"You like movies about gladiators?"

[US Egg]

What did Spartacus say when the lion ate his wife?

 

He was gladiator.

[Rocky Landing]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I didn't what to just call it. "Josh does another Pepsi ad." 

 

I made the connection to the Airplane quote because of what the commercial will be about 

I've also seen a grown man naked.

[LeGOATski]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Maybe I'm just an old fart.  Or maybe I just love books more.  But I'm personally not parroting anyone when I complain about Hollywood and it's lack of creativity.  

 

I don't like super hero movies.  My family drags me into them and I fall asleep from boredom.  From my vantage point, there's nothing novel, creative, or interesting about them.  I wish Hollywood stopped spending hundreds of millions on silly superhero flicks and used that money instead on original, intelligent, dramatic stories.  

 

I rarely like franchises of any kind (though there are exceptions).  Once you've seen the premise, it's time to move onto a new story with a new premise.  How many times do you want to watch The Bourne Identity?  Personally, I was good with once.  

 

I can't remember the last movie experience I truly enjoyed.  I suppose it was the Lord of the Rings trilogy.  Very rarely do I enjoy a movie more than the book(s) it was based on but I thought Jackson did a masterful job bringing Tolkien's imagination to the big screen.  

 

Btw, I loved Dune when I was a teen - read it 6 times.  Decades of life and thousands of books later, that's still my record.  Yet I was not enchanted with the recent Dune movie, sorry - though it was much better than the awful Lynch attempt.

 

I'm somewhat happy there's going to be a Gladiator 2 movie just because I want to see more historical dramas.  But why not an original story instead of a sequel to a movie where the main character dies?  Because tickets are sold with name recognition - "Gladiator"... Ridley Scott...  more big names to come. 

 

Original stories are risky and that's why Hollywood hardly makes them anymore.  Can you imagine someone trying to get funding for a hokey script about a barroom romance with an unhappy ending based on failed stage play.  Casablanca wouldn't get made today.  

 

I want Hollywood to make a movie about the Bills Super Bowl season.  But I guess we have to win one first. 

 

 

I stopped at super hero movies. It's your choice what movies you watch. Just come out from under that rock.

 

I also love books, though.

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Okay fine. Hollywood makes more remakes because they appeal to the lowest common denominator of person who will still shell out $20 to oh and ah at a generic superhero movie or “I’ve heard of that” in the year 2024.

 

It’s the fans’ fault for being horrific tasteless slobs and Hollywood recognizes that they can just push remake garbage over and over and over and make money instead of being creative.

False. They do both: completely sell out and also are super creative.

[26TrapDraw]

21 hours ago, PonyBoy said:

Or would we rather a commercial about grown men naked? 🤯 

Lol!!

Well that begs the question:

ya ever hang around the gymnasium?

 

[CoffeeDrip]

I’m just sad that Ralphie isn’t around to enjoy the sequel…

Edited June 24 by CoffeeDrip

[hondo in seattle]

13 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

I stopped at super hero movies. It's your choice what movies you watch. Just come out from under that rock.

 

I also love books, though.

False. They do both: completely sell out and also are super creative.

 

I'm happy with my books under my rock.  

 

I haven't watched Dune 2 yet so maybe that'll restore my faith in Hollywood.  

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I'm happy with my books under my rock.  

 

I haven't watched Dune 2 yet so maybe that'll restore my faith in Hollywood.  

Doubt it if you didn't like Dune 1

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

On 6/23/2024 at 11:33 AM, PonyBoy said:

Or would we rather a commercial about grown men naked? 🤯 

Lol!!

I do not need one about being in a Turkish prison thank you very much

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

20 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Maybe I'm just an old fart.  Or maybe I just love books more.  But I'm personally not parroting anyone when I complain about Hollywood and it's lack of creativity.  

 

I don't like super hero movies.  My family drags me into them and I fall asleep from boredom.  From my vantage point, there's nothing novel, creative, or interesting about them.  I wish Hollywood stopped spending hundreds of millions on silly superhero flicks and used that money instead on original, intelligent, dramatic stories.  

 

I rarely like franchises of any kind (though there are exceptions).  Once you've seen the premise, it's time to move onto a new story with a new premise.  How many times do you want to watch The Bourne Identity?  Personally, I was good with once.  

 

I can't remember the last movie experience I truly enjoyed.  I suppose it was the Lord of the Rings trilogy.  Very rarely do I enjoy a movie more than the book(s) it was based on but I thought Jackson did a masterful job bringing Tolkien's imagination to the big screen.  

