More WNY Love - Rochester & Buffalo ranked in top 6 as most affordable cities in the world

[Bad Things]

Hmmm... Rochester is where I was born and raised.  I have family and friends there, so please trust me when I say that I'm proud to be from there and loved being raised there, and am not trying to crap on it.  (Although I would never move back.)

 

That said, if an area is continuously mentioned in these "most affordable" lists... is that really a good thing?  Why is it considered so affordable? 

Is it because many people would rather live somewhere else, making the "more desirable" places more unaffordable?

 

That said... Go Amerks!

Edited September 23 by Bad Things

[Sweats]

I was in Rochester for a weekend long convention a number of years back........after 8pm, i didn't see one soul walking outside at all. Like, i'm talking no one. I didn't see any cars driving, no one walking down the streets, no hobos or bums, no street ladies, nothing.

It was all hustle and bustle during the day, but when it started to get a little dark out, it's like everyone ran for cover.

I mean, i walked around at night and didn't feel like anything was dangerous or ever seemed out of place, just that the place turned into a ghost town.

 

Is it really that dead downtown Rochester at night or is there crime which drives everyone away?

[teef]

18 minutes ago, Sweats said:

I was in Rochester for a weekend long convention a number of years back........after 8pm, i didn't see one soul walking outside at all. Like, i'm talking no one. I didn't see any cars driving, no one walking down the streets, no hobos or bums, no street ladies, nothing.

It was all hustle and bustle during the day, but when it started to get a little dark out, it's like everyone ran for cover.

I mean, i walked around at night and didn't feel like anything was dangerous or ever seemed out of place, just that the place turned into a ghost town.

 

Is it really that dead downtown Rochester at night or is there crime which drives everyone away?

it depends where you were .  i break the city into 3 parts.  there's the dangerous parts that you always hear about on the news.  95% of the crime is from these areas, and you'd never have a reason to go there.  the second part is likely where you were...the immediate downtown skyline.  it's where the hyatt is, but i personally never go down there unless there's a sporting even or show.  there's not much to do in those areas that you'd walk to.  there's was a morton's steakhouse below the hyatt, and it shut down due to lack of traffic.    the third area , (the university ave area for the locals) has the better bars and restaurants...and hotels.  there's a lot to do and a lot to walk to.  there's just no reason to go downtown here so people don't.  

 

there's so much to do in the suburbs here that unless it's a specific restaurant, i tend to stay local.  we have a suburb here called fairport that has become the new going out hot spot.  numerous bar and restaurants in proximity to each other.  very clean, safe...i've heard the younger kids go there now instead of downtown.  they're trying to change it, but i'll be shocked if it happens.

[Sweats]

48 minutes ago, teef said:

it depends where you were .  i break the city into 3 parts.  there's the dangerous parts that you always hear about on the news.  95% of the crime is from these areas, and you'd never have a reason to go there.  the second part is likely where you were...the immediate downtown skyline.  it's where the hyatt is, but i personally never go down there unless there's a sporting even or show.  there's not much to do in those areas that you'd walk to.  there's was a morton's steakhouse below the hyatt, and it shut down due to lack of traffic.    the third area , (the university ave area for the locals) has the better bars and restaurants...and hotels.  there's a lot to do and a lot to walk to.  there's just no reason to go downtown here so people don't.  

 

there's so much to do in the suburbs here that unless it's a specific restaurant, i tend to stay local.  we have a suburb here called fairport that has become the new going out hot spot.  numerous bar and restaurants in proximity to each other.  very clean, safe...i've heard the younger kids go there now instead of downtown.  they're trying to change it, but i'll be shocked if it happens.

 

 

 

This was a number of years ago and it was as far as i am aware, right downtown at the convention center (i'd never be able to point it out on a map nowadays) and i think i stayed at the Hyatt......I know the hotel was right across the street from the convention center. 

I ate dinner at the hotel (it could have been Mortons at the time) and decided to go for a walk downtown scouting for bars. I saw a lot of shops, a lot of boarded up shops and no bars. There was a coffee place that was open until 8pm, then they shut down and the whole place looked like something out of "I Am Legend".

I didn't even see a cab so i could get the guy to take me to a hot spot.......nothing.

I ended up back at the hotel, just hanging out. It was boring as hell. This was before cell phones and the internet, so it's not like i could just look something up and go where the action was. I couldn't even ask anybody on the street where to go cause i didn't see anyone.

I remember asking the concierge at the hotel about anywhere in town to hang out and she said, "trust me, you're better off hanging out at the hotel".......and it was a long, boring weekend.

[teef]

25 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

This was a number of years ago and it was as far as i am aware, right downtown at the convention center (i'd never be able to point it out on a map nowadays) and i think i stayed at the Hyatt......I know the hotel was right across the street from the convention center. 

I ate dinner at the hotel (it could have been Mortons at the time) and decided to go for a walk downtown scouting for bars. I saw a lot of shops, a lot of boarded up shops and no bars. There was a coffee place that was open until 8pm, then they shut down and the whole place looked like something out of "I Am Legend".

I didn't even see a cab so i could get the guy to take me to a hot spot.......nothing.

I ended up back at the hotel, just hanging out. It was boring as hell. This was before cell phones and the internet, so it's not like i could just look something up and go where the action was. I couldn't even ask anybody on the street where to go cause i didn't see anyone.

I remember asking the concierge at the hotel about anywhere in town to hang out and she said, "trust me, you're better off hanging out at the hotel".......and it was a long, boring weekend.

that's the area.  there's just nothing to do down there.  they are trying to turn over those buildings, but i still can't find a reason i'd hang in that area.