DJB Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM According to these trustworthy guys 3 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted Thursday at 08:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:10 PM I'd put McDermott after Tomlin. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted Thursday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:15 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, stuvian said: I'd put McDermott after Tomlin. They did? edit: oh, you meant right after Tomlin on this list? like #6. 7 minutes ago, DJB said: According to these trustworthy guys I'd put him ahead of Ryans and Stefanski, although Ryans could leap frog him this year. I'm 50/50 on McD. He's done well to turn the team around, but the sustained success has more to do with Josh than McD. And when the team needs to rely on a coaching move instead of a QB move, we usually drop the ball. McD is the type of coach who can take a 4-12 team to the wild card, but is also the coach who would take a 14-2 team to the wild card. Agreed he belongs on the list. But in order to take us all the way he needs to take a step forward with situational football, gameday management, team management (the FULL team, not just Defense), and having the team fired up and focused. Edited Thursday at 08:16 PM by DrDawkinstein 6 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted Thursday at 08:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:24 PM That’s great. He barely made the top 3rd of the leagues coaches. He only needed the 2nd best player in football to do it. 7 5 2 1 1 3 6 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted Thursday at 08:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:34 PM 10 minutes ago, mrags said: That’s great. He barely made the top 3rd of the leagues coaches. He only needed the 2nd best player in football to do it. He made this thread for you and you took the bait 5 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM 19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: the sustained success has more to do with Josh than McD Everybody likes to say that, but I think you're doing McD a disservice. McD made the change last season that got them out of their funk. McD held them together in the Hamlin year...he's the constant rock. 4 1 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM Ok, what have Dan Campbell, Matt Lafleur, DeMeco Ryans, and Kevin Stefanski accomplished to be ranked ahead of McDermott? 8 1 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted Thursday at 08:37 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:37 PM 11 minutes ago, mrags said: That’s great. He barely made the top 3rd of the leagues coaches. He only needed the 2nd best player in football to do it. Top 10 returning head coaches. As there are only 25 returning head coaches McD did not in fact make the top 3rd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted Thursday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:39 PM 14 minutes ago, mrags said: That’s great. He barely made the top 3rd of the leagues coaches. He only needed the 2nd best player in football to do it. According to some guy named Gordon…… 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted Thursday at 08:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:43 PM but but but...PFF!! anyway, Tomlin can lose every playoff game for the rest of his life and he'll still be eating free lunch off of Big Ben's last SB win. Steelers will never fire him so they are going nowhere Harbaugh is 3-6 in the playoffs since Ravens won a SB 11 years ago. He and Jackson are never winning one. They will be regular season warriors. McVay won the SB with a dream team. 15-19 since with an aging Stafford, not the genius he was just 3 years ago... Ryans gets top 10 after 1 season? Stafanski has had one decent season in 3. Brief Flacco magic makes him top 10? lol 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Buffalo Posted Thursday at 08:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:43 PM There are good things you could say about McDermott. There are bad things you could say, especially about his performance in the last four years of playoff losses. Both the good and bad have been extensively discussed here. At this point, throwing the PFF rating into the discussion reveals more about the metric itself, than it does about McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted Thursday at 08:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:45 PM (edited) The only players/coach to really get any love is Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, and Daboll. No one else is highly thought of around the league. Which is crazy because the Bills statistically have the best defense in the NFL since 2019. Edited Thursday at 08:46 PM by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted Thursday at 08:48 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:48 PM 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The only players/coach to really get any love is Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs. No one else is highly thought of around the league. Which is crazy because the Bills statistically have the best defense in the NFL since 2019. Not when they have faced good offenses and good QB's. Padded their stats against bad/mediocre teams with bad/mediocre QB's. Except for the playoff game against the Ravens the Bills defense in the playoffs gets killed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted Thursday at 08:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:52 PM Is that the goal? Top 10 coach with a top 10 team. No super bowl appearances with the best all around QB in the league that plays like an alien. If he missed this list he should have been fired yesterday. It is expected he is a top 10, that is pretty meaningless. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted Thursday at 08:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:54 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gregg said: Not when they have faced good offenses and good QB's. Padded their stats against bad/mediocre teams with bad/mediocre QB's. Except for the playoff game against the Ravens the Bills defense in the playoffs gets killed. They haven’t come up big in the playoffs other than the Ravens game. Sure. They are the best since 2019. I understand why you’re diminishing that but it’s a pretty long stretch, 5 years. Edited Thursday at 08:54 PM by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted Thursday at 08:58 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:58 PM 33 minutes ago, mrags said: That’s great. He barely made the top 3rd of the leagues coaches. He only needed the 2nd best player in football to do it. I guess I’ll just have to live with the fact that I’m a sucker for taking the bait. But at least I’m not the sucker that actually thinks this loser is a good coach. 2 3 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted Thursday at 09:02 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:02 PM 3 minutes ago, mrags said: I guess I’ll just have to live with the fact that I’m a sucker for taking the bait. But at least I’m not the sucker that actually thinks this loser is a good coach. Hahahaha,,, you just replied to yourself 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted Thursday at 09:03 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:03 PM 27 minutes ago, MJS said: Ok, what have Dan Campbell, Matt Lafleur, DeMeco Ryans, and Kevin Stefanski accomplished to be ranked ahead of McDermott? LaFluer is easy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted Thursday at 09:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:07 PM 26 minutes ago, eball said: Everybody likes to say that, but I think you're doing McD a disservice. McD made the change last season that got them out of their funk. McD held them together in the Hamlin year...he's the constant rock. McD is partially responsible for the change that put them in a funk to begin with, and letting it go on too long. And I dont think he did that good of a job in 2022, especially after the Hamlin game. We slept-walked through the Pats game and the Dolphins playoff game, only winning because they were very familiar and lesser talented Division rivals, and then had a 100% team collapse against the Bengals where no one showed up ready or willing to play. JMO but thats how I see it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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