 

Btw, I loved Dune when I was a teen - read it 6 times.  Decades of life and thousands of books later, that's still my record.  Yet I was not enchanted with the recent Dune movie, sorry - though it was much better than the awful Lynch attempt.

 

I'm somewhat happy there's going to be a Gladiator 2 movie just because I want to see more historical dramas.  But why not an original story instead of a sequel to a movie where the main character dies?  Because tickets are sold with name recognition - "Gladiator"... Ridley Scott...  more big names to come. 

 

Original stories are risky and that's why Hollywood hardly makes them anymore.  Can you imagine someone trying to get funding for a hokey script about a barroom romance with an unhappy ending based on failed stage play.  Casablanca wouldn't get made today.  

 

I want Hollywood to make a movie about the Bills Super Bowl season.  But I guess we have to win one first. 

 

 

You definitely need to go looking. Funnily enough, I actually have begun to enjoy Horror more as a genre because it can be done well cheaply and even better than big budget projects because creative directors know that the fears we ourselves project are more intimate than what they show. There's an indie movie called Brooklyn 45 where the tension isn't the ghost story as much as a group of recently returned soldiers returning to civilian life and all their trauma, secrets and paranoia that they needed to hold onto spilling out as they return home.

 

But as for the last mainline, actually sitting in a theater watching a movie that surprised me, I think it was "Knives Out". It was a particular delight for me because:

 

A) It immediately is a love letter of all the tropes of the whodunnit: the perfect murder, the unreliable narrator, the dud weapon that looks like the real thing and immediately pokes fun at them 

B) Becomes a reconstruction in the last turn with an entirely different set of clues that you don't see because you're too busy looking at the ones the film has been poking fun at.

Edited June 24 by WhitewalkerInPhilly

[CoudyBills]

22 hours ago, FireChans said:

Because remakes, sequels, and reboots get massive budgets and advertising dollars and are an ever increasing percentage of Hollywood profits?

 

My favorite is when people act like this is a “weird complaint” when it’s just a fact lol.

 

In 1993, 2 of the top 20 highest grossing films were a remake, reboot, prequel, sequel or spin-off.

In 2013, it was 14.

 

in 2018, it was 16.

 

Are those numbers legit?  It certainly feels right.

[ChevyVanMiller]

On 6/23/2024 at 12:45 PM, FireChans said:

All this tells me is that Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt. Gladiator 2?

It's only to kill time while they work on the script for Sharknado 7.

[Rampant Buffalo]

On 6/23/2024 at 4:30 PM, LeGOATski said:

That simply means us, the consumers, are increasingly willing to pay for remakes.

 

Explain how that means there's a lack of creativity.

 

Gladly.

 

Scenario 1. Of the last ten original theme movies a man has watched, he's really enjoyed nine of them. He's watched previews for upcoming original theme movies. A number of those previews look very promising.

 

Scenario 2. Of the original theme movies a man has watched recently, the vast majority have been letdowns. The previews for upcoming original theme movies don't leave him feeling hopeful.

 

Let's say that a man is experiencing scenario 2. It's summer, he's just spent the day outside. Now he's in the mood to be in a movie theater, watching a big screen and eating popcorn. He liked the older versions of Dune. A new version has just come out, which seems promising. He knows this isn't going to be his most memorable movie ever. But at least he's getting something. At least it's not a dud. So he chooses that, because none of the original theme movies available seem to offer a huge upside.

[msw2112]

23 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Maybe I'm just an old fart.  Or maybe I just love books more.  But I'm personally not parroting anyone when I complain about Hollywood and it's lack of creativity.  

 

I don't like super hero movies.  My family drags me into them and I fall asleep from boredom.  From my vantage point, there's nothing novel, creative, or interesting about them.  I wish Hollywood stopped spending hundreds of millions on silly superhero flicks and used that money instead on original, intelligent, dramatic stories.  

 

I rarely like franchises of any kind (though there are exceptions).  Once you've seen the premise, it's time to move onto a new story with a new premise.  How many times do you want to watch The Bourne Identity?  Personally, I was good with once.  

 

I can't remember the last movie experience I truly enjoyed.  I suppose it was the Lord of the Rings trilogy.  Very rarely do I enjoy a movie more than the book(s) it was based on but I thought Jackson did a masterful job bringing Tolkien's imagination to the big screen.  

 

Btw, I loved Dune when I was a teen - read it 6 times.  Decades of life and thousands of books later, that's still my record.  Yet I was not enchanted with the recent Dune movie, sorry - though it was much better than the awful Lynch attempt.

