like 8? Dudes worst stretches of pro career, are above average, and we're talking 1 season twice.... coming off injury. So 11 good years, 2 bad, in 13years. Pro. Nasty college. Probably absolutely filthy in HS. Clown take. If you don't like him, just say that lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted Saturday at 06:19 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:19 AM 12 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: when has he not backed it up? He's probably talking about when he said he'll be back in the 2022 season (and wasn't). Or maybe last offseason when he said he'll be ready to go at the start of the season (and wasn't, wound up on PUP). He's a great player but you shouldn't believe a thing that comes out of his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted Saturday at 06:21 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:21 AM 15 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Besides last year coming off a major injury, when has he not backed it up? When he was like 8? Dudes worst stretches of pro career, are above average, and we're talking 1 season twice.... coming off injury. So 11 good years, 2 bad, in 13years. Pro. Nasty college. Probably absolutely filthy in HS. Clown take. If you don't like him, just say that lol It’s not just about his performance. He’s just the kind of guy that talks nonstop. About players coming here, team success, his personal success, etc. Hence, he’s full of hot air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted Saturday at 07:01 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:01 AM 15 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Hate to be the bearer of bad news Von, but forcing yourself back way too early actively hurt your teammates. We would've been better off stashing him on IR and using the roster spot on someone else. I agree. My uneducated guess is Von and the staff may have made the mistake of believing past performance equals future results. He tore his ACL in December of 2013 and started the 2014 season nine months later and had 14 sacks that year (2nd team All Pro). This tear seemed to be more serious though and all the positive thinking in the world doesn't mean your body doesn't have ten more years of wear and tear on it. Even a 75% Von Miller is better than an AJ Epenesa though so let's hope he can at least be much better than last year to go along with Rousseau on obvious passing downs. I have my doubts but it would be a pleasant surprise. 41 minutes ago, DapperCam said: It’s not just about his performance. He’s just the kind of guy that talks nonstop. About players coming here, team success, his personal success, etc. Hence, he’s full of hot air. I prefer that to cryptic twitter tweets. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted Saturday at 07:52 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:52 AM Sometimes life be lifen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted Saturday at 08:04 AM Share Posted Saturday at 08:04 AM I’m more concerned about his domestic violence than his knee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted Saturday at 08:23 AM Share Posted Saturday at 08:23 AM Just take some roids dude and go out there. Nothing left to lose at this point 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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