 

I'm somewhat happy there's going to be a Gladiator 2 movie just because I want to see more historical dramas.  But why not an original story instead of a sequel to a movie where the main character dies?  Because tickets are sold with name recognition - "Gladiator"... Ridley Scott...  more big names to come. 

 

Original stories are risky and that's why Hollywood hardly makes them anymore.  Can you imagine someone trying to get funding for a hokey script about a barroom romance with an unhappy ending based on failed stage play.  Casablanca wouldn't get made today.  

 

I want Hollywood to make a movie about the Bills Super Bowl season.  But I guess we have to win one first. 

 

 

 

I must be an old fart too, but I agree with pretty much everything you said here.  I'm not a big fan of superhero or comic book movies, and am not big into "franchise" films.  I'm much more interested in a new story about "real" people that deal with realistic drama that people face in their lives than about a fictional character that not only never existed, but never could.  I can stretch for characters like John McClain in DieHard (the first one!) or the Jason Bourne types, as they're at least "real" people with extreme human talents.  But that's me.  My wife has become a big Dune fan.  She read the book and bought the series of books.  I've tried getting into it because the new release is supposed to be one of the best films of the year, so I'd like to establish a "base" before watching the 2024 movie,  but I'm struggling to get through the older ones first.  I watched the one from the 1980s and it was pretty bad and I fell asleep during the one from 2021.  Maybe I was just tired and I will try again.  I'm told that the books are extremely complex.

 

And back to the Buffalo Bills connection, I could see Josh Allen doing some Hollywood work after he retires.  He's charismatic, relatable and funny.  Maybe a better looking Peyton Manning?  

[PonyBoy]

9 hours ago, 26TrapDraw said:

Well that begs the question:

ya ever hang around the gymnasium?

 

 

No, not anymore. When I climbed the rope in gym class it made me feel kind of funny. 

Different movie, but funny line too. 

[Your Brown Eye]

[LeGOATski]

5 hours ago, Rampant Buffalo said:

 

Gladly.

 

Scenario 1. Of the last ten original theme movies a man has watched, he's really enjoyed nine of them. He's watched previews for upcoming original theme movies. A number of those previews look very promising.

 

Scenario 2. Of the original theme movies a man has watched recently, the vast majority have been letdowns. The previews for upcoming original theme movies don't leave him feeling hopeful.

 

Let's say that a man is experiencing scenario 2. It's summer, he's just spent the day outside. Now he's in the mood to be in a movie theater, watching a big screen and eating popcorn. He liked the older versions of Dune. A new version has just come out, which seems promising. He knows this isn't going to be his most memorable movie ever. But at least he's getting something. At least it's not a dud. So he chooses that, because none of the original theme movies available seem to offer a huge upside.

The man wants to watch a remake. You've demonstrated my point. None of that long-winded scenario explains a lack of creativity in Hollywood.

[LeGOATski]

5 hours ago, msw2112 said:

 

I must be an old fart too, but I agree with pretty much everything you said here.  I'm not a big fan of superhero or comic book movies, and am not big into "franchise" films.  I'm much more interested in a new story about "real" people that deal with realistic drama that people face in their lives than about a fictional character that not only never existed, but never could.  I can stretch for characters like John McClain in DieHard (the first one!) or the Jason Bourne types, as they're at least "real" people with extreme human talents.  But that's me.  My wife has become a big Dune fan.  She read the book and bought the series of books.  I've tried getting into it because the new release is supposed to be one of the best films of the year, so I'd like to establish a "base" before watching the 2024 movie,  but I'm struggling to get through the older ones first.  I watched the one from the 1980s and it was pretty bad and I fell asleep during the one from 2021.  Maybe I was just tired and I will try again.  I'm told that the books are extremely complex.

 

And back to the Buffalo Bills connection, I could see Josh Allen doing some Hollywood work after he retires.  He's charismatic, relatable and funny.  Maybe a better looking Peyton Manning?  

Did you like Civil War? Inside Out 2? Monkey Man? Night Swim? Challengers?

[FireChans]

42 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Did you like Civil War? Inside Out 2? Monkey Man? Night Swim? Challengers?

Why don’t people like my baby movies lol

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Why don’t people like my baby movies lol

If you're only watching baby movies, that might be the problem

[FireChans]

Just now, LeGOATski said:

If you're only watching baby movies, that might be the problem

Inside Out 2 is a movie for children lol

 

”how can you guys not like Cars 3???!?!?!?!?!?!?!”